Comments on: Mossberg 464 Lever Action Rifle http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/ Firearms not Politics Tue, 14 Oct 2008 05:47:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Kismet http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-3093 Kismet Tue, 14 Oct 2008 05:32:17 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-3093 Visited a gun store, small town type, with my economic stimulus money hot in hand. Focused on two levers...one a 1974 Win 94, the other the new Mossie. Difference of $30...and the world. I hope the Mossie owners enjoy their rifles. I think it is a nicely-done rifle. I bought the 1974 Winchester. Thirty four years is nothing to that rifle. :) YMMV. Be safe. Kis Visited a gun store, small town type, with my economic stimulus money hot in hand.

Focused on two levers…one a 1974 Win 94, the other the new Mossie.

Difference of $30…and the world.

I hope the Mossie owners enjoy their rifles. I think it is a nicely-done rifle.

I bought the 1974 Winchester. Thirty four years is nothing to that rifle. :)

YMMV.

Be safe.

Kis

]]> By: Joel M http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-2759 Joel M Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:36:44 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-2759 I bought a Marlin 336 before Remington bought Marlin, and the price was still $347 at Wal-Mart (last year). I also own an old Marlin Mountie 39A lever action 22. One of the best reasons to own a Marlin is the safety of the half-cock, which holds the hammer away from the firing pin. Very reassuring, especially in the thicket on a hog hunt. You're also less likely to get your keester shot off, if you accidently drop it from your tree stand with the safety off. The old 39A does not have an additional safety, although the 336 has a button safety on the receiver, and it is easy and fast to use. Marlin has enough history that it has a big aftermarket, and lots of upgrades (stocks, sights, levers, etc.) are available. Field stripping is done by removing the lever screw and sliding the bolt out of the receiver..again, fast and easy. For the relatively small difference in price, I'd stay with the 336. If you want good hunting accuracy, shoot up the factory rounds at the range, keep the brass, and reload them yourself. Good hunting! I bought a Marlin 336 before Remington bought Marlin, and the price was still $347 at Wal-Mart (last year). I also own an old Marlin Mountie 39A lever action 22. One of the best reasons to own a Marlin is the safety of the half-cock, which holds the hammer away from the firing pin. Very reassuring, especially in the thicket on a hog hunt. You’re also less likely to get your keester shot off, if you accidently drop it from your tree stand with the safety off. The old 39A does not have an additional safety, although the 336 has a button safety on the receiver, and it is easy and fast to use. Marlin has enough history that it has a big aftermarket, and lots of upgrades (stocks, sights, levers, etc.) are available. Field stripping is done by removing the lever screw and sliding the bolt out of the receiver..again, fast and easy. For the relatively small difference in price, I’d stay with the 336. If you want good hunting accuracy, shoot up the factory rounds at the range, keep the brass, and reload them yourself. Good hunting!

]]> By: Rich H. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-2727 Rich H. Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:27:57 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-2727 Does anyone have an answer to the "topping off" comments made earlier? Does anyone have an answer to the “topping off” comments made earlier?

]]> By: Alhaj Dhul Waqar Yaqub http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-2401 Alhaj Dhul Waqar Yaqub Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:53:27 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-2401 Dylan, * Capacity - Tubular magazine offers 6+1 capacity (centerfire) and 13+1 capacity (rimfire). Dylan,

* Capacity - Tubular magazine offers 6+1 capacity (centerfire) and 13+1 capacity (rimfire).

]]> By: dylan http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-2391 dylan Wed, 16 Jul 2008 03:52:29 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-2391 how maney bullets does Mossberg 464 Lever Action Rifle hold? how maney bullets does Mossberg 464 Lever Action Rifle hold?

]]> By: Alhaj Dhul Waqar Yaqub http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-2357 Alhaj Dhul Waqar Yaqub Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:02:01 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-2357 Well...I was able to purchase a Mossberg 464 .30-30 lever action this week end. Of all the gun stores within a three states reach, which is on my beaten path Gander Mountain was the only one who had one in stock. I paid a dealer price of $399 plus tax and I wasn't unhappy about it. From my visual "look see" of this rifle I consider it to be a "plain Jane" that will turn heads only because it looks like a Winchester 94. The fit-up between wood-to-metal and metal-to-metal was tight. This "plan Jane" is light in weight (6.7 lbs) and handles nicely. I hope to zero it in this coming week end but I've been working the action and I gotta tell yeah...it is strong...puts me in the mind of a bolt action. I'm trying to reserve further judgment until we come together with some range time. That's my impression thus far. Well…I was able to purchase a Mossberg 464 .30-30 lever action this week end. Of all the gun stores within a three states reach, which is on my beaten path Gander Mountain was the only one who had one in stock. I paid a dealer price of $399 plus tax and I wasn’t unhappy about it. From my visual “look see” of this rifle I consider it to be a “plain Jane” that will turn heads only because it looks like a Winchester 94. The fit-up between wood-to-metal and metal-to-metal was tight. This “plan Jane” is light in weight (6.7 lbs) and handles nicely. I hope to zero it in this coming week end but I’ve been working the action and I gotta tell yeah…it is strong…puts me in the mind of a bolt action. I’m trying to reserve further judgment until we come together with some range time. That’s my impression thus far.

]]> By: SugarBear http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-2338 SugarBear Wed, 02 Jul 2008 08:20:42 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-2338 Im looking into buying a 30-30 lever action rifle but i dont really know what my best bet would be with the model 94 or the Mossberg 464?? I was wondering if anyone can help point me into the right direction?? Thanks SugarBear Im looking into buying a 30-30 lever action rifle but i dont really know what my best bet would be with the model 94 or the Mossberg 464?? I was wondering if anyone can help point me into the right direction??

Thanks
SugarBear

]]> By: Alhaj Dhul Waqar Yaqub http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-2288 Alhaj Dhul Waqar Yaqub Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:04:07 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-2288 Thanks Nate for sharing your observations concerning Mossberg's new 30-30 Lever Action rifle. I was not turned off by your observations by any means. As a matter of fact as soon as I get my "bank together" I'll purchase one. I'm a Lever Action enthusiast and make good use of my Henry 22 mag. Although I really like Henry's ultra smooth action their 30-30 Lever Action is priced above me and is on the hefty side. I like the idea of a "modern 94" in a 30-30. I can adjust to the tang safety and don't have a problem breaking-in my rifle. To me perfection is being able to bag game out to 100-150 yards with one shot. In order to stay honed in on that level or any level of perfection one has to practice. I'm keen on Mossberg's new approach to the Lever Action itself. It appears to me that their action is an improvement. Okay, so much for theory. When I make the purchase and enter into the final degree of certainty i.e., actually handling and shooting the weapon I'd be more than happy to write about my findings here. Thanks Nate for sharing your observations concerning Mossberg’s new 30-30 Lever Action rifle. I was not turned off by your observations by any means. As a matter of fact as soon as I get my “bank together” I’ll purchase one. I’m a Lever Action enthusiast and make good use of my Henry 22 mag. Although I really like Henry’s ultra smooth action their 30-30 Lever Action is priced above me and is on the hefty side. I like the idea of a “modern 94″ in a 30-30. I can adjust to the tang safety and don’t have a problem breaking-in my rifle. To me perfection is being able to bag game out to 100-150 yards with one shot. In order to stay honed in on that level or any level of perfection one has to practice. I’m keen on Mossberg’s new approach to the Lever Action itself. It appears to me that their action is an improvement. Okay, so much for theory. When I make the purchase and enter into the final degree of certainty i.e., actually handling and shooting the weapon I’d be more than happy to write about my findings here.

]]> By: Nate S. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-2144 Nate S. Sun, 25 May 2008 15:39:17 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-2144 You're welcome Steve. I humbly apologize for the length of my post and the ramblings therein lol. Hopefully, my info has provided a little more insight into the basics of this neat rifle; it is obviously not perfect, but I think it has potential. My biggest grip is that damn tang safety...it's such a b*tch to operate, at least 'as new' and it would be entirely unnecessary if they just used a good old half-cock device, like everything used to (and Henry rifles still do). I was hoping the action would be smoother out of the box, but I was not honestly expecting it to be better than a '94. Ferguson brought up an interesting point regarding the 'topping-off' capabilities of Marlin and Winchester rifles; I honestly did not know there was a difference. It does make me wonder how the Mossberg works in this regard. If I get the chance to try one, I'll make a note to check it out. My bet right now is that, given how similar most other aspects of the 464 are to the '94, it'll operate very similarly, if not 100% the same. Kind Regards, ~Nate~ You’re welcome Steve. I humbly apologize for the length of my post and the ramblings therein lol. Hopefully, my info has provided a little more insight into the basics of this neat rifle; it is obviously not perfect, but I think it has potential. My biggest grip is that damn tang safety…it’s such a b*tch to operate, at least ‘as new’ and it would be entirely unnecessary if they just used a good old half-cock device, like everything used to (and Henry rifles still do). I was hoping the action would be smoother out of the box, but I was not honestly expecting it to be better than a ‘94. Ferguson brought up an interesting point regarding the ‘topping-off’ capabilities of Marlin and Winchester rifles; I honestly did not know there was a difference. It does make me wonder how the Mossberg works in this regard. If I get the chance to try one, I’ll make a note to check it out. My bet right now is that, given how similar most other aspects of the 464 are to the ‘94, it’ll operate very similarly, if not 100% the same.

Kind Regards,

~Nate~

]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-2142 Steve Sun, 25 May 2008 10:59:36 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-2142 Hi Nate, thanks very much for your review! Hi Nate, thanks very much for your review!

]]> By: Nate S. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-2140 Nate S. Sun, 25 May 2008 02:06:27 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-2140 I saw and handled my first Mossie 464 at L.L. Cote's in Errol, NH today. I was honestly surprised to see one in stock (actually, they had at least two there, possibly more...they had them scattered all over the store for no apparent reason -_-) so soon after the rifle was announced; I haven't seen one in any of the other local stores yet. The fit and finish of the gun seems to be pretty good, definitely a cut above the the late, lamented "Wal-Martized" Winchester 94s and not too far off the Marlin rifles. Bluing quality seems to be excellent, and the wood-metal fit is quite good also (I did note a slight space gap on the left-hand side where the pistol grip portion of the stock meets the action). The stock itself looks just like pictures show-for once-reddish colored, with minimal figure and straight graining. There was no checkering on any part of the stock, and it was capped off with a well-fitted red rubber butt pad. The sights provide a precise aiming picture, but the rear was set too high on this one; cheek weld was poor using it correctly, but it has a good amount of elevation adjustment, so sliding it down would be no problem. The front sight is a very nice brass bead. With the rear sight folded down, it would probably work very well with an aperture/peep rear of some sort. The trigger pull won't win any awards I'm sure, but was crisp and relatively smooth if not altogether light. It reminded me of the trigger action found on the Stevens 200 and H&R Handi Rifle-not spectacular, but good enough. Perhaps, like those rifles, the Mossberg's trigger can be made better with a bit of home tuning. The action of the rifle seems to be a dead copy of the '94; relatively short and fast, but very stiff and hard on the operating hand. It is definitely rougher and heavier than that of a comparable Marlin, and cannot compare in any way to the buttery smoothness of Henry rifle. Still, it works, and with a little use and some Gunslick, should smooth up well enough. The safety is relatively unimpressive as well. As there is no half-cock, the sliding tang bar is all you have. It is neither smooth nor quite to operate, but it is not automatic in any way thank heavens. It is readily put on "Safe" with a quick pull of the firing thumb to the rear, but required almost half the length of said thumb and a good push to get to the forward "Fire" position. Again, a bit of use might help that somewhat. One last note; I could not tell if the barrel band was synthetic or metal, but I would guess the latter. It is finished in a matte style manner at any rate and seemed quite solid. The current MSRP on the 464 is $473; the dealer wanted $399 for his. If one could be had in the $350 range, I think it would be a good value. Still, it faces strong competition from the Marlin 336 line at that price, and I don't see anything about it to warrant a higher price than that. Early reports seem to indicate it shoots well, so, with any luck, Mossberg will sell a bunch of 'em. I hope they do personally. I may look into one myself if I can find one for the right price; have to comparison shop with the Marlins first :-) I saw and handled my first Mossie 464 at L.L. Cote’s in Errol, NH today. I was honestly surprised to see one in stock (actually, they had at least two there, possibly more…they had them scattered all over the store for no apparent reason -_-) so soon after the rifle was announced; I haven’t seen one in any of the other local stores yet. The fit and finish of the gun seems to be pretty good, definitely a cut above the the late, lamented “Wal-Martized” Winchester 94s and not too far off the Marlin rifles. Bluing quality seems to be excellent, and the wood-metal fit is quite good also (I did note a slight space gap on the left-hand side where the pistol grip portion of the stock meets the action). The stock itself looks just like pictures show-for once-reddish colored, with minimal figure and straight graining. There was no checkering on any part of the stock, and it was capped off with a well-fitted red rubber butt pad. The sights provide a precise aiming picture, but the rear was set too high on this one; cheek weld was poor using it correctly, but it has a good amount of elevation adjustment, so sliding it down would be no problem. The front sight is a very nice brass bead. With the rear sight folded down, it would probably work very well with an aperture/peep rear of some sort. The trigger pull won’t win any awards I’m sure, but was crisp and relatively smooth if not altogether light. It reminded me of the trigger action found on the Stevens 200 and H&R Handi Rifle-not spectacular, but good enough. Perhaps, like those rifles, the Mossberg’s trigger can be made better with a bit of home tuning. The action of the rifle seems to be a dead copy of the ‘94; relatively short and fast, but very stiff and hard on the operating hand. It is definitely rougher and heavier than that of a comparable Marlin, and cannot compare in any way to the buttery smoothness of Henry rifle. Still, it works, and with a little use and some Gunslick, should smooth up well enough. The safety is relatively unimpressive as well. As there is no half-cock, the sliding tang bar is all you have. It is neither smooth nor quite to operate, but it is not automatic in any way thank heavens. It is readily put on “Safe” with a quick pull of the firing thumb to the rear, but required almost half the length of said thumb and a good push to get to the forward “Fire” position. Again, a bit of use might help that somewhat. One last note; I could not tell if the barrel band was synthetic or metal, but I would guess the latter. It is finished in a matte style manner at any rate and seemed quite solid. The current MSRP on the 464 is $473; the dealer wanted $399 for his. If one could be had in the $350 range, I think it would be a good value. Still, it faces strong competition from the Marlin 336 line at that price, and I don’t see anything about it to warrant a higher price than that. Early reports seem to indicate it shoots well, so, with any luck, Mossberg will sell a bunch of ‘em. I hope they do personally. I may look into one myself if I can find one for the right price; have to comparison shop with the Marlins first :-)

]]> By: DrTheophilus http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-2078 DrTheophilus Sat, 10 May 2008 20:02:04 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-2078 I own a Marlin 336 and can say I do like it better than the model 94 I owned prior to selling it in 2006...with one exception, the model 94 was more accurate then the 336, at least initailly. Since I've gotten the 336 broken-in with a couple hundred rounds it seems to shoot groups just as well as my model 94 used to...about 2.5 inches at 115 yeards on a three shot group from a cold barrel (on my own slice of BLM range out here in New Mexico). The Marlin weighs a little more and just has a better feel to it than the thin, and very fast-handling 94. My 94 also required a side mounted scope, so I just used a peep sight on it until I sold it...and I suspect that's one reason why the groups were a little large...my Marlin 336 now shoots 1.5 inch groups from sandbags at the same distance with a 4x scope. I think I'll buy a Mossberg 464 and see how the button rifled barrel does with the LeverEvolution loads from Hornady...both with the iron sights and a 2-7x scope I have my eye on. I own a Marlin 336 and can say I do like it better than the model 94 I owned prior to selling it in 2006…with one exception, the model 94 was more accurate then the 336, at least initailly. Since I’ve gotten the 336 broken-in with a couple hundred rounds it seems to shoot groups just as well as my model 94 used to…about 2.5 inches at 115 yeards on a three shot group from a cold barrel (on my own slice of BLM range out here in New Mexico). The Marlin weighs a little more and just has a better feel to it than the thin, and very fast-handling 94. My 94 also required a side mounted scope, so I just used a peep sight on it until I sold it…and I suspect that’s one reason why the groups were a little large…my Marlin 336 now shoots 1.5 inch groups from sandbags at the same distance with a 4x scope. I think I’ll buy a Mossberg 464 and see how the button rifled barrel does with the LeverEvolution loads from Hornady…both with the iron sights and a 2-7x scope I have my eye on.

]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-2052 Steve Tue, 06 May 2008 20:27:10 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-2052 I have not heard of a left model. Try calling or emailing mossberg. I have not heard of a left model. Try calling or emailing mossberg.

]]> By: NDeeZ http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-2049 NDeeZ Tue, 06 May 2008 17:35:17 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-2049 Sorry for the basic ? here, but I'm a newbie AND a lefty...Is there a model that ejects on the left side? Sorry for the basic ? here, but I’m a newbie AND a lefty…Is there a model that ejects on the left side?

]]> By: FergusonTO35 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-1838 FergusonTO35 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:38:57 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-1838 Marc- You are right on all points, the levergun is great for a hunter and is also dandy for home protection for all the reasons you mention. I own a Marlin 1894 (357 magnum), Marlin 1895 (45-70 Gov't), and Winchester 94 (30-30 ) and love 'em. There is one key difference between the 94 and the Marlins I think I should mention. You can top off the magazine of the Marlins any time you like, but the magazine of the Winchester 94 will not accept more shells after the last one has been pushed completely into the magazine. This is because once a shell is pushed completely through the loading gate on the 94, pressure from the magazine spring pushes it behind the gate onto the cartridge lifter, blocking more shells from being inserted until there are no more in the magazine. The Marlins have a small metal "finger" in front of the loading gate which keeps the shells all the way inside the magazine tube until the action is cycled. I wonder how the new Mossberg deals with this, if it can accept more shells in a partially filled magazine? Happy shooting, Lance. Marc-
You are right on all points, the levergun is great for a hunter and is also dandy for home protection for all the reasons you mention. I own a Marlin 1894 (357 magnum), Marlin 1895 (45-70 Gov’t), and Winchester 94 (30-30 ) and love ‘em. There is one key difference between the 94 and the Marlins I think I should mention. You can top off the magazine of the Marlins any time you like, but the magazine of the Winchester 94 will not accept more shells after the last one has been pushed completely into the magazine. This is because once a shell is pushed completely through the loading gate on the 94, pressure from the magazine spring pushes it behind the gate onto the cartridge lifter, blocking more shells from being inserted until there are no more in the magazine. The Marlins have a small metal “finger” in front of the loading gate which keeps the shells all the way inside the magazine tube until the action is cycled. I wonder how the new Mossberg deals with this, if it can accept more shells in a partially filled magazine?
Happy shooting, Lance.

]]> By: Marc Russo http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-1798 Marc Russo Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:58:20 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-1798 Another advantage is that you can "top up" the magazine while the rifle is on your shoulder in a ready condition through the loading port on the side plate. A lever action is also much easier to shoot and cycle from a horse, although that is rarely needed these days. They are also much better than a bolt action for follow up shots on moving targets, and less susceptible to "short-stroking" than a pump action. There are some disadvantages which prevented lever actions from being adapted as military arms. Firstly, they aren't as robust as bolt actions and can't be easily field stripped. They are must more vulnerable to dirt and abuse and can't take sustained firing for long periods without tightening the screws every 50-100 rounds. They having more moving parts, some of them quite delicate. As rounds move down the magazine tube, the balance changes and so does the sight zero (slightly). Also, they are not very adaptable to fire from a prone position. The travel of the lever forces the firer to lift the gun and his head up a few inches while ejecting and cycling. Another advantage is that you can “top up” the magazine while the rifle is on your shoulder in a ready condition through the loading port on the side plate. A lever action is also much easier to shoot and cycle from a horse, although that is rarely needed these days. They are also much better than a bolt action for follow up shots on moving targets, and less susceptible to “short-stroking” than a pump action.

There are some disadvantages which prevented lever actions from being adapted as military arms. Firstly, they aren’t as robust as bolt actions and can’t be easily field stripped. They are must more vulnerable to dirt and abuse and can’t take sustained firing for long periods without tightening the screws every 50-100 rounds. They having more moving parts, some of them quite delicate. As rounds move down the magazine tube, the balance changes and so does the sight zero (slightly). Also, they are not very adaptable to fire from a prone position. The travel of the lever forces the firer to lift the gun and his head up a few inches while ejecting and cycling.

]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-1578 Steve Thu, 28 Feb 2008 01:51:00 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-1578 FergusonTO35, if you get a chance to handle one please let us know how it compares to your 94. FergusonTO35, if you get a chance to handle one please let us know how it compares to your 94.

]]> By: FergusonTO35 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-1577 FergusonTO35 Thu, 28 Feb 2008 01:48:05 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-1577 I am particularly excited about this new rifle and am looking forward to examining it. From what I gather, the 464 is an updated version of John Browning's calssic Winchester 94. Notable differences include a round rather than square bolt (similar to the Marlin 336) and a "bridge" above the locking block mortise on the rear of the reciever which will make a much steadier perch for mounting a scope or reciever sight. The new rifle should have a real world retail price of around $300 or so, making it very price competitive. I own one of the last Winchester 94's made, circa 2003. It has accounted for several deer and is a good working hunting rifle. However the wood to metal fit and the looseness of the parts inside the reciever is clearly substandard and is a constant reminder that the rifle was built to fulfill a low price point. I am planning to get the rifle restocked soon which means I should have spent extra money on one of the better models in the first place. If Mossberg can produce this rifle with the good fit and finish that we used to expect from Winchester then it will be a winner. I am particularly excited about this new rifle and am looking forward to examining it. From what I gather, the 464 is an updated version of John Browning’s calssic Winchester 94. Notable differences include a round rather than square bolt (similar to the Marlin 336) and a “bridge” above the locking block mortise on the rear of the reciever which will make a much steadier perch for mounting a scope or reciever sight. The new rifle should have a real world retail price of around $300 or so, making it very price competitive.

I own one of the last Winchester 94’s made, circa 2003. It has accounted for several deer and is a good working hunting rifle. However the wood to metal fit and the looseness of the parts inside the reciever is clearly substandard and is a constant reminder that the rifle was built to fulfill a low price point. I am planning to get the rifle restocked soon which means I should have spent extra money on one of the better models in the first place. If Mossberg can produce this rifle with the good fit and finish that we used to expect from Winchester then it will be a winner.

]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-1500 Steve Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:14:03 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-1500 They are faster to cycle than a standard bolt action. The lever is pushed forward and pulled back rather than a twist up, pull back, push forward, twist down of a bolt. They are faster to cycle than a standard bolt action. The lever is pushed forward and pulled back rather than a twist up, pull back, push forward, twist down of a bolt.

]]> By: DoubleTapper http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-1499 DoubleTapper Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:41:41 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-1499 I've never had the opportunity to fire a lever action rifle. What is the advantage of a lever action vs bolt action? DoubleTapper DoubleTapper@gmail.com http://doubletapper.blogspot.com I’ve never had the opportunity to fire a lever action rifle. What is the advantage of a lever action vs bolt action?

DoubleTapper
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]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-1476 Steve Sun, 17 Feb 2008 00:26:40 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-1476 thanks. thanks.

]]> By: T. Boone Pickens http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-1475 T. Boone Pickens Sun, 17 Feb 2008 00:15:51 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/15/mossberg-464-level-action-rifle/#comment-1475 "Mossberg have released a new level (sic) action rifle," Spell check. “Mossberg have released a new level (sic) action rifle,”

Spell check.

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