http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/03/28/afgans-been-getting-bad-ammunition/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:09:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/03/28/afgans-been-getting-bad-ammunition/#comment-15223 A. Pocat Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:07:27 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/03/28/afgans-been-getting-bad-ammunition/#comment-15223 Hard to tell, but it is probably corrosive as well. Sad to see that our troops are getting sub-par ancient surplus ammo. Hard to tell, but it is probably corrosive as well. Sad to see that our troops are getting sub-par ancient surplus ammo.

]]> http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/03/28/afgans-been-getting-bad-ammunition/#comment-12082 Lance Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:21:33 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/03/28/afgans-been-getting-bad-ammunition/#comment-12082 Most of that Afghan ammo looks like Yugo 7.62x39. Most of that Afghan ammo looks like Yugo 7.62×39.

]]> http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/03/28/afgans-been-getting-bad-ammunition/#comment-2397 Infidel Tababa Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:33:58 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/03/28/afgans-been-getting-bad-ammunition/#comment-2397 We are getting it in Iraq too. We have commercial 5.56 ammo purchased on US Army consignment that throws primer caps on nearly every round. Anecdotally we have determined three rounds to be the nominal failure point. About every three rounds, one of the caps has worked its way somewhere crucial, causing a malfunction. The two most often seen are trigger seizure when the cap acts as a wedge and your trigger jams, and caps that ride cartridges into the breech wedging themselves in. Often this jam has to be cleared by the armorer with a mallet and rod. I have personally had one instance of a runaway gun when the cap worked its way into the trigger jamming it in auto fire despite being selected to single. I have heard at least one story of a catastrophic failure resulting in a totaled weapon. On the upside I have been getting in alot of failure drills and transition drills. Supposedly there is a turn in point on one of the FOB's trying to collect up this ammo, but I have no info, it is just something I heard. I make a point of publicizing this failure issue at every opportunity lest someone get killed because of it. I am reminded of legends associated with the early days of the M-16, GI's lying dead in the mud with cleaning rod in one hand, and a locked up M-16 in the other. We are getting it in Iraq too. We have commercial 5.56 ammo purchased on US Army consignment that throws primer caps on nearly every round. Anecdotally we have determined three rounds to be the nominal failure point. About every three rounds, one of the caps has worked its way somewhere crucial, causing a malfunction. The two most often seen are trigger seizure when the cap acts as a wedge and your trigger jams, and caps that ride cartridges into the breech wedging themselves in. Often this jam has to be cleared by the armorer with a mallet and rod. I have personally had one instance of a runaway gun when the cap worked its way into the trigger jamming it in auto fire despite being selected to single. I have heard at least one story of a catastrophic failure resulting in a totaled weapon. On the upside I have been getting in alot of failure drills and transition drills. Supposedly there is a turn in point on one of the FOB’s trying to collect up this ammo, but I have no info, it is just something I heard. I make a point of publicizing this failure issue at every opportunity lest someone get killed because of it. I am reminded of legends associated with the early days of the M-16, GI’s lying dead in the mud with cleaning rod in one hand, and a locked up M-16 in the other.

]]> http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/03/28/afgans-been-getting-bad-ammunition/#comment-2185 Tom Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:26:18 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/03/28/afgans-been-getting-bad-ammunition/#comment-2185 They did make a movie with a plot similar to this "Afgans been getting bad ammunition" blog story; namely, Lord Of War (Nicholas Cage).... They did make a movie with a plot similar to this “Afgans been getting bad ammunition” blog story; namely, Lord Of War (Nicholas Cage)….

]]> http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/03/28/afgans-been-getting-bad-ammunition/#comment-1803 thebronze Fri, 28 Mar 2008 05:17:24 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/03/28/afgans-been-getting-bad-ammunition/#comment-1803 I knew it was a shady deal as soon as soon as I saw that the owner of Botach Tactical was involved. I knew it was a shady deal as soon as soon as I saw that the owner of Botach Tactical was involved.

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