Comments on: Auto-Ordnance M1 Carbine

By: Chana Waguespack

Chana Waguespack — Sun, 29 Jan 2012 08:06:31 +0000

Very good article post.Much thanks again. Want more.

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By: Julio

Julio — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:31:19 +0000

Still enjoy mine. No problems … Have had it now for over 2 1/2 years. Can’t complain!

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By: Michael J. Bushey

Michael J. Bushey — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:56:27 +0000

I saw this gun advertised here in Maine. I gather from these posts no one would buy it. I have always wanted an M-! carbine not for collecting but for shooting.

Gun Code: 165792 Manufacturer: KAHR Serial Number: MA1605 Model: M1 CARBINE Action: RIFLE: SEMI Caliber: 30 CARBINE Condition: 95% Features: BAYO,MAG POUCH,ORIG SIGHTS; 18″; ACC,LAM THM HOLE,HOLO SIGHT Price: $625.00

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By: bob

bob — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 03:14:11 +0000

I purchased an AO M-1 Carbine in 2006. I have never had a problem with the gun. I did purchase a dozen GI mags at a gun show and a few had feed problems. I installed a bayonett lug barrel band and changed the flip sight to an adjustable one. I have about a thousand rounds through it and it functions great. I now reload my ammo and could not be happier with my gun. I guess they have gone up a bit since 2006, i paid $579.00 for mine new at Impact Guns.com.

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By: Dale Fickel

Dale Fickel — Sat, 28 May 2011 01:00:45 +0000

To Dale from Dale Hi guy. I have the Khar M-1 carbine. I had for several month’s until I found a place I could shoot it. But I read a lot review’s buy people with nothing good to say about it. I had a great time with mine. Before I shot it. I oiled it very well because parkerized metal need’s oiled. I’m the 4th son of a WW2 Iwo Jima vet (4th Marine Div.23rd Reg.) I cycled ammo thru it a few times & reoiled. To help break it in. I got the walnut stock. Dad really liked it alot. I put the bayonet lug on it. He said his didn’t have that on his. But not all of us had a bad time with our rifle’s. Sorry you had such a bad time. I also have the ATI AT-47. Like it to. I’ve shot it a lot to. I myself was in the US Army & Law Enforcement in the 1970′s. Owned many gun’s & reloaded alot. Keep shooting & keep shouting out the truth. Thank’s DRF.

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By: Tom

Tom — Sun, 15 May 2011 18:06:54 +0000

My buddy recently bought a new auto ordinance carbine with folding stock.
I was afraid he would have problems with it after reading so many negative reports on this rifle. Fortunately, after two trips to the range he has not had a single malfunction after firing approx. 150-200 rounds which consisted of half factory hard ball and half reloads ( 110 grain rem soft points and H110). I have a GI Winchester carbine so was able to compare the two rifles while taking turns shooting. I noticed that the auto ordinance supplied 15 round magazine does not click in the mag well very tight. The new Korean made 15 round magazine and GI 15 and 30 rounders that I had fit with a more noticeable click when they were seated. I noticed the action on the auto ordinance was not as smooth as the Winchester which added to my initial fear that the rifle was going to malfunction. Before heading to the range, I took the rifle apart or tried to. I was unable to get the operating handle off the barrel so was not able to get the bolt out. The rifle was cleaned and lubricated and put back together. I noticed that the metal upper hand guard and barrel band that holds everything together are lame to say the least. The barrel band appears to be thin stamped metal. The Winchester has a solid piece of steel which includes the bayonet lug. The auto ordinance has a flip L sight which is not easily adjustable other than the two distance settings. I have a fully adjustable sight on the Winchester. To remove or adjust the rear sight on the AO it is recommended that a sight pusher (approx. $100) be used. The auto ordinance shot several inches to the right for me at a mere 50 yards but grouped ok. In MHO, the GI carbines are built better than the newly manufactured ones by auto ordinance. My buddy likes his but probably wouldn’t have if it jammed right out of the box.

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By: Tuan Nguyen

Tuan Nguyen — Sun, 06 Mar 2011 05:55:13 +0000

I’m sorry so many people have had problems with the Auto Ordnance M1 Carbine. I’m one of the few that are happy with mine. The first trip to the range, it jammed every other time. The bolt wouldn’t go forward into battery. After taking it apart, cleaning and oiling it, it works fine. I got 5 30 round mags, and at first, it was so tight, it was exhausting inserting them into the gun. After a few times, the magazines fit in easily now. This is a brand new gun, and it’s tight and rough and needs to be cleaned, oiled, and broken in. For all the people complaining that this is not an original, “collector” gun, guys, if you want to get wealthy off of your “original”, “collector” m1 carbine, you shouldn’t be shooting them. I buy guns to shoot them, not to look at them.

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By: Iman Azol

Iman Azol — Fri, 04 Mar 2011 00:57:06 +0000

Nate: Check headspace and the barrel skirt, and make sure the operating spring is clear. I had to tweak that on an old Plainfield.

Otherwise, just call and get a return number, send it to them and they’ll send it back. They’re usually pretty good about working with service people.

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By: Nate

Nate — Thu, 03 Mar 2011 22:10:09 +0000

Got the AOM130 model back in spring of 09. paid around $800 for it. when i finally got to shoot it months later the bolt failed to fully lock. I have to use the “forward assist” every time in order for the bolt to lock and even if it does fire I’m lucky if it cycles more than one round. I decided to investigate on the web to see who else had problems. after reading a good handful of reviews from others who had an issue with the rifle and the customer service I decided to let it go, considering that as a student, and a soldier in the guard I have not the time nor the motivation to keep calling customer service between homework, working out, and most of my weekends being taken away as it is. But as an Army small arms repairman, I plan on looking up some old manuals and talking to old friends to see if I can fix the problem myself.

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By: John Winton

John Winton — Tue, 01 Mar 2011 00:04:43 +0000

Just to let you guys know, I bought my AO160 anyways! Glad I did, I love it. I did have FTF issues. The problem isn’t ammo, it’s non-spec spring tensioning in the magazines. Mine was so stiff it actually kicked the mag loose when trying to chamber a round! I realized what was going on and started loading seven in instead of 10 and bingo!! Not a single FTF three hundred rounds and counting thereafter. I tired lubing the little booger, no difference. I bet the GI ones are OK. I will try that soon and post. Also, some aftermarket Cheaper Than Dirt ones arrived since; I will test those but the quality is suspect…

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By: Iman Azol

Iman Azol — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 17:10:05 +0000

GI canvas sling. The oil bottle barely fit, too.

This was on stocks stamped for Winchester, Inland, and someone else.

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By: mike

mike — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 00:02:13 +0000

Do you have a cotton sling or nylon?Also thanks for the heads up on the Remington ammo.

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By: Iman Azol

Iman Azol — Wed, 29 Dec 2010 03:33:17 +0000

mike: aftermarket Carbine mags are notorious for being crap. You say the factory mag worked fine. You’ll need to get more of those, or real GI mags.

Remington ammo is generally prone to more issues than other brands.

The sling on my GI carbine is a VERY snug fit, and had to be forced in. That’s not uncommon.

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By: mike

mike — Tue, 28 Dec 2010 00:01:32 +0000

I went to the range this weekend and sent some rounds up-range.I used the mag that came with the rifle and i fired 15 rounds without trouble.I also used two different surplus mags and had both feed and ejection issues.I fired Remington ammo.Also i cannot install a surplus M1 sling as it is too thick for the cutout.I payed 900 for this rifle and it is not worth it.

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By: mike

mike — Wed, 22 Dec 2010 00:07:03 +0000

Just picked up a AOM130.Has anyone had trouble putting a sling on?

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By: lucky

lucky — Sat, 25 Sep 2010 02:31:34 +0000

i have had my m1 sent back to kahr arms twice. truly a piece of junk. i tried to sell it last week. was only offered half of what i paid for it. metal is crap. there were gas holes in the slide. now after doing research on kahr i find they are owned by the moonies. so this gun probbaly was made in china or had parts made in china. anyways the gun retailers are onto how bad these guns are so i am stuck with a 700 dollar paper weight. shame on me. should have paid attention to my history books. even james gavin pioneer of the 82 airborne got rid of his M1 carbine after his first combat jump in Sicily. they were jamming bad back then.. ill stick with my AK from now on.

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By: Eric

Eric — Mon, 20 Sep 2010 01:48:51 +0000

I’ve done a little research, and I’ve concluded that Auto Ordnance’s quality of product is “off-and-on.” Every couple of years, a batch of their 1911s, Thompsons, and Carbines turns sour, then improves just enough to lure customers back.
Personally, I bought a WW2 surplus Winchester M1 carbine, and have found it completely satisfactory. It works with all types of ammo, and a few months ago, my friend’s 90 year old father joined me at the range and got to fire an M1 carbine for the first time in over 60 years (he got a nice group at 50 yards, too!)
My only issue is that I had originally hoped to obtain one without a bayonet lug or adjustable sights, as this is what would have been the norm in the war. If I had the time, I might get an AO copy, for the sake of having a carbine I could modify and customize without regret, but I don’t.
I know little about the firearms made by Kahr Arms, AO’s current owner, but I do know that I don’t have the paycheck to trust AO’s brand of service. Now if I decide I want a semi auto Thompson, I might swallow my pride…nah, I’d rather save up for a class 3 purchase; less of a headache.

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By: Nathaniel

Nathaniel — Sun, 29 Aug 2010 23:09:26 +0000

After reading all the comments and scouring the Internet for info, I think I’m seeing a trend: the AOs that come with the 15 round mags work fine, while the ones that come with 10 round mags appear to hardly work at all.

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By: Craig

Craig — Sun, 15 Aug 2010 18:00:00 +0000

Purchased 2 of the new A/O M-1 Carbines for our dept recently. Short version is- have had nothing but problems with one, and minor glitches with the other which remain unresolved by the mfg. Learned our lesson the hard way guys. Take care and stay safe. Sgt. L.P.

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By: Jordan

Jordan — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 21:38:38 +0000

I purchased an Auto-Ordnance carbine for my self last year at $900. The first time I took it to the range it jammed on the first round. I tried a different mag with three different brands of 30 carbine ammo didn’t matter sometimes it never even fired. And when you pulled on the operating rod to eject the round it wouldn’t. So I took it back to the gun shop I bought it from, they tried it out with their mags and their own ammo. Didn’t matter, it jammed so badly a round got caught in the rifling in the barrel. Now this a firearm I just took out of a brand new case and I felt like a dummy for even buying it. The gun shop I purchased it from had problems with all the ones they ordered in and they can’t seem to get a hold of Kahr arms. To me a firearms maker having this many problems shouldn’t be in business. Hell I could have bought an AR, or original 30 Carbine, and maybe even the great Grand rifle. And most likely with proper care would have function flawlessly. Anybody with good information of how to fix this problem I would be grateful Hell I’m still waiting for it to get taken care of and that was three months ago.

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