Comments on: Shot at Point Blank with .308 and 44 Magnum http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/06/03/shot-at-point-blank-with-308-and-44-magnum/ Firearms not Politics Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:38:33 +1300 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Josh j http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/06/03/shot-at-point-blank-with-308-and-44-magnum/#comment-9729 Josh j Sun, 17 May 2009 23:15:29 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2192#comment-9729 wow am I reading this the auto rifle compensates much of the recoil with gas system. the revolver has both rearward motion and barrel rise, all of this is balanced on a near perfect directed explosion. the recoil of a .44 mag is around 12lbs it's muzzle energy goes past 1200lbs this is a stupid test. the vest as stated in other posts diffuses energy if you want to see how hard it hits shoot it into a chuck of steel and tell me it's nothing. 3006 will knock over and out of the ground 15lb steel targets special made by my dad it is a 6inch circle with a piece of rebar. so I guess to end I restate shooting soft armor does not test energy, that is why it works it does not just stop the bullet it entangles it slowing it rapidly. wow am I reading this the auto rifle compensates much of the recoil with gas system.
the revolver has both rearward motion and barrel rise, all of this is balanced on a near perfect directed explosion.
the recoil of a .44 mag is around 12lbs it’s muzzle energy goes past 1200lbs this is a stupid test.
the vest as stated in other posts diffuses energy if you want to see how hard it hits shoot it into a chuck of steel and tell me it’s nothing.
3006 will knock over and out of the ground 15lb steel targets special made by my dad it is a 6inch circle with a piece of rebar.
so I guess to end I restate shooting soft armor does not test energy, that is why it works it does not just stop the bullet it entangles it slowing it rapidly.

]]> By: JW http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/06/03/shot-at-point-blank-with-308-and-44-magnum/#comment-9110 JW Sat, 02 May 2009 05:49:58 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2192#comment-9110 What a couple of eeeee-dee-ots! What if...just what IF... the vest failed? One would be dead or seriously injured and the other would be up for manslaughter. Oh well, that would take at least a couple of fools out of the gene pool. What a couple of eeeee-dee-ots! What if…just what IF… the vest failed? One would be dead or seriously injured and the other would be up for manslaughter.

Oh well, that would take at least a couple of fools out of the gene pool.

]]> By: Bulletproof Jackets Central http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/06/03/shot-at-point-blank-with-308-and-44-magnum/#comment-7631 Bulletproof Jackets Central Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:35:21 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2192#comment-7631 A point that we should not be missing is; if we think we need protection, we should invest in bulletproof clothing before we go out and buy a gun. It's passive protection. It is not dependent on how good we may be with a firearm. A point that we should not be missing is; if we think we need protection, we should invest in bulletproof clothing before we go out and buy a gun. It’s passive protection. It is not dependent on how good we may be with a firearm.

]]> By: bulletproofjacket http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/06/03/shot-at-point-blank-with-308-and-44-magnum/#comment-6578 bulletproofjacket Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:36:56 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2192#comment-6578 If you that's crazy, this Colombian bulletproof jacket designer, shoots all of his employees as part of the hiring process...talk about nuts. here's some of the videos: http://www.squidoo.com/BulletproofJackets If you that’s crazy, this Colombian bulletproof jacket designer, shoots all of his employees as part of the hiring process…talk about nuts. here’s some of the videos: http://www.squidoo.com/BulletproofJackets

]]> By: Bulletproof Jacet http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/06/03/shot-at-point-blank-with-308-and-44-magnum/#comment-6120 Bulletproof Jacet Sat, 07 Feb 2009 06:21:04 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2192#comment-6120 WOW, thats awesome. What year was that? The technology has taken off since that video was made. WOW, thats awesome. What year was that? The technology has taken off since that video was made.

]]> By: Jason http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/06/03/shot-at-point-blank-with-308-and-44-magnum/#comment-5655 Jason Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:07:07 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2192#comment-5655 Counsel- Please tell me you are kidding about Wanted. It's a comic book movie, literally. It's a fantasy, it's not meant to be taken seriously on any level. Did you leave Superman decrying the many biological and physics-oriented issues? Did you tear apart Bambi because woodland animals can't really talk? Counsel-

Please tell me you are kidding about Wanted. It’s a comic book movie, literally. It’s a fantasy, it’s not meant to be taken seriously on any level. Did you leave Superman decrying the many biological and physics-oriented issues? Did you tear apart Bambi because woodland animals can’t really talk?

]]> By: Mark http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/06/03/shot-at-point-blank-with-308-and-44-magnum/#comment-4336 Mark Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:53:44 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2192#comment-4336 Freaky jail-bird room-mate made a critical maneuver. Working on a site for a client now. Fill you in another day.m Regards, MW Ps. have you heard of another survivor tale? Freaky jail-bird room-mate made a critical maneuver.
Working on a site for a client now. Fill you in another day.m
Regards, MW

Ps. have you heard of another survivor tale?

]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/06/03/shot-at-point-blank-with-308-and-44-magnum/#comment-4334 Steve Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:10:25 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2192#comment-4334 Mark, sounds pretty aweful. What is the story behind that? Mark, sounds pretty aweful. What is the story behind that?

]]> By: Mark http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/06/03/shot-at-point-blank-with-308-and-44-magnum/#comment-4333 Mark Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:07:18 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2192#comment-4333 I have yet to witness an individual that survived a point-blank entry wound from a 44 Magnum. I was shot with a long barrel, through my right gonad. The shell managed to weave past my urinary tract, major arteries, bowels, central nervous system, and clipped a chunk off my pelvis. The shell exited my right buttock, penetrated two walls, and then landed two yards from my house. I challenge anyone to provide a better story. If prompted, I will post images of the exit wound. (it exited through the upper region of my right cheek.) Lost the right nad. I have yet to witness an individual that survived a point-blank entry wound from a 44 Magnum. I was shot with a long barrel, through my right gonad. The shell managed to weave past my urinary tract, major arteries, bowels, central nervous system, and clipped a chunk off my pelvis. The shell exited my right buttock, penetrated two walls, and then landed two yards from my house. I challenge anyone to provide a better story.
If prompted, I will post images of the exit wound. (it exited through the upper region of my right cheek.) Lost the right nad.

]]> By: odorttibziz http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/06/03/shot-at-point-blank-with-308-and-44-magnum/#comment-4197 odorttibziz Sat, 20 Dec 2008 02:08:46 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2192#comment-4197 The good resource should be brought in bookmarks The good resource should be brought in bookmarks

]]> By: Counsel http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/06/03/shot-at-point-blank-with-308-and-44-magnum/#comment-2493 Counsel Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:58:57 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2192#comment-2493 "Standing" behind the armor is good marketing not safety. It may be safe, but you could show it by tying it to a balloon, etc... However, I like the education they provide most people who think a .45 ACp (or other "larger" calibedr) will throw you backwards. I love Hollywood and those who talk about stopping power as if it relates to stopping the forward momentum of the target rather than the shot killing the attacker prior to them reaching you. Hollywood--giving us the bullet that goes around corners because the shooter twists their gun-hand as they pull the trigger. Don't they do any research to know that the SLOWER the pitch, the more curve the ball gets? How are they both slowing the bullet and increasing its resistance? Sigh... “Standing” behind the armor is good marketing not safety. It may be safe, but you could show it by tying it to a balloon, etc…

However, I like the education they provide most people who think a .45 ACp (or other “larger” calibedr) will throw you backwards. I love Hollywood and those who talk about stopping power as if it relates to stopping the forward momentum of the target rather than the shot killing the attacker prior to them reaching you.

Hollywood–giving us the bullet that goes around corners because the shooter twists their gun-hand as they pull the trigger. Don’t they do any research to know that the SLOWER the pitch, the more curve the ball gets? How are they both slowing the bullet and increasing its resistance? Sigh…

]]> By: Pocosin.com » Blog Archive » Concealed Carry, Handgun, and Caliber… http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/06/03/shot-at-point-blank-with-308-and-44-magnum/#comment-2492 Pocosin.com » Blog Archive » Concealed Carry, Handgun, and Caliber… Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:54:29 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2192#comment-2492 [...] Remember, a bigger bullet will not throw anyone backwards. If you think it does, there may be nothing wrong with that thought if you don’t know any better. The Firearm Blog has some video you might find interesting. Note, do NOT do anything you see in the video on their site as they are “violating” most firearm safety “rules.” Go to their blog. [...] [...] Remember, a bigger bullet will not throw anyone backwards. If you think it does, there may be nothing wrong with that thought if you don’t know any better. The Firearm Blog has some video you might find interesting. Note, do NOT do anything you see in the video on their site as they are “violating” most firearm safety “rules.” Go to their blog. [...]

]]> By: George http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/06/03/shot-at-point-blank-with-308-and-44-magnum/#comment-2244 George Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:56:19 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2192#comment-2244 Davis has been doing this ever since he started "Second Cjance" and would go to local pistol matches to show Police Officers that his vests worked and that he "Stood" behind them Davis has been doing this ever since he started “Second Cjance” and would go to local pistol matches to show Police Officers that his vests worked and that he “Stood” behind them

]]> By: DB http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/06/03/shot-at-point-blank-with-308-and-44-magnum/#comment-2235 DB Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:47:25 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2192#comment-2235 OK.... they need to see the nice guys in the white coats... (and the straight jackets) OK…. they need to see the nice guys in the white coats… (and the straight jackets)

]]> By: jdun http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/06/03/shot-at-point-blank-with-308-and-44-magnum/#comment-2217 jdun Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:57:50 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2192#comment-2217 Why would they need to reduce the load. First, it’s not an accurate test if you aren’t using actual standard rifle ammo. Second, if firing the round doesn’t knock over the person shooting it, then the round obviously doesn’t contain enough kinetic energy to knock over the person it hits. -------------- I know bullets don't knock people down. I wasn't born yesterday. The reduce load is for safety. That was my point. Why would they need to reduce the load. First, it’s not an accurate test if you aren’t using actual standard rifle ammo. Second, if firing the round doesn’t knock over the person shooting it, then the round obviously doesn’t contain enough kinetic energy to knock over the person it hits.
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I know bullets don’t knock people down. I wasn’t born yesterday. The reduce load is for safety. That was my point.

]]> By: Phelps http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/06/03/shot-at-point-blank-with-308-and-44-magnum/#comment-2206 Phelps Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:57:10 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2192#comment-2206 Back in ancient Rome, when an engineer designed a bridge, he stood under it while the first loads were taken across it. Engineering isn't about gray areas. It is about fail or succeed. Back in ancient Rome, when an engineer designed a bridge, he stood under it while the first loads were taken across it.

Engineering isn’t about gray areas. It is about fail or succeed.

]]> By: Linoge http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/06/03/shot-at-point-blank-with-308-and-44-magnum/#comment-2205 Linoge Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:30:20 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2192#comment-2205 Reduced load or not, it violates at least two, and probably all four, of the basic firearm rules. And I honestly do not give a flying squirrel's left testicle if they were wearing armor or not, trusting it or not... that is just straight-up stupid, and not the image responsible firearm owners want to encourage. Reduced load or not, it violates at least two, and probably all four, of the basic firearm rules. And I honestly do not give a flying squirrel’s left testicle if they were wearing armor or not, trusting it or not… that is just straight-up stupid, and not the image responsible firearm owners want to encourage.

]]> By: Laughingdog http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/06/03/shot-at-point-blank-with-308-and-44-magnum/#comment-2203 Laughingdog Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:29:15 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2192#comment-2203 "Anyway the load is probably reduced on both cartridge." Why would they need to reduce the load. First, it's not an accurate test if you aren't using actual standard rifle ammo. Second, if firing the round doesn't knock over the person shooting it, then the round obviously doesn't contain enough kinetic energy to knock over the person it hits. “Anyway the load is probably reduced on both cartridge.”

Why would they need to reduce the load. First, it’s not an accurate test if you aren’t using actual standard rifle ammo. Second, if firing the round doesn’t knock over the person shooting it, then the round obviously doesn’t contain enough kinetic energy to knock over the person it hits.

]]> By: Sharp as a Marble http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/06/03/shot-at-point-blank-with-308-and-44-magnum/#comment-2202 Sharp as a Marble Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:13:47 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2192#comment-2202 <strong>Here, shoot me again...</strong> Here, shoot me again... Here, shoot me again…

Here, shoot me again…

]]> By: SayUncle » Way to prove a point http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/06/03/shot-at-point-blank-with-308-and-44-magnum/#comment-2201 SayUncle » Way to prove a point Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:32:31 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2192#comment-2201 [...] Shot point blank with a 308 to prove it won’t knock you down. Relax, he’s got a vest. [...] [...] Shot point blank with a 308 to prove it won’t knock you down. Relax, he’s got a vest. [...]

]]> By: jdun http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/06/03/shot-at-point-blank-with-308-and-44-magnum/#comment-2193 jdun Sat, 07 Jun 2008 05:09:15 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2192#comment-2193 They knew what they were doing and all the safety was account for. Anyway the load is probably reduced on both cartridge. They knew what they were doing and all the safety was account for. Anyway the load is probably reduced on both cartridge.

]]> By: Daverino http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/06/03/shot-at-point-blank-with-308-and-44-magnum/#comment-2186 Daverino Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:41:41 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2192#comment-2186 One of my favorite clips on the internet. If you want I will send you some other firearm related videos. One of my favorite clips on the internet. If you want I will send you some other firearm related videos.

]]> By: JM http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/06/03/shot-at-point-blank-with-308-and-44-magnum/#comment-2183 JM Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:14:19 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2192#comment-2183 Geez, what a couple of mental patients. I don't care how good the armor is, that is just wrong on so many safety levels, I didn't want to watch when they actually shot themselves. Geez, what a couple of mental patients. I don’t care how good the armor is, that is just wrong on so many safety levels, I didn’t want to watch when they actually shot themselves.

]]> By: Eddy Alvarez http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/06/03/shot-at-point-blank-with-308-and-44-magnum/#comment-2182 Eddy Alvarez Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:11:54 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=2192#comment-2182 wow...these guys are nuts. and irresponsible. but man they trust those vests. wow…these guys are nuts. and irresponsible. but man they trust those vests.

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