Comments on: QBZ-03: China’s latest assault rifle http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/29/qbz-03-chinas-latest-assault-rifle/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:19:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: ivorfyzel http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/29/qbz-03-chinas-latest-assault-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-43054 ivorfyzel Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:18:40 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3939#comment-43054 The thing is that the bullpup design, while it may look cool and sleek, is essentially a pile of crap unless it's equipped with some sort of contraption to eject spent cartridges from the front, plus in most of these designs the balance is totally off. This essentially means that while you get a more compact weapon, it's often not very comfortable to shoot, and if you're a lefty you may be totally screwed as is the case with the British L85 which only ejects spent cartridges to the right. If you need a simple and rugged design that will operate reliably under the most adverse conditions, you can't go wrong with the traditional arrangement in which the pistol grip and trigger are behind the magazine. From what I can see QBZ-03 seems to be based on an older design the Chinese toyed with in the 1980's, which was in turn ultimately an update of the venerable soviet SKS carbine The thing is that the bullpup design, while it may look cool and sleek, is essentially a pile of crap unless it’s equipped with some sort of contraption to eject spent cartridges from the front, plus in most of these designs the balance is totally off. This essentially means that while you get a more compact weapon, it’s often not very comfortable to shoot, and if you’re a lefty you may be totally screwed as is the case with the British L85 which only ejects spent cartridges to the right.
If you need a simple and rugged design that will operate reliably under the most adverse conditions, you can’t go wrong with the traditional arrangement in which the pistol grip and trigger are behind the magazine.
From what I can see QBZ-03 seems to be based on an older design the Chinese toyed with in the 1980′s, which was in turn ultimately an update of the venerable soviet SKS carbine

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]]> By: ali http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/29/qbz-03-chinas-latest-assault-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-42611 ali Sun, 12 Sep 2010 07:56:43 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3939#comment-42611 this is not chinese rifle it is copycat from the AMERICAN NAVY RIFLE M-16 this is not chinese rifle it is copycat from the AMERICAN NAVY RIFLE M-16

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]]> By: Alvar http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/29/qbz-03-chinas-latest-assault-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-41543 Alvar Fri, 27 Aug 2010 19:31:46 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3939#comment-41543 Chinese remf cavalry uses QBZ-03. http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2010/08/charge-of-pla.html Chinese remf cavalry uses QBZ-03.
http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2010/08/charge-of-pla.html

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]]> By: John http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/29/qbz-03-chinas-latest-assault-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-36182 John Sat, 12 Jun 2010 04:31:05 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3939#comment-36182 The QBZ03 was a backup plan for the QBZ95 rifle. The QBZ03 was a backup plan for the QBZ95 rifle.

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]]> By: mechamaster http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/29/qbz-03-chinas-latest-assault-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-26543 mechamaster Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:54:08 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3939#comment-26543 Bullpup rifle best in CQB role and Standard rifle design in open field operation Bullpup rifle best in CQB role and Standard rifle design in open field operation

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]]> By: Spy http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/29/qbz-03-chinas-latest-assault-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-22921 Spy Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:16:25 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3939#comment-22921 Interesting picture of chinese soldiers with QBZ-03's in their hands. Only two are carrying their type-95 bullpup. http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showpost.php?p=4662140&postcount=1069 Interesting picture of chinese soldiers with QBZ-03′s in their hands. Only two are carrying their type-95 bullpup.
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showpost.php?p=4662140&postcount=1069

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]]> By: V.I.P. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/29/qbz-03-chinas-latest-assault-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-9837 V.I.P. Fri, 22 May 2009 23:40:22 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3939#comment-9837 hey guys, go to http://www.enemyforces.net/firearms/type86s.htm it the prototype of QBZ-95 and the QBZ-95 and 03 are chinese designs. the ammo is chinese design too hey guys, go to http://www.enemyforces.net/firearms/type86s.htm
it the prototype of QBZ-95

and the QBZ-95 and 03 are chinese designs. the ammo is chinese design too

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]]> By: Dave http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/29/qbz-03-chinas-latest-assault-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-6059 Dave Thu, 05 Feb 2009 20:00:49 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3939#comment-6059 Isn't the QBZ-95 a direct-impingement design? This new '03 appears to use a short stroke piston. Isn’t the QBZ-95 a direct-impingement design? This new ’03 appears to use a short stroke piston.

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]]> By: andrew http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/29/qbz-03-chinas-latest-assault-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-5972 andrew Tue, 03 Feb 2009 04:58:29 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3939#comment-5972 Ive been told that apparently the reason for the Type 03 is that the compact design of the Type 95 was disliked by many northern troops because their taller builds made shooting a bullpup uncomfortable and awkward. Thus a larger conventional design was deemed appropriate to address this issue. The Type 03 and Type 95 are being produced at the same rates. Which means China has two main assault rifles, the Type 95 for the south and Type 03 for the north. Ive been told that apparently the reason for the Type 03 is that the compact design of the Type 95 was disliked by many northern troops because their taller builds made shooting a bullpup uncomfortable and awkward. Thus a larger conventional design was deemed appropriate to address this issue.

The Type 03 and Type 95 are being produced at the same rates. Which means China has two main assault rifles, the Type 95 for the south and Type 03 for the north.

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]]> By: John http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/29/qbz-03-chinas-latest-assault-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-4995 John Thu, 15 Jan 2009 23:42:28 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3939#comment-4995 Well, at least you get a better sight radius on the QBZ-03 than the QBZ-95. More accuracy, plus faster mag reloads. Well, at least you get a better sight radius on the QBZ-03 than the QBZ-95. More accuracy, plus faster mag reloads.

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]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/29/qbz-03-chinas-latest-assault-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-4486 Steve Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:25:08 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3939#comment-4486 jdun1911, I know we disagree on the bullpup ;) But that is not what I said in the article. The Chinese are claiming that bullpups and conventional rifles are better suited in different roles. That doesn't sound true to me. Why the MPs would need a conventional rifle but the Army needs a bullpups is beyond me. I think their bullpup did not work out all that well and they are trialing the QBZ-03. jdun1911, I know we disagree on the bullpup ;) But that is not what I said in the article. The Chinese are claiming that bullpups and conventional rifles are better suited in different roles. That doesn’t sound true to me. Why the MPs would need a conventional rifle but the Army needs a bullpups is beyond me. I think their bullpup did not work out all that well and they are trialing the QBZ-03.

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]]> By: jdun1911 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/29/qbz-03-chinas-latest-assault-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-4483 jdun1911 Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:16:26 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3939#comment-4483 I have to disagree with you. The bullpup are very bad design. The negatives outweighed any positives that is gain in a bullpup design by a large margin. Every Special Force units that I know off use the conventional rifle design instead of their standard issued bullpup. I have not seen any contractors in Iraq or Afghanistan that prefer the bullpup design. http://anarchangel.blogspot.com/2005/03/why-bullpups-are-persistently-bad-idea.html I have to disagree with you.

The bullpup are very bad design. The negatives outweighed any positives that is gain in a bullpup design by a large margin.

Every Special Force units that I know off use the conventional rifle design instead of their standard issued bullpup.

I have not seen any contractors in Iraq or Afghanistan that prefer the bullpup design.

http://anarchangel.blogspot.com/2005/03/why-bullpups-are-persistently-bad-idea.html

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]]> By: Gun Blobber http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/29/qbz-03-chinas-latest-assault-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-4446 Gun Blobber Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:13:34 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3939#comment-4446 How interesting. Looks like the lovechild of an FAL and an AK. Would love to have more info on these. How interesting. Looks like the lovechild of an FAL and an AK. Would love to have more info on these.

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]]> By: Heartless Libertarian http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/29/qbz-03-chinas-latest-assault-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-4445 Heartless Libertarian Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:00:54 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3939#comment-4445 If it's just for the police, maybe it has something to do with bayonet and/or riot control. I can't imagine bayonetting or buttstroking peasants with a bullpup being all that ergonomic. Or maybe it's mostly just an export thing. Many armies (Anarachangel has a lengthy post on the subject) dislike bullpup for perfectly legitimate reasons. If it’s just for the police, maybe it has something to do with bayonet and/or riot control.

I can’t imagine bayonetting or buttstroking peasants with a bullpup being all that ergonomic.

Or maybe it’s mostly just an export thing. Many armies (Anarachangel has a lengthy post on the subject) dislike bullpup for perfectly legitimate reasons.

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]]> By: R.A.W. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/29/qbz-03-chinas-latest-assault-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-4444 R.A.W. Tue, 30 Dec 2008 08:38:23 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3939#comment-4444 I guess the Chinese army has always been a fan of rifle grenades. The type 81 had the front sight post conspicuously moved back to allow their use. I guess the Chinese army has always been a fan of rifle grenades. The type 81 had the front sight post conspicuously moved back to allow their use.

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]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/29/qbz-03-chinas-latest-assault-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-4441 Steve Mon, 29 Dec 2008 22:41:20 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3939#comment-4441 Sven, you are correct. The flash hider is also the attachment for rifle grenades. Sven, you are correct. The flash hider is also the attachment for rifle grenades.

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]]> By: Sven Ortmann http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/29/qbz-03-chinas-latest-assault-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-4440 Sven Ortmann Mon, 29 Dec 2008 22:37:56 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3939#comment-4440 The flash hider has three rings. What's the purpose? It looked like a flash hider/muzzle brake combo at first, but zoom in tells me there are merely rings around it. Maybe it's somehow related to rifle grenades? The flash hider has three rings. What’s the purpose?

It looked like a flash hider/muzzle brake combo at first, but zoom in tells me there are merely rings around it.

Maybe it’s somehow related to rifle grenades?

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