Comments on: Australian gun regulations get even worse http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/20/australian-gun-regulations-get-even-worse/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:10:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: canon eos 600d kit http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/20/australian-gun-regulations-get-even-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-77663 canon eos 600d kit Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:41:43 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3797#comment-77663 Nagyon szerettem volna küldeni egy kis szót köszönetet mondani nektek a fantasztikus pontokat írunk ezen az oldalon. Saját időigényes internetes keresést a végén beváltása rendkívül jó ötletek cseréjét az én cimborák. Én d hangot, hogy sokan a látogatók valóban rendkívül felruházva, hogy létezik egy jelentős közösség oly sok szép egyének hasznos pontokat. Úgy érzem, nagyon szerencsés, hogy használják a weboldal, és várom, hogy oly sok más szórakoztató pillanatokat az olvasást. Köszönöm ismét egy csomó dolgot. Nagyon szerettem volna küldeni egy kis szót köszönetet mondani nektek a fantasztikus pontokat írunk ezen az oldalon. Saját időigényes internetes keresést a végén beváltása rendkívül jó ötletek cseréjét az én cimborák. Én d hangot, hogy sokan a látogatók valóban rendkívül felruházva, hogy létezik egy jelentős közösség oly sok szép egyének hasznos pontokat. Úgy érzem, nagyon szerencsés, hogy használják a weboldal, és várom, hogy oly sok más szórakoztató pillanatokat az olvasást. Köszönöm ismét egy csomó dolgot.

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]]> By: shaun http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/20/australian-gun-regulations-get-even-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-73482 shaun Sat, 08 Oct 2011 16:31:35 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3797#comment-73482 hey does anyone know if the romanian par-1's can be sold here in australia, they are just a pump action centre fire, i dont see any reason why they wouldnt be, and does any one know eho can import them, cheers hey does anyone know if the romanian par-1′s can be sold here in australia, they are just a pump action centre fire, i dont see any reason why they wouldnt be, and does any one know eho can import them,

cheers

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]]> By: dan http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/20/australian-gun-regulations-get-even-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-63193 dan Thu, 19 May 2011 06:37:11 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3797#comment-63193 @siledas sorry for snappin at you before mate but i agree with you in a way guns in the wrong hands can be very dangerous and more guns in the right hands doesnt cancel that out @siledas sorry for snappin at you before mate but i agree with you in a way guns in the wrong hands can be very dangerous and more guns in the right hands doesnt cancel that out

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]]> By: Siledas http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/20/australian-gun-regulations-get-even-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-63173 Siledas Thu, 19 May 2011 01:51:42 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3797#comment-63173 @dan don't get me wrong, I think they're pretty enjoyable to use and fascinating to study, but they're designed to be used predominantly as tools of conflict. They have about as much place being in the common household as a Sherman tank. And to answer your second question, no I wouldn't call it a 'fight' per se, but I was stabbed in a random unprovoked attack last year and I'd much rather experience that again than be shot at. From what my friends and relatives in the military tell me being shot at sucks. You can run away from a guy with a knife, you can't outrun a bullet. But in the end, I guess you're right in that a gun blog probably isn't an appropriate place to debate the merits of carrying firearms. @dan don’t get me wrong, I think they’re pretty enjoyable to use and fascinating to study, but they’re designed to be used predominantly as tools of conflict. They have about as much place being in the common household as a Sherman tank.

And to answer your second question, no I wouldn’t call it a ‘fight’ per se, but I was stabbed in a random unprovoked attack last year and I’d much rather experience that again than be shot at.

From what my friends and relatives in the military tell me being shot at sucks.

You can run away from a guy with a knife, you can’t outrun a bullet.

But in the end, I guess you’re right in that a gun blog probably isn’t an appropriate place to debate the merits of carrying firearms.

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]]> By: dan http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/20/australian-gun-regulations-get-even-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-63116 dan Wed, 18 May 2011 09:14:04 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3797#comment-63116 @Silidas mate not being aggressive or anything if you dislike guns why are you on a gun forum? and have you ever been in a knife fight? they can get pretty messy mate @Silidas mate not being aggressive or anything if you dislike guns why are you on a gun forum? and have you ever been in a knife fight? they can get pretty messy mate

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]]> By: Siledas http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/20/australian-gun-regulations-get-even-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-63104 Siledas Wed, 18 May 2011 05:20:01 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3797#comment-63104 Organizations filled with religious fundamentalists and conspiracy theorists would have everyone believe that everyone has the right to defend themselves through ownership of firearms. I don't know about you but I'd rather nobody in the country have guns then everybody in the country have guns. Yeah, sure, I'd probably feel safer if I had a gun knowing that everyone around me could cap my ass at any given moment, but that in itself is self-perpetuating fear mongering. I'd prefer a home invasion turn into a knife fight over a shoot out. PK, you said you were worried about a global version of Nazi Germany or Stalinist Russia happening once all the guns are gone - the real danger of those situations wasn't lack of civilians with firearms, it was lack of civilians with the capacity to think for themselves. Conformity and unquestioned loyalty to authority was what allowed all of that to happen - because it wouldn't have mattered if every man, woman and child in Nazi occupied France had an assault rifle - they still wouldn't have fared well. Organizations filled with religious fundamentalists and conspiracy theorists would have everyone believe that everyone has the right to defend themselves through ownership of firearms. I don’t know about you but I’d rather nobody in the country have guns then everybody in the country have guns.

Yeah, sure, I’d probably feel safer if I had a gun knowing that everyone around me could cap my ass at any given moment, but that in itself is self-perpetuating fear mongering.

I’d prefer a home invasion turn into a knife fight over a shoot out.

PK, you said you were worried about a global version of Nazi Germany or Stalinist Russia happening once all the guns are gone – the real danger of those situations wasn’t lack of civilians with firearms, it was lack of civilians with the capacity to think for themselves.

Conformity and unquestioned loyalty to authority was what allowed all of that to happen – because it wouldn’t have mattered if every man, woman and child in Nazi occupied France had an assault rifle – they still wouldn’t have fared well.

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]]> By: dan http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/20/australian-gun-regulations-get-even-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-63071 dan Tue, 17 May 2011 21:47:34 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3797#comment-63071 our gun regs are pretty tight mate im getting a 7615 with a pistol grip and an aimpoint and i was dissapointed to find out: no m4 style stocks,no high capacity mags (over here high capacity= more than 10) and our customs wont let through spare mags because they are compatible with ar15s our gun regs are pretty tight mate im getting a 7615 with a pistol grip and an aimpoint and i was dissapointed to find out: no m4 style stocks,no high capacity mags (over here high capacity= more than 10) and our customs wont let through spare mags because they are compatible with ar15s

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]]> By: dan http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/20/australian-gun-regulations-get-even-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-63070 dan Tue, 17 May 2011 21:47:02 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3797#comment-63070 our gun regs are pretty tight mate im getting a 7615 with a pistol grip and an aimpoint and i was dissapointed to find out: no m4 style stocks,no high capacity mags (over here high capacity= more than 10) and our customs wont let through spare mags because they are compatible with ar15s its rediculus our gun regs are pretty tight mate im getting a 7615 with a pistol grip and an aimpoint and i was dissapointed to find out: no m4 style stocks,no high capacity mags (over here high capacity= more than 10) and our customs wont let through spare mags because they are compatible with ar15s its rediculus

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]]> By: pk http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/20/australian-gun-regulations-get-even-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-29330 pk Thu, 25 Mar 2010 07:45:38 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3797#comment-29330 There is plenty of gutless cowards in this country and most of them dont own guns ,once guns are gone ...which they will be eventually ,thanks to the do gooding U.N and Naive idiots like Rebecca Peters, who have never read a history book , you will have the pleasure of living a Global version of Nazi Germany ,Polpots regime ,Stalinist Russia There is plenty of gutless cowards in this country and most of them dont own guns ,once guns are gone …which they will be eventually ,thanks to the do gooding U.N and Naive idiots like Rebecca Peters, who have never read a history book , you will have the pleasure of living a Global version of Nazi Germany ,Polpots regime ,Stalinist Russia

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]]> By: Sadelis http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/20/australian-gun-regulations-get-even-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-18958 Sadelis Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:15:11 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3797#comment-18958 I don't have anything against guns and gun ownership, and likewise, the people that own guns aren't trigger happy maniacs, but honestly – what need is there for a weapon like this. For that matter, outside of law enforcement and civil defence, weapons hardly seem necessary. And if you're a collector or hobbyist and just enjoy using weapons recreationally there really *is no need* for you to have weapons. Yeah, it sucks, but I'd rather have a few disgruntled collectors with no guns than the situation in the U.S. where you can literally get a gun for opening a bank account. The semantics on which politicians base their laws don't seem to make sense sometimes, but that's inherent with bureaucracy. If it's a hobby, find a substitute. I love to play the drums and love the feel of a real, acoustic strike and the rich sound it provides, but if my neighbours start hurling bricks through my window and mailing me anthrax because I'm making loud noise till the early hours of the morning, I'll use an electric set with headphones in stead. It's a big difference, granted, but it's also a slippery slope. And I'd rather feel safe knowing how hard it is to get your hands on guns in our fine country. And no, guns don't kill people, but cowards with guns do. And there's plenty of gutless f**king cowards in this country. I don’t have anything against guns and gun ownership, and likewise, the people that own guns aren’t trigger happy maniacs, but honestly – what need is there for a weapon like this. For that matter, outside of law enforcement and civil defence, weapons hardly seem necessary.

And if you’re a collector or hobbyist and just enjoy using weapons recreationally there really *is no need* for you to have weapons. Yeah, it sucks, but I’d rather have a few disgruntled collectors with no guns than the situation in the U.S. where you can literally get a gun for opening a bank account.

The semantics on which politicians base their laws don’t seem to make sense sometimes, but that’s inherent with bureaucracy. If it’s a hobby, find a substitute. I love to play the drums and love the feel of a real, acoustic strike and the rich sound it provides, but if my neighbours start hurling bricks through my window and mailing me anthrax because I’m making loud noise till the early hours of the morning, I’ll use an electric set with headphones in stead.

It’s a big difference, granted, but it’s also a slippery slope. And I’d rather feel safe knowing how hard it is to get your hands on guns in our fine country.

And no, guns don’t kill people, but cowards with guns do. And there’s plenty of gutless f**king cowards in this country.

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]]> By: Pedro http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/20/australian-gun-regulations-get-even-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-9300 Pedro Thu, 07 May 2009 12:24:35 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3797#comment-9300 There are more guns living in plastic pipes in the ground, particularly in Queensland, than you can shake a stick at. A well maintained gun will last for over a hundred years. Good luck trying to disarm all Aussies. Sharks will have head mounted lasers via evolution before the last Australian firearm is seized by the government fascists. There are more guns living in plastic pipes in the ground, particularly in Queensland, than you can shake a stick at.

A well maintained gun will last for over a hundred years.

Good luck trying to disarm all Aussies. Sharks will have head mounted lasers via evolution before the last Australian firearm is seized by the government fascists.

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]]> By: Ben http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/20/australian-gun-regulations-get-even-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-4234 Ben Sun, 21 Dec 2008 13:46:32 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3797#comment-4234 Yea it sucks you can buy M4 type stocks from survivalarms.com.au but they are non adjustable and they don’t fit on the 7600 too well. I’m guessing the government will probably ban them next. Yea it sucks you can buy M4 type stocks from survivalarms.com.au but they are non adjustable and they don’t fit on the 7600 too well. I’m guessing the government will probably ban them next.

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]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/20/australian-gun-regulations-get-even-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-4232 Steve Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:58:15 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3797#comment-4232 Ben, they already ban M4 style stocks?!?! Crazy. Ben, they already ban M4 style stocks?!?! Crazy.

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]]> By: Ben http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/20/australian-gun-regulations-get-even-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-4231 Ben Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:40:24 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3797#comment-4231 I do not think they can ban the Remington 7600 series in Australia. In Queensland there are some restrictions on the configuration of the 7615 and the 7600. You can't have a collapsible stocks or ajustable stocks like the M4. There is a Magazine limited of up to 10 rounds as well. I’m sure they won't ban the 7600 because there are so many out there at the moment I don’t think they will be able to afford to buy them all back. I'm not sure about if they will stop the import of them just yet. I do not think they can ban the Remington 7600 series in Australia. In Queensland there are some restrictions on the configuration of the 7615 and the 7600. You can’t have a collapsible stocks or ajustable stocks like the M4. There is a Magazine limited of up to 10 rounds as well.

I’m sure they won’t ban the 7600 because there are so many out there at the moment I don’t think they will be able to afford to buy them all back. I’m not sure about if they will stop the import of them just yet.

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]]> By: Langy http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/20/australian-gun-regulations-get-even-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-4222 Langy Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:11:56 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3797#comment-4222 Meh, Paintball markers that have any resemblance to military arms have been labeled as "Restricted Items" (Governments double speak for banned) such as the Tippmann A5 and X7. What you have said is pretty much correct, the only shotguns we can possess on a Class B Firearms license (The highest longarm license they will allow us peasants to have) are breach loading double barrel and single shot models, funnily enough they banned pump actions but we can still own lever action shotguns such as the Winchester 1887, if you can find one. Rifles, we are pretty much limited to Bolt, Lever, Single Shot and Pump action which is what they're apparently trying to ban here, I have lots of hunting friends who use there pump action rifles for deer. Granted they are only Remington's and Brownings and aren't scary looking. Meh, Paintball markers that have any resemblance to military arms have been labeled as “Restricted Items” (Governments double speak for banned) such as the Tippmann A5 and X7.

What you have said is pretty much correct, the only shotguns we can possess on a Class B Firearms license (The highest longarm license they will allow us peasants to have) are breach loading double barrel and single shot models, funnily enough they banned pump actions but we can still own lever action shotguns such as the Winchester 1887, if you can find one.

Rifles, we are pretty much limited to Bolt, Lever, Single Shot and Pump action which is what they’re apparently trying to ban here, I have lots of hunting friends who use there pump action rifles for deer. Granted they are only Remington’s and Brownings and aren’t scary looking.

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