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	<title>Comments on: New TangoDown ARC AR-15 Magazine</title>
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		<title>By: ACT</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/10/new-tangodown-arc-ar-15-magazine/#comment-7366</link>
		<dc:creator>ACT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just finished testing on 15 mags I supply magazines to people who use them for a living, and have to say, SS mags, P mags, colt mags, can&#039;t compare to the tango down arc mag. the 20&#039; drop loaded on the feed lips and the run over with the expedition sold me. Those who bitch about $10 hopefully respect the fact that regardless of equipment cost it should not fail. I will say the arc mags were prototypes and production pieces are coming, if they perform like the prototypes this is the best mag on the market. size is a slight issue but I believe new pouches are being offered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just finished testing on 15 mags I supply magazines to people who use them for a living, and have to say, SS mags, P mags, colt mags, can&#8217;t compare to the tango down arc mag. the 20&#8242; drop loaded on the feed lips and the run over with the expedition sold me. Those who bitch about $10 hopefully respect the fact that regardless of equipment cost it should not fail. I will say the arc mags were prototypes and production pieces are coming, if they perform like the prototypes this is the best mag on the market. size is a slight issue but I believe new pouches are being offered.</p>
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		<title>By: nature223</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/10/new-tangodown-arc-ar-15-magazine/#comment-6265</link>
		<dc:creator>nature223</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sure..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sure..</p>
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		<title>By: nature223</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/10/new-tangodown-arc-ar-15-magazine/#comment-6263</link>
		<dc:creator>nature223</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pmags..crap??
a DISPOSABLE MAGAZINE??
are you on crack??
yeah,it has postive no over insertion feature...
yeah,it seals...
it NEEDS?!?!? new mag pouches,when there is umpteenkaafrickingazillion 
mag pouches the PMAGS already fit,dimensionally there are the SAME,as GI.
it NEEDS?!?!?! a new handling technology..obvious HEAVY TAP RACK BOOM technique,what if your injured and your mag hand is fragged?
great features do not negate the PMAGS obvious strengths and ability for loading till the cows come home with the added lip protector/dust cover.
drive over that magazine,do LINE LOCKS on it,put the STEERING axle on it,SHOOT IT WITH AN AK-47 ROUND,AND CUT THE MAG SPRING AND HAVE IT PROJECT UPWARD..THROUGH THE FEEDLIPS,AND THEN STILL FUNCTION PERFECTLY.
try that with the tango...then load and fire it for positive function...bet it WONT,you cannot service it,ah chuck it...it&#039;s disposable
I&#039;ve seen pmags positively tortured...shot,driven over,and their CHEAPER..
no need for the tango downs unless your an over budgeted gov franchise,with throw away needs...
go MAGPUL..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pmags..crap??<br />
a DISPOSABLE MAGAZINE??<br />
are you on crack??<br />
yeah,it has postive no over insertion feature&#8230;<br />
yeah,it seals&#8230;<br />
it NEEDS?!?!? new mag pouches,when there is umpteenkaafrickingazillion<br />
mag pouches the PMAGS already fit,dimensionally there are the SAME,as GI.<br />
it NEEDS?!?!?! a new handling technology..obvious HEAVY TAP RACK BOOM technique,what if your injured and your mag hand is fragged?<br />
great features do not negate the PMAGS obvious strengths and ability for loading till the cows come home with the added lip protector/dust cover.<br />
drive over that magazine,do LINE LOCKS on it,put the STEERING axle on it,SHOOT IT WITH AN AK-47 ROUND,AND CUT THE MAG SPRING AND HAVE IT PROJECT UPWARD..THROUGH THE FEEDLIPS,AND THEN STILL FUNCTION PERFECTLY.<br />
try that with the tango&#8230;then load and fire it for positive function&#8230;bet it WONT,you cannot service it,ah chuck it&#8230;it&#8217;s disposable<br />
I&#8217;ve seen pmags positively tortured&#8230;shot,driven over,and their CHEAPER..<br />
no need for the tango downs unless your an over budgeted gov franchise,with throw away needs&#8230;<br />
go MAGPUL..</p>
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		<title>By: Pilot</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/10/new-tangodown-arc-ar-15-magazine/#comment-5104</link>
		<dc:creator>Pilot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who has used PMAGS for a extended periord of time, knows what a piece of crap they are. I have shot the new Tango Mag and it has some great features.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who has used PMAGS for a extended periord of time, knows what a piece of crap they are. I have shot the new Tango Mag and it has some great features.</p>
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		<title>By: Bart</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/10/new-tangodown-arc-ar-15-magazine/#comment-4906</link>
		<dc:creator>Bart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had lunch with SMGLee yesterday and handled one of the new mags.

- The spring will go 200,000 cycles! So, it will never need to be replaced. 
- The spring has a special coating for rust, and friction.
- They changed the pickup point of the spring to the follower plate to address the balance point and eliminate tipping for the follower plate/binding.
- The &#039;serrations&#039; and bottom lip of the magazine make a very good gripping surface(s).  
- The mag is very strong.  
- The bottom piece will also be available in a smoked translucent polymer.  
- The top piece will stay black because it is a different polymer that is much stronger than the &#039;regular&#039; polymer that can be colored.
- The follower will not bind up even when you only push down on only the very forward or rear tip of it.  
- One thing to note is that the Civilian Mags will not have the big lip where the two pieces join together.  The lip is for the gasket and is only for the Military, who is going to get new mag pouches (probably polymer) that when the mag is in the new &#039;pouch&#039; it will seal out dirt, sand, water just like when it is seated in the rifle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had lunch with SMGLee yesterday and handled one of the new mags.</p>
<p>- The spring will go 200,000 cycles! So, it will never need to be replaced.<br />
- The spring has a special coating for rust, and friction.<br />
- They changed the pickup point of the spring to the follower plate to address the balance point and eliminate tipping for the follower plate/binding.<br />
- The &#8217;serrations&#8217; and bottom lip of the magazine make a very good gripping surface(s).<br />
- The mag is very strong.<br />
- The bottom piece will also be available in a smoked translucent polymer.<br />
- The top piece will stay black because it is a different polymer that is much stronger than the &#8216;regular&#8217; polymer that can be colored.<br />
- The follower will not bind up even when you only push down on only the very forward or rear tip of it.<br />
- One thing to note is that the Civilian Mags will not have the big lip where the two pieces join together.  The lip is for the gasket and is only for the Military, who is going to get new mag pouches (probably polymer) that when the mag is in the new &#8216;pouch&#8217; it will seal out dirt, sand, water just like when it is seated in the rifle.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/10/new-tangodown-arc-ar-15-magazine/#comment-4043</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tarkan, I agree. SMGLee is a lengend, an awesome guy. They plan on offering transparent magazines. The lower part will be transparent and the upper part opaque. This gives greater strength that 100% transparent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tarkan, I agree. SMGLee is a lengend, an awesome guy. They plan on offering transparent magazines. The lower part will be transparent and the upper part opaque. This gives greater strength that 100% transparent.</p>
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		<title>By: tarkan</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/10/new-tangodown-arc-ar-15-magazine/#comment-4042</link>
		<dc:creator>tarkan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I admire SMGLee,go to military photos net and search smgLee,he covers so much shot shows,my question is why not transparent magazines?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admire SMGLee,go to military photos net and search smgLee,he covers so much shot shows,my question is why not transparent magazines?</p>
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		<title>By: jdun1911</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/10/new-tangodown-arc-ar-15-magazine/#comment-4007</link>
		<dc:creator>jdun1911</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 00:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I understand on the AR15 thread, the magazine that is shown will not be available to the general public. Unlike the military the civilian version does not require special double mag pouch. The civilian mags are flushed. 

Stick with the standard GI mag/Pmag/Lancer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I understand on the AR15 thread, the magazine that is shown will not be available to the general public. Unlike the military the civilian version does not require special double mag pouch. The civilian mags are flushed. </p>
<p>Stick with the standard GI mag/Pmag/Lancer.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/10/new-tangodown-arc-ar-15-magazine/#comment-3996</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jdun1911, thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jdun1911, thanks</p>
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		<title>By: jdun1911</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/10/new-tangodown-arc-ar-15-magazine/#comment-3995</link>
		<dc:creator>jdun1911</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might want to check the AR15 thread. 

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&amp;f=17&amp;t=408793&amp;page=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might want to check the AR15 thread. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&amp;f=17&amp;t=408793&amp;page=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&amp;f=17&amp;t=408793&amp;page=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: jdun1911</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/10/new-tangodown-arc-ar-15-magazine/#comment-3980</link>
		<dc:creator>jdun1911</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There no hole on the bottom of the floor plate so if you got sand or water inside the mag, you&#039;re screw. There are reasons why mags have holes on the bottom of the floor plate.

Another issue I think that will come up is it will be harder to get the mag seated/remove on a dual mag pouch. It is the only complaint I have with the L5 Lancer. Like the Tango the L5 Lancer rib is too far out to seat/remove it smoothly from your gear.

I think you&#039;re better of with GI/Magpul/Lancer mag then this design. It will get hype of course, a must have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There no hole on the bottom of the floor plate so if you got sand or water inside the mag, you&#8217;re screw. There are reasons why mags have holes on the bottom of the floor plate.</p>
<p>Another issue I think that will come up is it will be harder to get the mag seated/remove on a dual mag pouch. It is the only complaint I have with the L5 Lancer. Like the Tango the L5 Lancer rib is too far out to seat/remove it smoothly from your gear.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re better of with GI/Magpul/Lancer mag then this design. It will get hype of course, a must have.</p>
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		<title>By: Vote For David</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/10/new-tangodown-arc-ar-15-magazine/#comment-3974</link>
		<dc:creator>Vote For David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So... they give the civilian market (that also shoots in dirty/sandy conditions sometimes) a non-sealed version?  You get to pay full price for a magazine that is disposable, vs. rebuildable?  Sign me right up!

For some PMAGs, that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230; they give the civilian market (that also shoots in dirty/sandy conditions sometimes) a non-sealed version?  You get to pay full price for a magazine that is disposable, vs. rebuildable?  Sign me right up!</p>
<p>For some PMAGs, that is.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Nack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Nack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so what they&#039;re saying is that if i wanted to pay another $10 for a P-Mag, i now have that option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so what they&#8217;re saying is that if i wanted to pay another $10 for a P-Mag, i now have that option.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/12/10/new-tangodown-arc-ar-15-magazine/#comment-3971</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 13:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t see this taking off. I mean aside from the gasket which is of questionable advantage anyway, what can it do that the Pmag can&#039;t do at $10 less?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t see this taking off. I mean aside from the gasket which is of questionable advantage anyway, what can it do that the Pmag can&#8217;t do at $10 less?</p>
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