Comments on: Stoeger X Series air rifles http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/08/06/stoeger-x-series-air-rifles/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:24:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Humberto D http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/08/06/stoeger-x-series-air-rifles/comment-page-1/#comment-86598 Humberto D Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:28:50 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2331#comment-86598 I agree about the trigger, i just ordered a replacement at archerairguns in the reviews they all says that it works perfect, will see... my is on the way, I will let you know. Best regards I agree about the trigger, i just ordered a replacement at archerairguns in the reviews they all says that it works perfect, will see… my is on the way, I will let you know.
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]]> By: Joe http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/08/06/stoeger-x-series-air-rifles/comment-page-1/#comment-85354 Joe Sat, 28 Jan 2012 18:45:23 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2331#comment-85354 Picked up an X10 at Dong's in Tulsa last night. This morning I ran around 80 RWS 9.3gr superMags through it at a 2 in. target at 25 yards. I fully expected to have several errant shots during this break-in period, but still grouping at under 3/4". I am incredibly impressed with Stoeger quality. My only complaints are the weight, heavy trigger and lack of sling attachment points. I'll get used to the weight and mount my own sling. Anybody know a good trigger replacement for this rifle? Picked up an X10 at Dong’s in Tulsa last night. This morning I ran around 80 RWS 9.3gr superMags through it at a 2 in. target at 25 yards. I fully expected to have several errant shots during this break-in period, but still grouping at under 3/4″. I am incredibly impressed with Stoeger quality. My only complaints are the weight, heavy trigger and lack of sling attachment points. I’ll get used to the weight and mount my own sling. Anybody know a good trigger replacement for this rifle?

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]]> By: giorgi http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/08/06/stoeger-x-series-air-rifles/comment-page-1/#comment-84110 giorgi Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:15:26 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2331#comment-84110 i dont kike the stoeger airgun, because it is made in china i dont kike the stoeger airgun, because it is made in china

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]]> By: bob http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/08/06/stoeger-x-series-air-rifles/comment-page-1/#comment-83581 bob Tue, 17 Jan 2012 03:13:18 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2331#comment-83581 hi; just bought an x50 using crossman hp 14gr can not keep a group. will be buying some h&n baracuda match and field target trophy whatever is the out come i'll let you know hi; just bought an x50 using crossman hp 14gr can not keep a group. will be buying some h&n baracuda match and field target trophy whatever is the out come i’ll let you know

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]]> By: bob http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/08/06/stoeger-x-series-air-rifles/comment-page-1/#comment-83579 bob Tue, 17 Jan 2012 03:10:34 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2331#comment-83579 hi; i just bought an x50 jan.13th. i've only used crosman hp. can not keep a group at all with the crosman hp but really like the rifle. will be trying the h&n baracuda match and the field target trophy pellets hope it keeps a better group. i take this serious if and whenever i get to shoot these pellets i'll let you know how i did hi; i just bought an x50 jan.13th. i’ve only used crosman hp. can not keep a group at all with the crosman hp but really like the rifle. will be trying the h&n baracuda match and the field target trophy pellets hope it keeps a better group. i take this serious if and whenever i get to shoot these pellets i’ll let you know how i did

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]]> By: Kurt http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/08/06/stoeger-x-series-air-rifles/comment-page-1/#comment-68708 Kurt Wed, 03 Aug 2011 13:11:00 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2331#comment-68708 BTW, if anyone is interested, the price of my rifles through the Sportsman's guide was 206; does anyone have the X50? I was considering one for the reason that if it is as accurate as the X20, it would be an excellent addition to my collection...I would appreciate any responses. BTW, if anyone is interested, the price of my rifles through the Sportsman’s guide was 206; does anyone have the X50? I was considering one for the reason that if it is as accurate as the X20, it would be an excellent addition to my collection…I would appreciate any responses.

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]]> By: Kurt http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/08/06/stoeger-x-series-air-rifles/comment-page-1/#comment-68707 Kurt Wed, 03 Aug 2011 13:01:15 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2331#comment-68707 In response to "Mongo": I am sorry that you had so much aggrivation with your rifles; guess i was fortunate to have got 2 great shooters right off the bat...you mentioned having open sights on yours; did you get the supressed model? The 2 that i have are supressed, and they have no open sights, which I like, as i use only scopes for my rifles. If you are ever in the market to get another X20, get the supressed one, and, if they are like mine, you will be very pleased with the accuracy and power. The thing that is really great is that they both shoot the same type and brand of pellets, which happen to be the crosman premier 14.3 gr. hollow points, which are pretty inexpensive, especially if you get them from Pyramyd air, which is buy 3, get one free. As far as accuracy and power goes, during the season, I managed to kill a large rabbit at a measured 65 yards with the first shot. It is really quiet, too, as there were birds in the area that did not fly away at the shot. As I stated earlier, I have 40 air rifles, and this one is becoming a favorite. In response to “Mongo”: I am sorry that you had so much aggrivation with your rifles; guess i was fortunate to have got 2 great shooters right off the bat…you mentioned having open sights on yours; did you get the supressed model? The 2 that i have are supressed, and they have no open sights, which I like, as i use only scopes for my rifles. If you are ever in the market to get another X20, get the supressed one, and, if they are like mine, you will be very pleased with the accuracy and power. The thing that is really great is that they both shoot the same type and brand of pellets, which happen to be the crosman premier 14.3 gr. hollow points, which are pretty inexpensive, especially if you get them from Pyramyd air, which is buy 3, get one free. As far as accuracy and power goes, during the season, I managed to kill a large rabbit at a measured 65 yards with the first shot. It is really quiet, too, as there were birds in the area that did not fly away at the shot. As I stated earlier, I have 40 air rifles, and this one is becoming a favorite.

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]]> By: Mongo http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/08/06/stoeger-x-series-air-rifles/comment-page-1/#comment-68669 Mongo Tue, 02 Aug 2011 23:39:13 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2331#comment-68669 Follow up on my comment from 01 July 2011 Regarding the Stoeger X20 Combo The Good and the Bad - First the bad: Had to send the first one back. Used 3 brands of pellets (Crossman, GWS, and Gamo's) and 6 styles and the first one couldn't hit anything you aimed at. Easily 6 inches off, not consistent, at 17 yards no matter what I did - rest/no rest, artillery hold, sand bag, blah blah. (Please don't tell me I didn't shoot it right; take a look at the Guns and Ammo article/review of the Stoeger X20 July 2010 [...]) Took off the scope and tried open sights. Had to adjust the rear sight all the way left - it really looked strange and could not get it to fire straight as well. Must have had a bum gun. Sent it back and received the replacement. Initially, I was very disappointed. Slightly better than the first gun, but still at least 3 inch grouping at 17 yards. Did a thorough internet search and watched some very informative YouTube videos. I then took it to a local gun shop to ask for some advice. They asked all of the same questions I was asking myself and then sold me some Beeman Crow Magnum pellets to try. I tried one more time to sight this thing in. Some adjustments to the scope and "voila", it was now shooting about a ¾" group at 17 yards. So, I decided to see if the gun would now perform with the other styles and brands of pellets that I had. I made no further adjustments to the scope. I took each and did a 5 shot trial from 17 yards and here are the results: Gamo Magnum - 3.5 inch spread, Gamo Match, 2.2 inch spread, GWS super point, 2.3 inch spread and way left, Gamo master point, 2.5 inch spread, Crossman (older K-mart specials) 1.1 inch spread and to the right, Gamo Hunter, 2.1 inch spread, but vertically aligned, and finally, I tried the Beeman Crow Mangnum pellets one more time, .75 inch spread and pretty much right on. Now the good: This is a solid rifle, kind of heavy, but well built and designed. Looks great too. The optics on the scope are also very good. After my initial rifle did so poorly, I sent it back to Amazon and they exchanged it no problem; Bravo Amazon. Once this thing got sighted in and I found the right pellets, I took it out and immediately removed a pernicious vertebrate pest on the first shot. I think this will be a keeper, however, I will only be able to use one kind/brand of pellet if I want it to shoot straight (well, duh) I am only rating this 3 out of 5 because of all of the hours I spent trying to get this right. Stoeger ought to have some kind of instructions with the gun to assist with this kind of problem. There are no tutorials or methods of assistance on their web site and their phone tree is frustrating. So, the good with the bad averages to a 3 out of 5. Follow up on my comment from 01 July 2011
Regarding the Stoeger X20 Combo
The Good and the Bad -
First the bad:
Had to send the first one back. Used 3 brands of pellets (Crossman, GWS, and Gamo’s) and 6 styles and the first one couldn’t hit anything you aimed at. Easily 6 inches off, not consistent, at 17 yards no matter what I did – rest/no rest, artillery hold, sand bag, blah blah. (Please don’t tell me I didn’t shoot it right; take a look at the Guns and Ammo article/review of the Stoeger X20 July 2010 [...]) Took off the scope and tried open sights. Had to adjust the rear sight all the way left – it really looked strange and could not get it to fire straight as well. Must have had a bum gun. Sent it back and received the replacement. Initially, I was very disappointed. Slightly better than the first gun, but still at least 3 inch grouping at 17 yards. Did a thorough internet search and watched some very informative YouTube videos. I then took it to a local gun shop to ask for some advice. They asked all of the same questions I was asking myself and then sold me some Beeman Crow Magnum pellets to try. I tried one more time to sight this thing in. Some adjustments to the scope and “voila”, it was now shooting about a ¾” group at 17 yards.
So, I decided to see if the gun would now perform with the other styles and brands of pellets that I had. I made no further adjustments to the scope. I took each and did a 5 shot trial from 17 yards and here are the results:
Gamo Magnum – 3.5 inch spread, Gamo Match, 2.2 inch spread, GWS super point, 2.3 inch spread and way left, Gamo master point, 2.5 inch spread, Crossman (older K-mart specials) 1.1 inch spread and to the right, Gamo Hunter, 2.1 inch spread, but vertically aligned, and finally, I tried the Beeman Crow Mangnum pellets one more time, .75 inch spread and pretty much right on.

Now the good:
This is a solid rifle, kind of heavy, but well built and designed. Looks great too. The optics on the scope are also very good. After my initial rifle did so poorly, I sent it back to Amazon and they exchanged it no problem; Bravo Amazon. Once this thing got sighted in and I found the right pellets, I took it out and immediately removed a pernicious vertebrate pest on the first shot.
I think this will be a keeper, however, I will only be able to use one kind/brand of pellet if I want it to shoot straight (well, duh) I am only rating this 3 out of 5 because of all of the hours I spent trying to get this right. Stoeger ought to have some kind of instructions with the gun to assist with this kind of problem. There are no tutorials or methods of assistance on their web site and their phone tree is frustrating. So, the good with the bad averages to a 3 out of 5.

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]]> By: Kurt http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/08/06/stoeger-x-series-air-rifles/comment-page-1/#comment-68638 Kurt Tue, 02 Aug 2011 16:00:14 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2331#comment-68638 In response to "pellet gun fanatic": I have bee hunting with air rifles for 15 years, and you definately want a .22 for rabbits, as it humanely kills them quickly. As I stated earlier in my comments, try the Stoeger X20 suppressed, as it is an excellent rifle; quiet, hard hitting at 60-70 yards, and, above all really accurate, and Sportsman's guide sells them really cheap if you are a member, and they offer a 4 pay plan, so check them both out, and you will not be disappointed. In response to “pellet gun fanatic”: I have bee hunting with air rifles for 15 years, and you definately want a .22 for rabbits, as it humanely kills them quickly. As I stated earlier in my comments, try the Stoeger X20 suppressed, as it is an excellent rifle; quiet, hard hitting at 60-70 yards, and, above all really accurate, and Sportsman’s guide sells them really cheap if you are a member, and they offer a 4 pay plan, so check them both out, and you will not be disappointed.

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]]> By: pellet gun fanatick http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/08/06/stoeger-x-series-air-rifles/comment-page-1/#comment-68535 pellet gun fanatick Sun, 31 Jul 2011 13:55:17 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2331#comment-68535 hey i've been all over the internet and when i thought i had foun the best gun there is (gamo big cat) i saw a stoeger x 10 .22 and it tops off all the other guns in price and performance. the one thing i cant decide isif i should get get the .22 or the .177. i am going to be hunting rabbits so if any one has any suggestions i would like to hear them. hey i’ve been all over the internet and when i thought i had foun the best gun there is (gamo big cat) i saw a stoeger x 10 .22 and it tops off all the other guns in price and performance. the one thing i cant decide isif i should get get the .22 or the .177. i am going to be hunting rabbits so if any one has any suggestions i would like to hear them.

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]]> By: Kurt http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/08/06/stoeger-x-series-air-rifles/comment-page-1/#comment-66398 Kurt Sun, 03 Jul 2011 17:56:24 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2331#comment-66398 Hey guys! Bought an X20 suppressed from Sportsman's guide for $206, and this rifle really shoots great! With a sight-in of 0" at 20 yards, it is only 1" low at 60 yards, with a 1.5" group, using the Crosman 14.3 gr HP rounds. The included scope is great, too, the only thing is that the center "dot" is a tad large, because at 50-60 yards, it covers a 2" circle; otherwise it is a great scope and rifle. Only took me 8 shots to have it hitting exactly where I wanted...I own 40 air rifles, and this one ranks with the best that I have...I know that anyone can get the occassional "lemon", but this one is really a tack driver, and for the price, and SG's 4-pay plan, it deserves your attention... Hey guys! Bought an X20 suppressed from Sportsman’s guide for $206, and this rifle really shoots great! With a sight-in of 0″ at 20 yards, it is only 1″ low at 60 yards, with a 1.5″ group, using the Crosman 14.3 gr HP rounds. The included scope is great, too, the only thing is that the center “dot” is a tad large, because at 50-60 yards, it covers a 2″ circle; otherwise it is a great scope and rifle. Only took me 8 shots to have it hitting exactly where I wanted…I own 40 air rifles, and this one ranks with the best that I have…I know that anyone can get the occassional “lemon”, but this one is really a tack driver, and for the price, and SG’s 4-pay plan, it deserves your attention…

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]]> By: Mongo http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/08/06/stoeger-x-series-air-rifles/comment-page-1/#comment-66091 Mongo Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:08:32 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2331#comment-66091 I just yesterday received my Stoeger x20 .177 combo with scope and was at first impressed with the feel and solidness of the rifle. I had some older Crossman pellets that I tried and couldn’t get it to shoot within 3 inches of each other at 20 yards; blamed it on the pellets. Velocity and power seemed extremely good. Went to the store last night and bought top of the line GWS pellets; supposedly one of the more accurate. Tried them today and could only get a grouping of 2 inches – solid rest with a scope. Took the scope off and then tried again with open sights. Same issue. I ended up having to adjust the rear sight all the way to the left in order to get it to come anywhere near the center of the target. I have Gamo pellets on order today and will see if they do any different. Wouldn’t y’all agree that one of the keys for any rifle is that it hits what you aim at? Well, if that is the case, this Stoeger must either be defective or they produce an inferior product. I think the $30 Crossman at K-mart might be more accurate than this thing. I just yesterday received my Stoeger x20 .177 combo with scope and was at first impressed with the feel and solidness of the rifle. I had some older Crossman pellets that I tried and couldn’t get it to shoot within 3 inches of each other at 20 yards; blamed it on the pellets. Velocity and power seemed extremely good.

Went to the store last night and bought top of the line GWS pellets; supposedly one of the more accurate. Tried them today and could only get a grouping of 2 inches – solid rest with a scope. Took the scope off and then tried again with open sights. Same issue. I ended up having to adjust the rear sight all the way to the left in order to get it to come anywhere near the center of the target.

I have Gamo pellets on order today and will see if they do any different. Wouldn’t y’all agree that one of the keys for any rifle is that it hits what you aim at? Well, if that is the case, this Stoeger must either be defective or they produce an inferior product. I think the $30 Crossman at K-mart might be more accurate than this thing.

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]]> By: Mike http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/08/06/stoeger-x-series-air-rifles/comment-page-1/#comment-64369 Mike Mon, 06 Jun 2011 01:11:26 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2331#comment-64369 Glen, Thanks for the advice. The GTA airgun forum has some great information. I bookmarked it for future reference. By the way, the numbers for the X20 look great--wow, mid-800 or so fps! That's impressive power for a budget-priced springer. However, I suspect that the X20 tested was still deseling. Yet, even so, those are some great velocities with 15.5-grain pellets. Now, I want to focus on the noise level of the X20. I'm a backyard airgunnner and need a "medium rating" with regard to loudness. I am concerned that the X20 with its 800-plus velocity is louder than a "medium rating." So, the research continues.... Thanks again, Mike Glen,

Thanks for the advice. The GTA airgun forum has some great information. I bookmarked it for future reference.

By the way, the numbers for the X20 look great–wow, mid-800 or so fps! That’s impressive power for a budget-priced springer.

However, I suspect that the X20 tested was still deseling. Yet, even so, those are some great velocities with 15.5-grain pellets.

Now, I want to focus on the noise level of the X20. I’m a backyard airgunnner and need a “medium rating” with regard to loudness. I am concerned that the X20 with its 800-plus velocity is louder than a “medium rating.” So, the research continues….

Thanks again,
Mike

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]]> By: Glen http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/08/06/stoeger-x-series-air-rifles/comment-page-1/#comment-64164 Glen Thu, 02 Jun 2011 01:47:45 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2331#comment-64164 BTW the X20s (suppressed model is $219 the standard x20 is $129) BTW the X20s (suppressed model is $219 the standard x20 is $129)

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]]> By: Glen http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/08/06/stoeger-x-series-air-rifles/comment-page-1/#comment-64163 Glen Thu, 02 Jun 2011 01:37:21 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2331#comment-64163 Mike, check out this site, wealth of knowledge. Here are some chrono of the X20s http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php/topic,11859.0/topicseen.html Mike, check out this site, wealth of knowledge. Here are some chrono of the X20s http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php/topic,11859.0/topicseen.html

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]]> By: mike http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/08/06/stoeger-x-series-air-rifles/comment-page-1/#comment-59363 mike Sun, 03 Apr 2011 00:36:55 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2331#comment-59363 I have been thinking about buying a Stoeger X20 airgun in .22 caliber. Pyramyd Air is waiting for a shipment of X20s in .22 caliber ($129.00). It would be interesting to know if anyone has chonographed the X20. Even if it's a .177 caliber, I can still get an idea of the power. I am hoping that the .22 X20's velocity is about 700 to 750 f.p.s. To achieve this velocity, the .177 X20's velocity should be 850 to 900 f.p.s. -- or at least 200 f.p.s. faster than the .22. Obviously, this is a very rough estimate. So, if anyone has done some X20 velocity testing, I would appreciate you sharing the results with me. I'm hoping the .22 X20 packs a nice punch! I have been thinking about buying a Stoeger X20 airgun in .22 caliber.
Pyramyd Air is waiting for a shipment of X20s in .22 caliber ($129.00).

It would be interesting to know if anyone has chonographed the X20. Even if it’s a .177 caliber, I can still get an idea of the power. I am hoping that the .22 X20′s velocity is about 700 to 750 f.p.s. To achieve this velocity, the .177 X20′s velocity should be 850 to 900 f.p.s. — or at least 200 f.p.s. faster than the .22. Obviously, this is a very rough estimate.

So, if anyone has done some X20 velocity testing, I would appreciate you sharing the results with me. I’m hoping the .22 X20 packs a nice punch!

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]]> By: trinidad noyola http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/08/06/stoeger-x-series-air-rifles/comment-page-1/#comment-48738 trinidad noyola Tue, 07 Dec 2010 02:36:29 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2331#comment-48738 I just bought a x10 and after adjusting the scope I shot a squirrel at 35 yards. It climbed up the tree and shot it down on second shot. It was still moving around so I shot it the third time to put it out of misery. I never missed so I was so impressed with the accuracy and power of this pellet rifle. I bought the pellet rifle because squirrels are eating the siding on my cedar home. I live on ten acres but I did not want to use my other guns because I did not want to scare my neighbors. It came with a scope and I paid 135 at Academy in San Antonio. I highly recommend this rifle. I just bought a x10 and after adjusting the scope I shot a squirrel at 35 yards. It climbed up the tree and shot it down on second shot. It was still moving around so I shot it the third time to put it out of misery. I never missed so I was so impressed with the accuracy and power of this pellet rifle. I bought the pellet rifle because squirrels are eating the siding on my cedar home. I live on ten acres but I did not want to use my other guns because I did not want to scare my neighbors. It came with a scope and I paid 135 at Academy in San Antonio. I highly recommend this rifle.

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]]> By: johnny hall http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/08/06/stoeger-x-series-air-rifles/comment-page-1/#comment-34957 johnny hall Thu, 27 May 2010 14:01:07 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2331#comment-34957 i purchased a stoeger x20 for 139.95 from daddys gun shop in mayo florida today. black synthetic stock w/ open sights (not the combo having the scope) if you look at the stoeger website http://www.stoegerairguns.com/ and choose your location you can go to specs tab and see suggested retail pricing i love this x20 , first shot i had to remind self i just put a pellet in it and not a .22 short :D very strong and the sights are absolutely fantastic. and thats a big deal considering im visually challenged pretty badly now. i could actually hit cans at 35 yards w/ open sights. i am so happy and like the other guys have said i cant put it down. there is a lot of good air guns out there. and most of us have never seen any gun we did not like. right? best thing to do imho , is go i-net and research ones you like and then go local and handle as many as you can find before buying anything. yeah i want an x50 even if it as heavy as my clunky kbi sa85m with a loaded drum hehehe. thats heavy! but i still want an x50 also i had a stoeger .22 auto pistol years and years ago and it was good firearm im glad i got this air gun and sure thank benelli for bringing them in. china arms will just keep getting better and better is my prediciton. after reading pro class air gunners reviews on break barrel air guns i think i did great buying this x20 and doubt i will put scope on it yet. i am somewhat concerned as brake barrel air guns get older and well used some speak of barrel drooping and loss of accuracy on scope mounted guns? mine will get plenty of use so i guess ill find out as time goes along. anyway brothers im off to go shoot my x20. go get you one cause i do think you will surely enjoy it. johnny i purchased a stoeger x20 for 139.95 from daddys gun shop in mayo florida
today. black synthetic stock w/ open sights (not the combo having the scope)

if you look at the stoeger website http://www.stoegerairguns.com/ and choose your location you can go to specs tab and see suggested retail pricing

i love this x20 , first shot i had to remind self i just put a pellet in it and not a .22 short :D very strong and the sights are absolutely fantastic. and thats a big deal considering im visually challenged pretty badly now.

i could actually hit cans at 35 yards w/ open sights. i am so happy and like the other guys have said i cant put it down.

there is a lot of good air guns out there. and most of us have never seen any gun we did not like. right?

best thing to do imho , is go i-net and research ones you like and then go local and handle as many as you can find before buying anything. yeah i want an x50 even if it as heavy as my clunky kbi sa85m with a loaded drum
hehehe. thats heavy! but i still want an x50 also

i had a stoeger .22 auto pistol years and years ago and it was good firearm
im glad i got this air gun and sure thank benelli for bringing them in. china arms will just keep getting better and better is my prediciton.

after reading pro class air gunners reviews on break barrel air guns i think i did great buying this x20 and doubt i will put scope on it yet. i am somewhat concerned as brake barrel air guns get older and well used some speak of barrel drooping and loss of accuracy on scope mounted guns?

mine will get plenty of use so i guess ill find out as time goes along. anyway brothers im off to go shoot my x20. go get you one cause i do think you will surely enjoy it. johnny

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]]> By: DownRangeImpact http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/08/06/stoeger-x-series-air-rifles/comment-page-1/#comment-34480 DownRangeImpact Sun, 23 May 2010 02:54:13 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2331#comment-34480 I work in a large gun store in the midwest. We sell Beeman R series guns, RWS, Crosman's Benjamin PCP's and NPSS guns and Gamo etc., etc.. I noticed the fit and finish of the Stoegers we have and not one if the 20 or so we have and have sold looks cheap. They are a Benneli product so that should be expected. I finally got the opportunity to shoot two of them after we had sold over a dozen of these guns (mostly X-10's). I was shooting the guns with two customers who eventually purchased them. They definately need to be broken in, but the firing behavior was very good for a rifle at this price point. It was actually much more accurate then I thought it would be. And since they were brand new, they have to only get better the more they are used. They are very powerful, so forget about the b_______ hype of light pellets and put Kodiaks and other heavy pellets through them. For what they cost, there is no reason not to encourage someone to buy one. They shoot as good as they look. And the fit and finish on every single Stoeger I have taken out of the box has been very impressive indeed. For "Made In China" guns, they are nothing like other guns made there that have had me shaking my head. They are very good looking guns. I have a feeling that Gamo is going to find themselves competing fiercely with Stoeger from now on. And as Stoeger gains more owners and a solid reputation from the people using their guns, I can't imagine this brand not making it into a lot of collections. I work in a large gun store in the midwest. We sell Beeman R series guns, RWS, Crosman’s Benjamin PCP’s and NPSS guns and Gamo etc., etc.. I noticed the fit and finish of the Stoegers we have and not one if the 20 or so we have and have sold looks cheap. They are a Benneli product so that should be expected. I finally got the opportunity to shoot two of them after we had sold over a dozen of these guns (mostly X-10′s). I was shooting the guns with two customers who eventually purchased them.

They definately need to be broken in, but the firing behavior was very good for a rifle at this price point. It was actually much more accurate then I thought it would be. And since they were brand new, they have to only get better the more they are used. They are very powerful, so forget about the b_______ hype of light pellets and put Kodiaks and other heavy pellets through them.

For what they cost, there is no reason not to encourage someone to buy one. They shoot as good as they look. And the fit and finish on every single Stoeger I have taken out of the box has been very impressive indeed. For “Made In China” guns, they are nothing like other guns made there that have had me shaking my head. They are very good looking guns.

I have a feeling that Gamo is going to find themselves competing fiercely with Stoeger from now on. And as Stoeger gains more owners and a solid reputation from the people using their guns, I can’t imagine this brand not making it into a lot of collections.

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]]> By: Dan http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/08/06/stoeger-x-series-air-rifles/comment-page-1/#comment-32049 Dan Sat, 01 May 2010 18:14:09 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2331#comment-32049 Let me start out by saying I am now 50 years old and I grew up shooting various BB and pellet air rifles most notably a Benjamin pump and later a first generation Daisy PowerLine .22 cal. Plinking has always been very high on my list of pastimes and I've easily shot close to 200,000 "rounds" through various air guns. Now, of course, I own several "real" guns both hand and long guns of all calibers. So when I went looking for higher velocity breakdown air rifle I was looking for the best shooting (most precise) rifle for the least price. After noticing it on the shelf and then doing some online research I bought a .177 Stoeger X10 (wooden stock) a couple of weeks ago for $91 (without scope) at a local firearms dealer here in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. I had read mostly good reviews about the gun's precision. The only issue I've had so far is having to adjust the "windage" rear sight setting almost all the way left. This tells me the front sight is off but I'm not sure it's adjustable. Once sighted in I finished a can of Gammo Magnum .177 pellets (about 100) with mixed feelings about the gun. It could have been part break in but ~20 meter groups were fair but not what I had hoped for. I decided to try some Crosman pellets and bought a can of Crosman "Premier" hollow points and a can of standard Crosman pointed "hunting" pellets. I have to comment on general quality and fit of these relatively inexpensive Crosman pellets. They fit snug and appear very consistent shape and size. I did ease the trigger pull by a few turns of the adjustment screw and still may soften it a little more. Either the gun is "breaking in" or the Crosman pellets are shooting better than the Gamo pellets but I'm having no problem shooting 1 inch (American quarter coin) groups at 20 meters from a rest (top of dog house). I believe this gun/pellet combo is capable of tighter groups with a little more familiarization and practice on my part (I've shot maybe 150 shots with the gun total so far). I agree with other posts here that say it seems to shoot harder than 1,000 fps. I haven't tried alloy pellets yet intend to. If I could change one thing on the rifle (other than front sight adjustment) I would make the front beaded sight much smaller for finer aiming as the precision of this gun seems to warrant it. My brother has the higher priced RWS gun and there is no argument from me about the RWS being a very good air rifle and very precise but at 2 to 3 times the price of the Stoeger the "bang for the buck" adage applies. I have recommended this gun to some of my shooting hobbyist friends without reservation who are looking for a reasonably priced high velocity airgun that is precise enough to be enjoyable. Dan Let me start out by saying I am now 50 years old and I grew up shooting various BB and pellet air rifles most notably a Benjamin pump and later a first generation Daisy PowerLine .22 cal. Plinking has always been very high on my list of pastimes and I’ve easily shot close to 200,000 “rounds” through various air guns. Now, of course, I own several “real” guns both hand and long guns of all calibers. So when I went looking for higher velocity breakdown air rifle I was looking for the best shooting (most precise) rifle for the least price.

After noticing it on the shelf and then doing some online research I bought a .177 Stoeger X10 (wooden stock) a couple of weeks ago for $91 (without scope) at a local firearms dealer here in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. I had read mostly good reviews about the gun’s precision. The only issue I’ve had so far is having to adjust the “windage” rear sight setting almost all the way left. This tells me the front sight is off but I’m not sure it’s adjustable.

Once sighted in I finished a can of Gammo Magnum .177 pellets (about 100) with mixed feelings about the gun. It could have been part break in but ~20 meter groups were fair but not what I had hoped for.

I decided to try some Crosman pellets and bought a can of Crosman “Premier” hollow points and a can of standard Crosman pointed “hunting” pellets.

I have to comment on general quality and fit of these relatively inexpensive Crosman pellets. They fit snug and appear very consistent shape and size.

I did ease the trigger pull by a few turns of the adjustment screw and still may soften it a little more.

Either the gun is “breaking in” or the Crosman pellets are shooting better than the Gamo pellets but I’m having no problem shooting 1 inch (American quarter coin) groups at 20 meters from a rest (top of dog house). I believe this gun/pellet combo is capable of tighter groups with a little more familiarization and practice on my part (I’ve shot maybe 150 shots with the gun total so far).

I agree with other posts here that say it seems to shoot harder than 1,000 fps. I haven’t tried alloy pellets yet intend to.

If I could change one thing on the rifle (other than front sight adjustment) I would make the front beaded sight much smaller for finer aiming as the precision of this gun seems to warrant it.

My brother has the higher priced RWS gun and there is no argument from me about the RWS being a very good air rifle and very precise but at 2 to 3 times the price of the Stoeger the “bang for the buck” adage applies.

I have recommended this gun to some of my shooting hobbyist friends without reservation who are looking for a reasonably priced high velocity airgun that is precise enough to be enjoyable.

Dan

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