Comments on: Mossberg 464 Lever Action Rifle http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:24:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Wesley P. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-84078 Wesley P. Thu, 19 Jan 2012 07:56:27 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-84078 Today, Jan. 18, 2012 I went to a local sporting goods store to look at and handle the Mossberg 464 rifle in .30-30 caliber. Overall it looks pretty good for the money; I think the sticker price was around $380.00. The hardwood stock is a little plain looking, however that shouldn't affect the way it shoots. Whatever the receiver is made of, a magnet sticks to it. The magnet wasn't sticking to a steel screw or something. It stuck to both sides of the receiver. Today, Jan. 18, 2012 I went to a local sporting goods store to look at and handle the Mossberg 464 rifle in .30-30 caliber. Overall it looks pretty good for the money; I think the sticker price was around $380.00. The hardwood stock is a little plain looking, however that shouldn’t affect the way it shoots. Whatever the receiver is made of, a magnet sticks to it. The magnet wasn’t sticking to a steel screw or something. It stuck to both sides of the receiver.

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]]> By: Chris N. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-84051 Chris N. Thu, 19 Jan 2012 04:04:08 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-84051 @Wesley P., The 464 in .30-30 does not have an aluminum receiver. I'm not sure, but the .22LR version of the 464 may have such a receiver. This could be what the customer representative was referring to. @Wesley P., The 464 in .30-30 does not have an aluminum receiver. I’m not sure, but the .22LR version of the 464 may have such a receiver. This could be what the customer representative was referring to.

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]]> By: Wesley P. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-83997 Wesley P. Thu, 19 Jan 2012 00:56:04 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-83997 Today, Jan. 18, 2012, I called O.F. Mossberg & Sons. to ask questions about their Model 464 rifle. Their customer service rep. told me that the 464's receiver is made of aluminum alloy. Does anybody know anything about this? As far as I know, most rifle receivers are made of forged steel, with some made of "High Alloy" investment steel castings. Today, Jan. 18, 2012, I called O.F. Mossberg & Sons. to ask questions about their Model 464 rifle. Their customer service rep. told me that the 464′s receiver is made of aluminum alloy. Does anybody know anything about this? As far as I know, most rifle receivers are made of forged steel, with some made of “High Alloy” investment steel castings.

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]]> By: Brian P. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-83980 Brian P. Wed, 18 Jan 2012 21:41:39 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-83980 Looks like nobody's given you an answer, so I thought I would. Yes, you can mount a scope on it. It comes drilled/tapped for a scope mount, and I believe it uses some Weaver type scope mount. I don't really know much about scopes and the like, so I don't know what that means, but I hope it helps. Looks like nobody’s given you an answer, so I thought I would. Yes, you can mount a scope on it. It comes drilled/tapped for a scope mount, and I believe it uses some Weaver type scope mount. I don’t really know much about scopes and the like, so I don’t know what that means, but I hope it helps.

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]]> By: EPWrangler http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-70948 EPWrangler Sun, 04 Sep 2011 13:18:40 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-70948 I just bought a 336 look alike called a Rio Grande in stainless steel. I am curious about the mossy and will look at one today.Do they make a stainless steel version? I just bought a 336 look alike called a Rio Grande in stainless steel. I am curious about the mossy and will look at one today.Do they make a stainless steel version?

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]]> By: Tim http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-63459 Tim Mon, 23 May 2011 01:36:08 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-63459 Does anyone know if there is a scope that will fit the 454 mossberg lever action rifle Does anyone know if there is a scope that will fit the 454 mossberg lever action rifle

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]]> By: Vince http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-47463 Vince Fri, 19 Nov 2010 23:48:31 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-47463 Been playing with a little HALO sight on my 464, found it surprisingly accurate. 165gn flat point cast lead reloads at 1850fps, and I'm getting 1.5" groups at 100yrd. this load is still good enough to drop silhouette turkeys (385 yrd), and with the halo, put the spot on anything out to 200 and you'll hit it. Everyone who tries the gun likes it (the reloads cost me under 30c per shot, so it's cheap to let others play) , especialy kids, they like the halo sight "cause it's just like in the computer game!". It is also mild to shoot, but has a big bang. I did wind up putting on a leather riser on the butt to make using a scope easier, and this may help, it is soft on the cheek. A couple of the guys in my rifle club came from the local Lever Action Club, and were State Champions in that dicipline, they quite like it as well, and are impressed with the balance, handling and accuracy of the gun. In fact it has encouraged them to bring out their old lever guns for a play and comparison session, the 464 holds up very well against them all I do still like the gun ;) Been playing with a little HALO sight on my 464, found it surprisingly accurate. 165gn flat point cast lead reloads at 1850fps, and I’m getting 1.5″ groups at 100yrd. this load is still good enough to drop silhouette turkeys (385 yrd), and with the halo, put the spot on anything out to 200 and you’ll hit it.

Everyone who tries the gun likes it (the reloads cost me under 30c per shot, so it’s cheap to let others play) , especialy kids, they like the halo sight “cause it’s just like in the computer game!”. It is also mild to shoot, but has a big bang. I did wind up putting on a leather riser on the butt to make using a scope easier, and this may help, it is soft on the cheek.

A couple of the guys in my rifle club came from the local Lever Action Club, and were State Champions in that dicipline, they quite like it as well, and are impressed with the balance, handling and accuracy of the gun.
In fact it has encouraged them to bring out their old lever guns for a play and comparison session, the 464 holds up very well against them all

I do still like the gun ;)

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]]> By: Chris N. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-44676 Chris N. Sun, 17 Oct 2010 07:30:40 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-44676 @James McCall, Found pretty easily on Weaver's website: http://www.weaveroptics.com/mountcharts/default.aspx Part number 48107 for both the front and rear. @James McCall,

Found pretty easily on Weaver’s website:

http://www.weaveroptics.com/mountcharts/default.aspx

Part number 48107 for both the front and rear.

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]]> By: james mccall http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-44657 james mccall Sat, 16 Oct 2010 23:18:44 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-44657 I have the mossberg 464 and found it to be comperable to the 94 it was modeled after, I dont even have a complaint about the safety, But i have been to several gun stores trying to find a rail to mount a scope and no one seems to be able to match the gun up to how it is drilled and tapped,,,either the screws are to big or the spacing is wrong ,,it is not like the marlin or the wincherster and is not in the ref manuals yet ,,Can anyone give me info on what or where to find rails for this gun thanks Jim I have the mossberg 464 and found it to be comperable to the 94 it was modeled after, I dont even have a complaint about the safety, But i have been to several gun stores trying to find a rail to mount a scope and no one seems to be able to match the gun up to how it is drilled and tapped,,,either the screws are to big or the spacing is wrong ,,it is not like the marlin or the wincherster and is not in the ref manuals yet ,,Can anyone give me info on what or where to find rails for this gun thanks Jim

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]]> By: Vince http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-40487 Vince Thu, 12 Aug 2010 10:47:54 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-40487 got it back, didn't take as long as i was expecting! Put the scope on, first shot dead on target. Still like the gun :) got it back,
didn’t take as long as i was expecting!
Put the scope on, first shot dead on target.
Still like the gun :)

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]]> By: Vince http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-37468 Vince Thu, 01 Jul 2010 12:04:01 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-37468 at range on sunday, plinking at silhouette targets, hitting the chickens (200yrd) and pigs (300yrd) and just ranging in on turkeys (400yrd) with leverevolution rounds, and a 3>9 x 50 scope, #@*%'ng extractor snapped. not happy, would of had 200 rounds through it max, and a couple of hundred cycles with snap-caps. now to see how long it takes to get fixed at range on sunday, plinking at silhouette targets, hitting the chickens (200yrd) and pigs (300yrd) and just ranging in on turkeys (400yrd) with leverevolution rounds, and a 3>9 x 50 scope, #@*%’ng extractor snapped.
not happy, would of had 200 rounds through it max, and a couple of hundred cycles with snap-caps.
now to see how long it takes to get fixed

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]]> By: Vince http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-36809 Vince Thu, 24 Jun 2010 12:37:19 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-36809 I've been using the 464 at the range for a bit now, fired a couple of hundred rounds of factory and reloads, still trying to find the most accurate load. It has had no trouble cycling 125gn flat nose hollow points, 150gn round nose soft point, 160gn Lever Evolution rounds, handling all with equal ease and without any problems. Action is getting smoother with use, trigger still needs help though. Managed to have a play with a pre 1976 Win94, the differences in feel, look, handling, function being slight and hardly noticable. I asked my gunsmith about the Henry, was interested in the 17HMR version. He mentioned having had a couple with accuracy problems. I've seen some Browning BLR's in 30-06, 243W, 7mm Rem Mag, Savage and Miroku in 308W and a Sako Finnwolf, might have to have a look at them instead I’ve been using the 464 at the range for a bit now, fired a couple of hundred rounds of factory and reloads, still trying to find the most accurate load.
It has had no trouble cycling 125gn flat nose hollow points, 150gn round nose soft point, 160gn Lever Evolution rounds, handling all with equal ease and without any problems.
Action is getting smoother with use, trigger still needs help though.

Managed to have a play with a pre 1976 Win94, the differences in feel, look, handling, function being slight and hardly noticable.

I asked my gunsmith about the Henry, was interested in the 17HMR version. He mentioned having had a couple with accuracy problems.

I’ve seen some Browning BLR’s in 30-06, 243W, 7mm Rem Mag, Savage and Miroku in 308W and a Sako Finnwolf, might have to have a look at them instead

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]]> By: Bob Ziccardi http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-36678 Bob Ziccardi Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:37:59 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-36678 Thanks Joel. The Henry is over 8 lbs. without a scope! I live in Vermont and hunt up and down mountains all day. Its also way too pricey for a 17 year old to be banging up in the thick stuff we hunt. It is certainly a quality gun though. Good suggestion. Thanks Joel. The Henry is over 8 lbs. without a scope! I live in Vermont and hunt up and down mountains all day. Its also way too pricey for a 17 year old to be banging up in the thick stuff we hunt. It is certainly a quality gun though. Good suggestion.

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]]> By: Joel M http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-36636 Joel M Mon, 21 Jun 2010 03:38:36 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-36636 Bob, I'd take a wait and see concerning a new model. Check out the Henry, if you want to get him something diferent. It's as slick as butter to operate, and has a fine reputation. Bob,
I’d take a wait and see concerning a new model. Check out the Henry, if you want to get him something diferent. It’s as slick as butter to operate, and has a fine reputation.

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]]> By: Bob Ziccardi http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-36617 Bob Ziccardi Sun, 20 Jun 2010 13:45:24 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-36617 I know this is a Mossberg 464 thread, but since there are comparisons to the Winchester and Marlin 30-30s, I'm looking to see if anyone has sampled the new Rossi Rio Grande 30-30. I'm interested to see how it stacks up to the Mossberg as I'm looking to get one or the other for my son this year (I've already got my assortment of both Winchesters and Marlins and want to get him something different than what dad has). I know this is a Mossberg 464 thread, but since there are comparisons to the Winchester and Marlin 30-30s, I’m looking to see if anyone has sampled the new Rossi Rio Grande 30-30. I’m interested to see how it stacks up to the Mossberg as I’m looking to get one or the other for my son this year (I’ve already got my assortment of both Winchesters and Marlins and want to get him something different than what dad has).

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]]> By: Joseph http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-35266 Joseph Sun, 30 May 2010 21:36:08 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-35266 I would very much would like to see a broshure on this gun with enlarged photo's so I can see the finish and machining on it I would very much would like to see a broshure on this gun with enlarged photo’s so I can see the finish and machining on it

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]]> By: TNTCrazyLady http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-33022 TNTCrazyLady Sat, 08 May 2010 17:21:29 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-33022 Great info - Next weekend I will be at the range with some friends trying out the various rifles they will bring. I'll keep y'all posted ;-} Great info – Next weekend I will be at the range with some friends trying out the various rifles they will bring. I’ll keep y’all posted ;-}

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]]> By: Vince http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-32895 Vince Fri, 07 May 2010 12:12:57 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-32895 Purchased a Mossberg 464 last year, quite like the balance, finish was good, cycled smoothly. Took it too the range, and was unable to hit at 50 yet alone 100yrds, was shooting about 8' high at 100 with the factory sights set as low as they could go. was very consistant though Thought this was a problem, gunsmith agreed, sent rifle back to distributor (i'm in australia, so couldn't send it back to Mossberg), they tested and then replaced the rifle with a new one. New rifle was shooting about 6" to 10" high at 100 with the sights set as low as possible, problem with the sight is it is hard to use with the blade that far down. Knocked the rear sight off, fitting Marlin rear sight, looks like it'll be about right, but i've fitted a scope, so won't be using it much Trigger on this one is not great, feels almost like a 2 stage with a definate stop in the travel, next job after making sure it shoots straight is to strip and buff/de-burr. The most dissapointing thing is that Mossberg haven't answered any of several e-mails that i have sent regarding this, and other questions like what mount's to use (aussie supplier gave me a set), or would williams firesights fit, or is there a peep sight to fit using the rear scope mount holes. However, i do like the gun ;-) Purchased a Mossberg 464 last year,
quite like the balance, finish was good, cycled smoothly.
Took it too the range, and was unable to hit at 50 yet alone 100yrds,
was shooting about 8′ high at 100 with the factory sights set as low as they could go. was very consistant though
Thought this was a problem, gunsmith agreed, sent rifle back to distributor (i’m in australia, so couldn’t send it back to Mossberg), they tested and then replaced the rifle with a new one.
New rifle was shooting about 6″ to 10″ high at 100 with the sights set as low as possible, problem with the sight is it is hard to use with the blade that far down.
Knocked the rear sight off, fitting Marlin rear sight, looks like it’ll be about right, but i’ve fitted a scope, so won’t be using it much
Trigger on this one is not great, feels almost like a 2 stage with a definate stop in the travel, next job after making sure it shoots straight is to strip and buff/de-burr.
The most dissapointing thing is that Mossberg haven’t answered any of several e-mails that i have sent regarding this, and other questions like what mount’s to use (aussie supplier gave me a set), or would williams firesights fit, or is there a peep sight to fit using the rear scope mount holes.
However, i do like the gun ;-)

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]]> By: moosemike http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-32666 moosemike Wed, 05 May 2010 17:04:41 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-32666 TNT crazylady, I think a good 30/30 carbine would be ideal for your needs. I can't think of too much that would suit you better. As for the Marlin vs. Mossberg vs. Winchester thing I'll leave that up to you. I will say that I've made kills out to 200 yards with an open sight 30/30 carbine and it did quite a good job finishing a wounded Bull Moose for me. If it hadn't I wouldn't be here writing this. TNT crazylady, I think a good 30/30 carbine would be ideal for your needs. I can’t think of too much that would suit you better. As for the Marlin vs. Mossberg vs. Winchester thing I’ll leave that up to you. I will say that I’ve made kills out to 200 yards with an open sight 30/30 carbine and it did quite a good job finishing a wounded Bull Moose for me. If it hadn’t I wouldn’t be here writing this.

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]]> By: james johnson http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-32468 james johnson Tue, 04 May 2010 02:53:09 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-32468 dear tnt purcashed the mossberg from wally world. except for the squeeze the lever before trigger, i like it, put a scope on it, and will get a green laser next week.. i put the wally red laser on a henry 22 lever and was really impressed. hard to focus and see the near sight, the far sight, and the target... the laser is easy to align, just look thro the iron sights, adjust to the iron sight target, you are done. then just put the red dot on target. i could make a can hop every time at 50 feet, standing. dear tnt
purcashed the mossberg from wally world.
except for the squeeze the lever before trigger, i like it,
put a scope on it, and will get a green laser next week..
i put the wally red laser on a henry 22 lever and was really impressed. hard to focus and see the near sight, the far sight, and the target… the laser is easy to align, just look thro the iron sights, adjust to the iron sight target, you are done.
then just put the red dot on target. i could make a can hop every time at 50 feet, standing.

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