Comments on: Auto-Ordnance M1 Carbine http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/06/auto-ordnance-m1-carbine/ Firearms not Politics Tue, 14 Oct 2008 05:33:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Dave S. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/06/auto-ordnance-m1-carbine/#comment-2939 Dave S. Sat, 27 Sep 2008 00:59:45 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/06/auto-ordnance-m1-carbine/#comment-2939 OK, Lane, I'll bite - how much does it cost to make an M1 Carbine, and what is the acceptable profit margin on that cost? OK, Lane, I’ll bite - how much does it cost to make an M1 Carbine, and what is the acceptable profit margin on that cost?

]]> By: lane crawley http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/06/auto-ordnance-m1-carbine/#comment-2780 lane crawley Mon, 08 Sep 2008 04:57:01 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/06/auto-ordnance-m1-carbine/#comment-2780 There is no reason for these rifles to be so expensive. You should be able to buy any M-1 carbine rifle for 400.00 or less new!!!!!!!! There is no reason for these rifles to be so expensive.

You should be able to buy any M-1 carbine rifle for 400.00 or less new!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Eric http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/06/auto-ordnance-m1-carbine/#comment-1934 Eric Mon, 21 Apr 2008 07:54:30 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/06/auto-ordnance-m1-carbine/#comment-1934 You guys that lament about the "high prices" of newly manufactured firearms seem to forget that firearms manufactures are in a "business" and not a charity. The price that Kahr is charging for this tactical M1 carbine seems reasonable. Ruger charges similar prices for its line of Mini rifles in .223 and 7.62 x 39. People grumble about how they can buy an OLD M1 carbine at lower prices. But, with the Kahr version of the M1, is that a person is paying for a "newly manufactured" M1 carbine that is made with NEW PARTS and comes with a WARRANTY. Sure, go ahead and save some dollars with buying a 60 year old firearm, with the unknown factor how worn the working parts are, and with no warranty, either. You guys that lament about the “high prices” of newly manufactured firearms seem to forget that firearms manufactures are in a “business” and not a charity. The price that Kahr is charging for this tactical M1 carbine seems reasonable. Ruger charges similar prices for its line of Mini rifles in .223 and 7.62 x 39. People grumble about how they can buy an OLD M1 carbine at lower prices. But, with the Kahr version of the M1, is that a person is paying for a “newly manufactured” M1 carbine that is made with NEW PARTS and comes with a WARRANTY. Sure, go ahead and save some dollars with buying a 60 year old firearm, with the unknown factor how worn the working parts are, and with no warranty, either.

]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/06/auto-ordnance-m1-carbine/#comment-1881 Steve Thu, 10 Apr 2008 00:14:36 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/06/auto-ordnance-m1-carbine/#comment-1881 Thanks for the comment Bill Thanks for the comment Bill

]]> By: Wild Bill http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/06/auto-ordnance-m1-carbine/#comment-1880 Wild Bill Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:43:45 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/06/auto-ordnance-m1-carbine/#comment-1880 I just purchased the Auto-Ordnance M1 Carbine (AOM130) at a local gunshow for $708.00 including tax. Yep, that's right the good old wood stock model of traditional WWII, Korea, and early Vietnam vintage. I am pleased with the price as well as the look and feel of the weapon. I think the folding stock on the AOM160 will probably interfere with firing and reloading operations. Furthermore, the FFL dealer's price was $650.00, which is virtually $160.00 off the posted price for this model on the Kahr Arms/Auto-Ornance website. You WILL NOT find any of the original production M1 Carbines for this price at gunshows. Most FFL types are purchasing their antique/collector M1 Carbines from CMP and hiking the price by at least $250-300.00. If anybody does not believe me, then check out the ODCMP website. CMP is currently offering vintage M1 Carbines received from Italy in at best their "Service Grade" but most weapons are of the lower "Rack Grade" category. Therefore, those folks who want a good shooter for an equitable price should highly consider purchasing the Kahr Arms/Auto-Ordnance reproduction M1 Carbine. Satisfied customer and retired U.S. Marine Paratrooper. I just purchased the Auto-Ordnance M1 Carbine (AOM130) at a local gunshow for $708.00 including tax. Yep, that’s right the good old wood stock model of traditional WWII, Korea, and early Vietnam vintage. I am pleased with the price as well as the look and feel of the weapon. I think the folding stock on the AOM160 will probably interfere with firing and reloading operations. Furthermore, the FFL dealer’s price was $650.00, which is virtually $160.00 off the posted price for this model on the Kahr Arms/Auto-Ornance website. You WILL NOT find any of the original production M1 Carbines for this price at gunshows. Most FFL types are purchasing their antique/collector M1 Carbines from CMP and hiking the price by at least $250-300.00. If anybody does not believe me, then check out the ODCMP website. CMP is currently offering vintage M1 Carbines received from Italy in at best their “Service Grade” but most weapons are of the lower “Rack Grade” category. Therefore, those folks who want a good shooter for an equitable price should highly consider purchasing the Kahr Arms/Auto-Ordnance reproduction M1 Carbine.

Satisfied customer and retired U.S. Marine Paratrooper.

]]> By: me http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/06/auto-ordnance-m1-carbine/#comment-1566 me Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:23:42 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/06/auto-ordnance-m1-carbine/#comment-1566 I have had the opportunity to examine some of these Auto-Ord carbines and the machining and fit and finish look good, but I have to wonder who will buy them. MSRP is far more than the "street" price but the dealers still want $650 to $700 for them at funshows. I must say that I can understand why a collector would pay that kind of money to get into a cherry Rock-Ola or IBM or Winchester, but who would pay this much for a new-production Carbine with zero collector interest, which won't hold its value? They cost twice what they should. I built my last AR for less than that. I found an unfired Cav Arms complete lower assembly on the Equipment Exchange at Arfcom for $180, a complete A2 upper cobbled together of assorted no-name parts with a chrome-lined surplus barrel for $250, and a RRA bolt carrier group plus charging handle for $125. That's $555 for a working AR that is more accurate than I can hold, which has had zero malfunctions in several hundred rounds of ammo so far. Once collector interest and aesthetic considerations of wood vs. plastic go are considered, and we look at actual utility, it seems to me that there isn't going to be much market for the new Carbine at that price. It is overpriced by at least $200 even to compete with the Mini-14. So I have to wonder just what it is they're thinking at Auto-Ord these days. I have had the opportunity to examine some of these Auto-Ord carbines and the machining and fit and finish look good, but I have to wonder who will buy them. MSRP is far more than the “street” price but the dealers still want $650 to $700 for them at funshows. I must say that I can understand why a collector would pay that kind of money to get into a cherry Rock-Ola or IBM or Winchester, but who would pay this much for a new-production Carbine with zero collector interest, which won’t hold its value?

They cost twice what they should. I built my last AR for less than that. I found an unfired Cav Arms complete lower assembly on the Equipment Exchange at Arfcom for $180, a complete A2 upper cobbled together of assorted no-name parts with a chrome-lined surplus barrel for $250, and a RRA bolt carrier group plus charging handle for $125. That’s $555 for a working AR that is more accurate than I can hold, which has had zero malfunctions in several hundred rounds of ammo so far. Once collector interest and aesthetic considerations of wood vs. plastic go are considered, and we look at actual utility, it seems to me that there isn’t going to be much market for the new Carbine at that price. It is overpriced by at least $200 even to compete with the Mini-14. So I have to wonder just what it is they’re thinking at Auto-Ord these days.

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]]> By: Hayden http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/06/auto-ordnance-m1-carbine/#comment-1312 Hayden Wed, 06 Feb 2008 06:31:20 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/02/06/auto-ordnance-m1-carbine/#comment-1312 That is really cool, makes it look a lot more modern. That is really cool, makes it look a lot more modern.

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