Comments on: Winchester Model 70: Extreme Weather SS http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/01/04/winchester-model-70-extreme-weather-ss/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:19:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mike http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/01/04/winchester-model-70-extreme-weather-ss/comment-page-1/#comment-86047 Mike Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:50:12 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/01/04/winchester-model-70-extreme-weather-ss/#comment-86047 I have a Extreme Weather in 338 Win Mag. It's only a 2 or 3 shot rifle at best. The nicely fluted & skinny 26" barrel is light for packing but is so thin, it won't hold a 5 shot group. 2 or 3 shots... wait 20 minutes to cool, shoot 2 or 3, and so on. This is unfortunate because this rifle is very well made. Winchester magazine box is ridiculously short so the handloader will have difficulty taking advantage of longer bullets or seating depth adjustments without installing an extended magazine box. Lugs lock up perfectly and are better than 90% of the factory rifles out there. Trigger is outstanding. Stock feels great and has no flex at the fore end. 26" barrel is appreciated in this caliber. Recoil lug is nice and thick! Recoil isn't bad. Bolt cycles very smoothly. Spent shells can hang up unless the bolt is cycled with authority. The bolt handle is short and my hand seems to bump the eyepiece of the scope when shot from the shoulder but it makes for a more compact carry and fits better in a scabbard. First 2 or 3 shots may be sub 1". After that, it opens up to 2" or worse. Frankly, I expected better. As a hunting rig, you'll like it just fine but don't have high expectations or any confidence that it will hold multiple tight groups at the range without plenty of down time between 3-shot groups. I talked to the repair facility in Missouri about accuracy. In this caliber, they said not to expect better than 2 MOA. There seems to be a major disconnect with Marketing and Operations since Winchester claims that with good optics and quality ammo, sub MOA can be expected. For $1100.00, it should shoot light out but money spent for factory rifles doesn't necessarily equate into accuracy. Winchester - FN is really on the right track with these EW Model 70's. I'd like to see longer magazine boxes and shorter throats. It wouldn't hurt my feelings either if their Extreme Weather rifles held a 10 shot group but I understand that this isn't a bench rifle and also appreciate the light carry weight. Since I handload, I'm having an extended magazine box installed to better adjust the seating depth of the bullets. I'm also bedding the action as the aluminum bedding block still doesn't insure a perfect fit. This is a great hunting rifle and as a hunting rig, the compromises are all in the right place. It functions perfectly 100% of the time, is light and will put the first shots where your aiming. I have a Extreme Weather in 338 Win Mag. It’s only a 2 or 3 shot rifle at best. The nicely fluted & skinny 26″ barrel is light for packing but is so thin, it won’t hold a 5 shot group. 2 or 3 shots… wait 20 minutes to cool, shoot 2 or 3, and so on. This is unfortunate because this rifle is very well made. Winchester magazine box is ridiculously short so the handloader will have difficulty taking advantage of longer bullets or seating depth adjustments without installing an extended magazine box. Lugs lock up perfectly and are better than 90% of the factory rifles out there. Trigger is outstanding. Stock feels great and has no flex at the fore end. 26″ barrel is appreciated in this caliber. Recoil lug is nice and thick! Recoil isn’t bad. Bolt cycles very smoothly. Spent shells can hang up unless the bolt is cycled with authority. The bolt handle is short and my hand seems to bump the eyepiece of the scope when shot from the shoulder but it makes for a more compact carry and fits better in a scabbard. First 2 or 3 shots may be sub 1″. After that, it opens up to 2″ or worse. Frankly, I expected better. As a hunting rig, you’ll like it just fine but don’t have high expectations or any confidence that it will hold multiple tight groups at the range without plenty of down time between 3-shot groups. I talked to the repair facility in Missouri about accuracy. In this caliber, they said not to expect better than 2 MOA. There seems to be a major disconnect with Marketing and Operations since Winchester claims that with good optics and quality ammo, sub MOA can be expected. For $1100.00, it should shoot light out but money spent for factory rifles doesn’t necessarily equate into accuracy.

Winchester – FN is really on the right track with these EW Model 70′s. I’d like to see longer magazine boxes and shorter throats. It wouldn’t hurt my feelings either if their Extreme Weather rifles held a 10 shot group but I understand that this isn’t a bench rifle and also appreciate the light carry weight.

Since I handload, I’m having an extended magazine box installed to better adjust the seating depth of the bullets. I’m also bedding the action as the aluminum bedding block still doesn’t insure a perfect fit.

This is a great hunting rifle and as a hunting rig, the compromises are all in the right place. It functions perfectly 100% of the time, is light and will put the first shots where your aiming.

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]]> By: Adam http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/01/04/winchester-model-70-extreme-weather-ss/comment-page-1/#comment-77081 Adam Sat, 12 Nov 2011 12:00:07 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/01/04/winchester-model-70-extreme-weather-ss/#comment-77081 Purchased the Extreme Weather 30-06 - good gun, but barrel is too light and jumps too much to shoot 1" groups. I was using federal match grade, 165 grain factory ammo with Viper PST 4-16x50mm scope. On a Harris bipod or on the rucksack the rifle jumped, causing me to have to re-shift/aim for each shot. The the best I could do was 1 1/2" groups at 100 yds, with far less accuracy at 200 and 300 yds. Good gun, but not precision. Purchased the Extreme Weather 30-06 – good gun, but barrel is too light and jumps too much to shoot 1″ groups. I was using federal match grade, 165 grain factory ammo with Viper PST 4-16x50mm scope. On a Harris bipod or on the rucksack the rifle jumped, causing me to have to re-shift/aim for each shot. The the best I could do was 1 1/2″ groups at 100 yds, with far less accuracy at 200 and 300 yds.

Good gun, but not precision.

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]]> By: Jeff Ford http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/01/04/winchester-model-70-extreme-weather-ss/comment-page-1/#comment-29363 Jeff Ford Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:17:57 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/01/04/winchester-model-70-extreme-weather-ss/#comment-29363 I recently purchased a Mod 70 Extreme Weather 30-06 Springfield from my local FFL dealer. My rifle had no flaws in the finish. I've built some handloads for this rifle and was pleasantly surprised to discover that it liked the Hornady 150 Grain BTSP bullets using H-414. Took the load right out of the Hornady Seventh Edition Manual. The barrel is 22" long which makes the rifle feel very handy for me. I utilized the cannelure provided on the Hornady bullets and applied a modest roll crimp. Anyway, I'm quite happy shooting 1" groups and less. The rifle shoots much better than I can. You won't be disappointed with purchasing this piece if you are looking for a glass smooth bolt action with a really decent trigger. Look out Texas Hogs!!! I recently purchased a Mod 70 Extreme Weather 30-06 Springfield from my local FFL dealer. My rifle had no flaws in the finish. I’ve built some handloads for this rifle and was pleasantly surprised to discover that it liked the Hornady 150 Grain BTSP bullets using H-414. Took the load right out of the Hornady Seventh Edition Manual. The barrel is 22″ long which makes the rifle feel very handy for me. I utilized the cannelure provided on the Hornady bullets and applied a modest roll crimp. Anyway, I’m quite happy shooting 1″ groups and less. The rifle shoots much better than I can. You won’t be disappointed with purchasing this piece if you are looking for a glass smooth bolt action with a really decent trigger. Look out Texas Hogs!!!

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]]> By: Tez http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/01/04/winchester-model-70-extreme-weather-ss/comment-page-1/#comment-12756 Tez Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:46:41 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/01/04/winchester-model-70-extreme-weather-ss/#comment-12756 Thanks for the report. When is the 338WM FN due to hit the streets? One in FW or EW would do me ;) Cheers Thanks for the report.

When is the 338WM FN due to hit the streets?

One in FW or EW would do me ;)

Cheers

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]]> By: John http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/01/04/winchester-model-70-extreme-weather-ss/comment-page-1/#comment-9436 John Sun, 10 May 2009 16:18:50 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/01/04/winchester-model-70-extreme-weather-ss/#comment-9436 I also purchased this rifle in a 30-06 configuration. As Kelly mentioned above, the finish needed a few touch ups. I brought to my local refinishing gunny, and he cleaned it up perfectly. Nothing major minor blemishes in final polishing of stainless steel. I mounted a Bushnell 3-9X50 Firefly Elite 3200 series scope. Perfect 8 1/4 pound configuration with scope and mounts. Bolt is smooth and crisp. I will report back in the next few weeks once I make it to the range. Can hardly wait! Overall build quality is second to none. I was able to get through my local Cabela's. It was my understanding that they had several on hand in the distribution center in Nebraska. So you may still be able to get one in .30-06 or other caliber. If this rifle performs as I think it will, then I will be headed for a .338 Win Mag model 70 very soon! I also purchased this rifle in a 30-06 configuration. As Kelly mentioned above, the finish needed a few touch ups. I brought to my local refinishing gunny, and he cleaned it up perfectly. Nothing major minor blemishes in final polishing of stainless steel. I mounted a Bushnell 3-9X50 Firefly Elite 3200 series scope. Perfect 8 1/4 pound configuration with scope and mounts. Bolt is smooth and crisp. I will report back in the next few weeks once I make it to the range. Can hardly wait! Overall build quality is second to none. I was able to get through my local Cabela’s. It was my understanding that they had several on hand in the distribution center in Nebraska. So you may still be able to get one in .30-06 or other caliber. If this rifle performs as I think it will, then I will be headed for a .338 Win Mag model 70 very soon!

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]]> By: Kelly http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/01/04/winchester-model-70-extreme-weather-ss/comment-page-1/#comment-9362 Kelly Fri, 08 May 2009 16:42:12 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/01/04/winchester-model-70-extreme-weather-ss/#comment-9362 I picked up the Extreme Weather 30-06 the other day, first one I've seen anywhere. They have done a lot right withthis package, a few spots could have been better finished. It is a very compelling light tactical package, waiting for Leupold Mark 2 scope and will report how it shoots. I picked up the Extreme Weather 30-06 the other day, first one I’ve seen anywhere. They have done a lot right withthis package, a few spots could have been better finished. It is a very compelling light tactical package, waiting for Leupold Mark 2 scope and will report how it shoots.

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