Finnish military suspects Russia copied thier camo

The Fins are not happy with the Russians. DefenceTalk.com reports:

The Finnish Defence Forces are investigating what they suspect is unauthorised copying of the M05 camouflage pattern by the Russian military, Finnish business daily Taloussanomat reported on its website Tuesday.

The M05 battledress pattern is a protected design.

According to Taloussanomat, a pattern bearing striking resemblance to the M05 had been seen in Russia’s Yeger battledress in news footage.

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Finnish M05 woodland pattern (photo from Wikipedia)

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New Russian Camo that was on display
earlier this year (2008) (Photo from
MP.net)

UPDATE:

BallisticBaggins in the comments think this may be the camo the Fins are referring to (see comments below for more information):

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  1. Johnwrote on November 05th, 2011 at 12:44 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    http://www.kamouflage.net/resource/jpg/sample/00261.jpg

    That’s a picture of the Russian camouflage, the pixelated one on this page is irrelevant!

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  2. CJS3wrote on December 24th, 2010 at 12:14 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    So What?

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  3. Milgeekwrote on December 20th, 2010 at 7:12 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    The Russians have been camo mad since the Soviet era and have copied practically everyones’ patterns!

    The have copied US M81 Woodland (Les), British DPM (Smog), German Flecktarn, Danish M84 Flecktarn (Flecktar-D) and even one based on Nazi SS Oakleaf (Partizan)…To mention just a few…

    BUT, the Russians have also created a host of other home grown designs, including the most recognized Flora and beautiful Russian Tigerstripe, and so on and so forth.

    Every Russian special unit (Spetsnaz) seems to want it’s own destinctive design to promote it’s own ‘elite’ status and to make matters worse they don’t seem to mind if they ‘mix and match’. I have seen photos of Russian soldiers wearing no less than three different types of camo pattern in the one ‘uniform’!

    The bottom line is this, when you create that many camo patterns, and by thier very nature, there is going to be similarities with other designs. I happen to agree with others that the similarity with the Finnish design is fleeting at best though.

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  4. Jalopeurawrote on November 30th, 2008 at 2:07 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Found a pretty good picture of M05

    http://www.mil.fi/maavoimat/joukot/kaipr/m05_2.jpg

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  5. Guy J. Sagiwrote on November 19th, 2008 at 3:00 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Both camos are so effective, they’re a blur!!! Can’t tell one from another.

    It could be a Russian coming my way, but then it’s so close to a Finn that I think it’s best to wait for the spring spawn so I can see which one’s hightailing it upstream for the spawn.

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  6. Nookywrote on November 19th, 2008 at 8:56 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    The fins shouldn’t copy the swiss camo

    http://uppix.net/5/3/f/4621388fbc73f159b854ce428ce36.jpg

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  7. BallisticBagginswrote on November 19th, 2008 at 8:23 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    It’s a different camo. There are some sightings of some russians wearing a similar camo to the M05 during the war of Georgia. I’ll try to link pics if I can.

    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3201/2753322156_6694ae60b6.jpg?v=0
    Man on the left is wearing a camo very similar to the M05.

    http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c245/MikkoKauppila/Ten_M61_A2_1.jpg
    Pic of a possible russian made uniform with the M05 pattern.

    Even if the pics don’t prove that the Russian military is copying the pattern, they still give a good reason to investigate.

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  8. gummywormzwrote on November 18th, 2008 at 1:34 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    looks different to me

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  9. Okami-Sanwrote on November 18th, 2008 at 12:18 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    how does the finnish pattern even seem similar to the russian, minus the pixilation?it seems to me as if the russian would be better for a light foliage backdrop, whereas the finnish is more of a dense woodland camo… do people have nothing better to do but sue over remotely similar camo? what next, the army suing the marines for copying their acu camo?

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  10. Stevewrote on November 18th, 2008 at 12:15 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I also could not see the similarity.Maybe they are referring to another new camo design or maybe the similarity is more obvious in a “zoomed out” photo of the M05.

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  11. thebronzewrote on November 18th, 2008 at 10:34 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I agree. I don’t see the similarity, except that they’re both pixelated. Everyone’s going pixelated now. The Fins are being stupid.

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  12. Nomen Nesciowrote on November 18th, 2008 at 5:00 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    ok, call me blind, but i don’t see the similarity. they’re both four-color pixelated digi-cams, but what else do they have in common? the russian one looks much more broken up and fragmented, the finnish one has much more homogenous, unbroken color areas. the russian one uses two colors predominantly with the other two having much less coverage, the finnish one seems to use all four colors fairly evenly.

    the russian one actually resembles U.S. ACUs more than the finnish pattern, to me.

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  1. Nomen Nesciowrote on November 18th, 2008 at 5:00 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    ok, call me blind, but i don’t see the similarity. they’re both four-color pixelated digi-cams, but what else do they have in common? the russian one looks much more broken up and fragmented, the finnish one has much more homogenous, unbroken color areas. the russian one uses two colors predominantly with the other two having much less coverage, the finnish one seems to use all four colors fairly evenly.

    the russian one actually resembles U.S. ACUs more than the finnish pattern, to me.

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  2. gummywormzwrote on November 18th, 2008 at 1:34 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    looks different to me

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  3. BallisticBagginswrote on November 19th, 2008 at 8:23 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    It’s a different camo. There are some sightings of some russians wearing a similar camo to the M05 during the war of Georgia. I’ll try to link pics if I can.

    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3201/2753322156_6694ae60b6.jpg?v=0
    Man on the left is wearing a camo very similar to the M05.

    http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c245/MikkoKauppila/Ten_M61_A2_1.jpg
    Pic of a possible russian made uniform with the M05 pattern.

    Even if the pics don’t prove that the Russian military is copying the pattern, they still give a good reason to investigate.

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  4. thebronzewrote on November 18th, 2008 at 10:34 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I agree. I don’t see the similarity, except that they’re both pixelated. Everyone’s going pixelated now. The Fins are being stupid.

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  5. Milgeekwrote on December 20th, 2010 at 7:12 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    The Russians have been camo mad since the Soviet era and have copied practically everyones’ patterns!

    The have copied US M81 Woodland (Les), British DPM (Smog), German Flecktarn, Danish M84 Flecktarn (Flecktar-D) and even one based on Nazi SS Oakleaf (Partizan)…To mention just a few…

    BUT, the Russians have also created a host of other home grown designs, including the most recognized Flora and beautiful Russian Tigerstripe, and so on and so forth.

    Every Russian special unit (Spetsnaz) seems to want it’s own destinctive design to promote it’s own ‘elite’ status and to make matters worse they don’t seem to mind if they ‘mix and match’. I have seen photos of Russian soldiers wearing no less than three different types of camo pattern in the one ‘uniform’!

    The bottom line is this, when you create that many camo patterns, and by thier very nature, there is going to be similarities with other designs. I happen to agree with others that the similarity with the Finnish design is fleeting at best though.

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  6. CJS3wrote on December 24th, 2010 at 12:14 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    So What?

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  7. Jalopeurawrote on November 30th, 2008 at 2:07 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Found a pretty good picture of M05

    http://www.mil.fi/maavoimat/joukot/kaipr/m05_2.jpg

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  8. Johnwrote on November 05th, 2011 at 12:44 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    http://www.kamouflage.net/resource/jpg/sample/00261.jpg

    That’s a picture of the Russian camouflage, the pixelated one on this page is irrelevant!

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  9. Guy J. Sagiwrote on November 19th, 2008 at 3:00 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Both camos are so effective, they’re a blur!!! Can’t tell one from another.

    It could be a Russian coming my way, but then it’s so close to a Finn that I think it’s best to wait for the spring spawn so I can see which one’s hightailing it upstream for the spawn.

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  10. Stevewrote on November 18th, 2008 at 12:15 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I also could not see the similarity.Maybe they are referring to another new camo design or maybe the similarity is more obvious in a “zoomed out” photo of the M05.

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  11. Nookywrote on November 19th, 2008 at 8:56 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    The fins shouldn’t copy the swiss camo

    http://uppix.net/5/3/f/4621388fbc73f159b854ce428ce36.jpg

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  12. Okami-Sanwrote on November 18th, 2008 at 12:18 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    how does the finnish pattern even seem similar to the russian, minus the pixilation?it seems to me as if the russian would be better for a light foliage backdrop, whereas the finnish is more of a dense woodland camo… do people have nothing better to do but sue over remotely similar camo? what next, the army suing the marines for copying their acu camo?

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