Comments on: Bullpup M14: “M4 Size, M14 power” http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/09/22/bullpup-m14-m4-size-m14-power/ Firearms not Politics Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:18:29 +1300 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: PVT 002 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/09/22/bullpup-m14-m4-size-m14-power/#comment-3918 PVT 002 Sun, 07 Dec 2008 07:53:02 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2666#comment-3918 Gentlemen, I must write about the bull pup ( tilized recently and accurately) as I have used the AK-47 (7 & 5 mm versions), (M-16 field & M-4 salt water versions), (old 45 ca., 9mml, & civilian .38, .357 & 0.40 cal variants), 9 mm UZI, great in the desert and urban all around because from a recreational and probably a known close in/tough environmental adversarial position it is hands down the most manageable weapon. But we must consider the mission. Is it close quarters, AID then a .22 cal shaved or fiberglass round is best. Are we talking a FOF being 3-600M then the M-16/M-4. 2 round burst. In theater op use the adversaries weapon of choice the AK-47/7MM round, remember ~12 inch drop unless close in. Do you want to mimic the regional gendarmes, use their weapon of choice. We are only talking firearms here. you will be lucky if part of a two man team, but trust only your own. MKD67 & 97retired!!!!! I now play Golf. Gentlemen,
I must write about the bull pup ( tilized recently and accurately) as I have used the AK-47 (7 & 5 mm versions), (M-16 field & M-4 salt water versions), (old 45 ca., 9mml, & civilian .38, .357 & 0.40 cal variants), 9 mm UZI, great in the desert and urban all around because from a recreational and probably a known close in/tough environmental adversarial position it is hands down the most manageable weapon. But we must consider the mission. Is it close quarters, AID then a .22 cal shaved or fiberglass round is best. Are we talking a FOF being 3-600M then the M-16/M-4. 2 round burst. In theater op use the adversaries weapon of choice the AK-47/7MM round, remember ~12 inch drop unless close in. Do you want to mimic the regional gendarmes, use their weapon of choice. We are only talking firearms here. you will be lucky if part of a two man team, but trust only your own.
MKD67 & 97retired!!!!!
I now play Golf.

]]> By: Jcamelo http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/09/22/bullpup-m14-m4-size-m14-power/#comment-3190 Jcamelo Sat, 25 Oct 2008 03:36:32 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2666#comment-3190 I am not a big fan of the bullpup model guns. If they explode you are not just unfortunate, you are also dead. Anyway there has already been a bullpup M14 it was called an AWC but not from SRSS I am not a big fan of the bullpup model guns. If they explode you are not just unfortunate, you are also dead. Anyway there has already been a bullpup M14 it was called an AWC but not from SRSS

]]> By: jdun http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/09/22/bullpup-m14-m4-size-m14-power/#comment-2907 jdun Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:08:51 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2666#comment-2907 I'm sure they had some few KB with those bullpups over they years. I have never seen a gun that is KB! proof. British, French, and Australians Special Force units use AR and not their standard issued bullpup. Bullpup aren't good design. The negatives out weight the positives by a lot. I’m sure they had some few KB with those bullpups over they years. I have never seen a gun that is KB! proof.

British, French, and Australians Special Force units use AR and not their standard issued bullpup.

Bullpup aren’t good design. The negatives out weight the positives by a lot.

]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/09/22/bullpup-m14-m4-size-m14-power/#comment-2900 Steve Tue, 23 Sep 2008 06:44:08 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2666#comment-2900 jdun1911, I don't think it would be impossible to design a bullpup that would explode sidewards away from the shooter. To name a few the British, Australians and New Zealanders have been using bullpups for quite some time without problems. jdun1911, I don’t think it would be impossible to design a bullpup that would explode sidewards away from the shooter. To name a few the British, Australians and New Zealanders have been using bullpups for quite some time without problems.

]]> By: jdun1911 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/09/22/bullpup-m14-m4-size-m14-power/#comment-2898 jdun1911 Tue, 23 Sep 2008 01:34:31 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2666#comment-2898 God forbid if a Bullpup blows up in your face. The US military will never adopt the bullpup design for that reason alone. Here is a M16A2 that blew up. The soldier escaped injuries. If this was a bullpup he wouldn't have a face left. http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=395395&page=1 God forbid if a Bullpup blows up in your face. The US military will never adopt the bullpup design for that reason alone.

Here is a M16A2 that blew up. The soldier escaped injuries. If this was a bullpup he wouldn’t have a face left.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=395395&page=1

]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/09/22/bullpup-m14-m4-size-m14-power/#comment-2891 Steve Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:47:01 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2666#comment-2891 Daniel, thanks for the info. Your input is always appreciated. I have updated the post. Daniel, thanks for the info. Your input is always appreciated. I have updated the post.

]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/09/22/bullpup-m14-m4-size-m14-power/#comment-2890 Steve Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:45:09 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2666#comment-2890 Ahab, I am not sure. Ahab, I am not sure.

]]> By: 22lr http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/09/22/bullpup-m14-m4-size-m14-power/#comment-2889 22lr Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:34:18 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2666#comment-2889 Im not a fan of bullpup designs, so I wont be getting one. Interesting design though, and it would be great if you could actually get a good trigger in one of those. Im not a fan of bullpup designs, so I wont be getting one. Interesting design though, and it would be great if you could actually get a good trigger in one of those.

]]> By: Linoge http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/09/22/bullpup-m14-m4-size-m14-power/#comment-2888 Linoge Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:48:18 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2666#comment-2888 Bleh. Looks like I would have to remove both the lower rails, but also the upper rails of my SOCOM 2. Granted, it would replace those parts, but at that cost, I will halve it, deal with the longer gun, and get the replacement stock from VLTOR. Bleh. Looks like I would have to remove both the lower rails, but also the upper rails of my SOCOM 2. Granted, it would replace those parts, but at that cost, I will halve it, deal with the longer gun, and get the replacement stock from VLTOR.

]]> By: Daniel E. Watters http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/09/22/bullpup-m14-m4-size-m14-power/#comment-2887 Daniel E. Watters Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:05:12 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2666#comment-2887 There have been bullpup M14 before. There was the AWC G2, which used a special McMillan stock, and a couple from Israel. The latter were the Sirkis M36 and the product improved TCI M89SR. There have been bullpup M14 before. There was the AWC G2, which used a special McMillan stock, and a couple from Israel. The latter were the Sirkis M36 and the product improved TCI M89SR.

]]> By: Ahab http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/09/22/bullpup-m14-m4-size-m14-power/#comment-2885 Ahab Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:46:20 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2666#comment-2885 Are they still 6 months behind on shipping orders? Are they still 6 months behind on shipping orders?

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