Comments on: Finnish military suspects Russia copied thier camo http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/11/17/finnish-military-suspects-russia-copied-thier-camo/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:24:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: John http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/11/17/finnish-military-suspects-russia-copied-thier-camo/comment-page-1/#comment-76400 John Sat, 05 Nov 2011 00:44:22 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3267#comment-76400 http://www.kamouflage.net/resource/jpg/sample/00261.jpg That's a picture of the Russian camouflage, the pixelated one on this page is irrelevant! http://www.kamouflage.net/resource/jpg/sample/00261.jpg

That’s a picture of the Russian camouflage, the pixelated one on this page is irrelevant!

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]]> By: CJS3 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/11/17/finnish-military-suspects-russia-copied-thier-camo/comment-page-1/#comment-51364 CJS3 Fri, 24 Dec 2010 00:14:07 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3267#comment-51364 So What? So What?

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]]> By: Milgeek http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/11/17/finnish-military-suspects-russia-copied-thier-camo/comment-page-1/#comment-50956 Milgeek Mon, 20 Dec 2010 07:12:48 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3267#comment-50956 The Russians have been camo mad since the Soviet era and have copied practically everyones' patterns! The have copied US M81 Woodland (Les), British DPM (Smog), German Flecktarn, Danish M84 Flecktarn (Flecktar-D) and even one based on Nazi SS Oakleaf (Partizan)...To mention just a few... BUT, the Russians have also created a host of other home grown designs, including the most recognized Flora and beautiful Russian Tigerstripe, and so on and so forth. Every Russian special unit (Spetsnaz) seems to want it's own destinctive design to promote it's own 'elite' status and to make matters worse they don't seem to mind if they 'mix and match'. I have seen photos of Russian soldiers wearing no less than three different types of camo pattern in the one 'uniform'! The bottom line is this, when you create that many camo patterns, and by thier very nature, there is going to be similarities with other designs. I happen to agree with others that the similarity with the Finnish design is fleeting at best though. The Russians have been camo mad since the Soviet era and have copied practically everyones’ patterns!

The have copied US M81 Woodland (Les), British DPM (Smog), German Flecktarn, Danish M84 Flecktarn (Flecktar-D) and even one based on Nazi SS Oakleaf (Partizan)…To mention just a few…

BUT, the Russians have also created a host of other home grown designs, including the most recognized Flora and beautiful Russian Tigerstripe, and so on and so forth.

Every Russian special unit (Spetsnaz) seems to want it’s own destinctive design to promote it’s own ‘elite’ status and to make matters worse they don’t seem to mind if they ‘mix and match’. I have seen photos of Russian soldiers wearing no less than three different types of camo pattern in the one ‘uniform’!

The bottom line is this, when you create that many camo patterns, and by thier very nature, there is going to be similarities with other designs. I happen to agree with others that the similarity with the Finnish design is fleeting at best though.

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]]> By: Jalopeura http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/11/17/finnish-military-suspects-russia-copied-thier-camo/comment-page-1/#comment-3692 Jalopeura Sun, 30 Nov 2008 01:07:25 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3267#comment-3692 Found a pretty good picture of M05 http://www.mil.fi/maavoimat/joukot/kaipr/m05_2.jpg Found a pretty good picture of M05

http://www.mil.fi/maavoimat/joukot/kaipr/m05_2.jpg

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]]> By: Guy J. Sagi http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/11/17/finnish-military-suspects-russia-copied-thier-camo/comment-page-1/#comment-3519 Guy J. Sagi Wed, 19 Nov 2008 02:00:25 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3267#comment-3519 Both camos are so effective, they're a blur!!! Can't tell one from another. It could be a Russian coming my way, but then it's so close to a Finn that I think it's best to wait for the spring spawn so I can see which one's hightailing it upstream for the spawn. Both camos are so effective, they’re a blur!!! Can’t tell one from another.

It could be a Russian coming my way, but then it’s so close to a Finn that I think it’s best to wait for the spring spawn so I can see which one’s hightailing it upstream for the spawn.

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]]> By: Nooky http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/11/17/finnish-military-suspects-russia-copied-thier-camo/comment-page-1/#comment-3510 Nooky Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:56:57 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3267#comment-3510 The fins shouldn't copy the swiss camo http://uppix.net/5/3/f/4621388fbc73f159b854ce428ce36.jpg The fins shouldn’t copy the swiss camo

http://uppix.net/5/3/f/4621388fbc73f159b854ce428ce36.jpg

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]]> By: BallisticBaggins http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/11/17/finnish-military-suspects-russia-copied-thier-camo/comment-page-1/#comment-3509 BallisticBaggins Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:23:56 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3267#comment-3509 It's a different camo. There are some sightings of some russians wearing a similar camo to the M05 during the war of Georgia. I'll try to link pics if I can. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3201/2753322156_6694ae60b6.jpg?v=0 Man on the left is wearing a camo very similar to the M05. http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c245/MikkoKauppila/Ten_M61_A2_1.jpg Pic of a possible russian made uniform with the M05 pattern. Even if the pics don't prove that the Russian military is copying the pattern, they still give a good reason to investigate. It’s a different camo. There are some sightings of some russians wearing a similar camo to the M05 during the war of Georgia. I’ll try to link pics if I can.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3201/2753322156_6694ae60b6.jpg?v=0
Man on the left is wearing a camo very similar to the M05.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c245/MikkoKauppila/Ten_M61_A2_1.jpg
Pic of a possible russian made uniform with the M05 pattern.

Even if the pics don’t prove that the Russian military is copying the pattern, they still give a good reason to investigate.

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]]> By: gummywormz http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/11/17/finnish-military-suspects-russia-copied-thier-camo/comment-page-1/#comment-3501 gummywormz Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:34:06 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3267#comment-3501 looks different to me looks different to me

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]]> By: Okami-San http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/11/17/finnish-military-suspects-russia-copied-thier-camo/comment-page-1/#comment-3496 Okami-San Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:18:30 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3267#comment-3496 how does the finnish pattern even seem similar to the russian, minus the pixilation?it seems to me as if the russian would be better for a light foliage backdrop, whereas the finnish is more of a dense woodland camo... do people have nothing better to do but sue over remotely similar camo? what next, the army suing the marines for copying their acu camo? how does the finnish pattern even seem similar to the russian, minus the pixilation?it seems to me as if the russian would be better for a light foliage backdrop, whereas the finnish is more of a dense woodland camo… do people have nothing better to do but sue over remotely similar camo? what next, the army suing the marines for copying their acu camo?

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]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/11/17/finnish-military-suspects-russia-copied-thier-camo/comment-page-1/#comment-3495 Steve Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:15:17 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3267#comment-3495 I also could not see the similarity.Maybe they are referring to another new camo design or maybe the similarity is more obvious in a "zoomed out" photo of the M05. I also could not see the similarity.Maybe they are referring to another new camo design or maybe the similarity is more obvious in a “zoomed out” photo of the M05.

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]]> By: thebronze http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/11/17/finnish-military-suspects-russia-copied-thier-camo/comment-page-1/#comment-3493 thebronze Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:34:05 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3267#comment-3493 I agree. I don't see the similarity, except that they're both pixelated. Everyone's going pixelated now. The Fins are being stupid. I agree. I don’t see the similarity, except that they’re both pixelated. Everyone’s going pixelated now. The Fins are being stupid.

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]]> By: Nomen Nescio http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/11/17/finnish-military-suspects-russia-copied-thier-camo/comment-page-1/#comment-3491 Nomen Nescio Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:00:50 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=3267#comment-3491 ok, call me blind, but i don't see the similarity. they're both four-color pixelated digi-cams, but what else do they have in common? the russian one looks much more broken up and fragmented, the finnish one has much more homogenous, unbroken color areas. the russian one uses two colors predominantly with the other two having much less coverage, the finnish one seems to use all four colors fairly evenly. the russian one actually resembles U.S. ACUs more than the finnish pattern, to me. ok, call me blind, but i don’t see the similarity. they’re both four-color pixelated digi-cams, but what else do they have in common? the russian one looks much more broken up and fragmented, the finnish one has much more homogenous, unbroken color areas. the russian one uses two colors predominantly with the other two having much less coverage, the finnish one seems to use all four colors fairly evenly.

the russian one actually resembles U.S. ACUs more than the finnish pattern, to me.

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