Remington Model 700 VTR

The new model 700 Varmint-Tactical Rifle (VTR) is chambered in .204 Ruger, .223 Remington, .22-250 Remington and .308 Win.

 Images Products Firearms Centerfire 700 Vtr 410

A fusion of our most advanced performance features in both tactical and varmint rifles, the new Model 700â„¢ Varmint-Tactical Rifle (VTRâ„¢) is a revolutionary system optimized for extended-range precision and mobility. Its triangular barrel contour is a product of years of rigorous research and development focused on reducing weight, enhancing rigidity and promoting rapid heat dissipation.

To decrease recoil and muzzle jump, this uniquely contoured 22″ barrel has an integral muzzle brake that’s machined-in during production. Along with the new barrel design, we brought together a host of other cutting-edge features on our super accurate Model 700 platform. The results are nothing short of astounding.

More here.

UPDATE

NONYA posted a great photo in the comments below

Vtrcammo





Steve Johnson

Founder and Dictator-In-Chief of TFB. A passionate gun owner, a shooting enthusiast and totally tacti-uncool. Favorite first date location: any gun range. Steve can be contacted here.


Advertisement

  • Trent

    After several years of operating the M24 in the army I decided to purchase my own precision weapon system, due to the fact that the army frowns upon you for taking their’s home to shoot. So far all I’ve had time to do is get accustom to the feel of the system, but I will say that the rifle it’s self is very balanced. As for the new trigger, I have one word, “CRISP”. Shot anticipation is almost impossible. By the time you get to you natural pause and try to pull the non-existant slack out you’re already calling the shot. I’ll comment again after my first set of groups.

  • Hi Trent, thanks for the comment. Please let us know what it is like after your first groups. Also, how do your groups compare with the M24 system?

  • Marty

    Looking forward to hearing more about the Remington 700 VTR. I like this rifle and researching other sites for info as well. Thanks for the info so far.

  • Pat

    Hi,
    I have a .308 VTR on order. Please let me know how you did with yours. Any improvements,etc. You seem experienced so I’d like to know your impression on the rifle.
    Thanks,
    Pat

  • Saw and handled one of these in Las Cruces at Sportsmans Warehouse. All I can say is ooooooooooohhhhhhh, YES! Damn that thing is sweet.

  • Pat

    I just bought a VTR in 308. Waiting for my scope ( Burris 4-14) and rings,etc to come in. I’ll let you know.

  • Bill

    I am looking at purchasing a Remington 700 SPS Tactical in .308. Any comments on the rifle itself? Also any advice on affordable but effective scopes? It’s a $500 – $600 rifle so the scope needs to be value for money just like the rifle.

    As well I’d like to hear from anyone who has fired the 700 SPS Varmint (long barrel). The 700 SPS Tactical (short barrel) is reported to be sub .5 MOA out of the box at 100 yds. How does it do at distance compared to the SPS Varmint?

    Any other thoughts or suggestions feel free, I’m just starting out.

  • I am no expert on scopes. Most of the shooting in my lifetime has been done without a scope, although I am using scopes more and more these days. The only advice I can give is don’t buy a budget scope, or if you do, buy it with the intent to replace it as soon as funds allow. If you do purchase the Varmint barreled model, then you really want a good scope to take advantage of its accuracy.

  • ShakeNBaker

    I just purchased the VTR in 223 caliber and absolutly love it. I added the new Bushnell Elite 3200 Tactical Scope with mil dot recticle and it is a nail driver. The only thing i found that is remotely wrong is that the stock has some issues with pressure points on the barrel. Remington does issue their rifles with a build up pressure point in the front right tip of the stock. Now, for me this caused maybe one bullet to stray a tad bit from the rest. i feel it was the first cold barrel shot and once the barrel moved it was on the money every time. My new rifle is going to kill tons of yotes and prairie dogs in the near future and i persuade you to get one if you already havent.

  • NONYA

    Bought one in .308,added a Bushnell elite 10x mildot ,harris bipod and an extended magwell.Already shooting sub MOA with Magtech 150 gr bulk ammo.
    [IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y7/H3RP3S/vtrcammo.jpg[/IMG]

  • ShakeNBaker, thanks for your comment!

    NONYA, great photo. I have added it to the blog.

  • nevertofar

    i just bout the .223 vtr wasnt that impressed with the loads.does any one recommend a particular one

  • Ryo

    I recently got a VTR in 223 and wrote a review on my blog. Check it out at:

    http://tgfblog.wordpress.com/2008/03/04/remington-700-vtr-review/

  • Great review Ryo. I hope we will see a lot more gun content in the future.

  • Marty G

    Had good luck with 25 grns.h335 with a 55sxsp shoots in the 5-6 range ocl was 2.290 rem 7 1/2 primer.PS I filed the contact points off the stock,the sxsp seem to shoot better than the v-max bullets. Did get 40 grain V-maxs to shoot fairly well.

  • Thanks for the info Marty

  • ShakeNBaker

    Im a college student but took off on my spring break and a buddy and i went to western kansas to shoot some prairie dogs. I was pretty excited to try out my new vtr. Up to this point i had shot 2 coyotes and a bob cat with it and was very impressed with its accuracy. I was very impressed with my rifle in Kansas. Shooting some 55 grain hornady reloads and also some bulk 55 grain federal hollow points i easity hit dogs up to 300 yrds. The bushnell Elite scope with the mill dot recticle made it easy to compensate for the 10 mph crosswind. Overall its my favorite rifle in the safe and it will be taking another trip to kansas soon this summer.

  • Tim

    I bought the VTR in .308 a couple months ago and really like my rifle. Every time I take it to the range, I get at least a couple questions about it from passing admirers. Even the seasoned vets that work at the range are curious about the triangular barrel. I have tried several different brands of ammo and surprisingly have had the best accuracy with the 150 grain Winchester ammo that you can get at Walmart for $15 a box. I made the mistake of buying a lower end Nikon scope and can only imagine how accurate the gun would be with higher quality scope. The barrel cools down pretty quickly and the recoil is not too bad. Although, my inexperienced buddy managed to split his brow open while holding the scope too close to his eye. Cannot wait to take it hunting.

  • It is a great looking gun. I was admiring one in a gun shop last week.

  • Tim

    Great blog! I have been looking for peole who have experience with bolt action 223’s. I have already fallen in love with the VTR from an ammo, handling and looks perspective. A pal of mine has the Rem 700 SPS in .204…nice but I want to be able to shoot standard 55 grain bullets while at the range or out doggin out west. Keep up the good work on your blog. I’ll check back often.

  • Thanks Tim. I am pleased you are enjoying the blog.

  • Marty G

    Just got done with a OCL test my VTR in 223 shoots best .005 off the riflings,best group to date .365 with 60 grain v-max and H335 powder. I did add a Sims viberation dampener to the gun.My name is Marty and Iam a gunohaulic.

  • I am jealous 🙂 I think if I had the money for another bolt gun I would go for the VTR. It looks great.

  • Fur-Buster

    I just bought a VTR in 22-250 and love it, I am going to bust some yotes this weekend

  • Paul

    I have the VTR in 22-250 and really like it. It is surprisingly light. I have not done any serious bench testing so won’t comment on accuracy. I will say that the ported barrell is both good and bad. Recoil is greatly reduced, but noise is greatly increased.

  • Graeme

    G’day there.

    After waiting over 2 months now (for police firearms clearance) I will finally be picking up my VTR in .223 Does anyone have any suggestions on which grain bullet i should use. Im Primarily shooting dingo’s and Kangaroo’s but occasionally have to shoot camels.

    Thanks for any advice.

  • Hi Graeme, I don’t think I have ever seen a camel but they look pretty big in photos, I don’t think a .223 would be the best cartridge to use on them.

  • Graeme

    Have been using my bosses .22 Hornet with 45 grain projectiles. They are effective on camel but you have to get then just right. So ive been considering the 55 grain for the .223 hoping it packs a bit more punch.

  • A 55gr .223 could give you 1,282 ft/lb of energy compared with 776 ft/lb of a 45gr .22 hornet!

  • Graeme

    Sounds like a bit of a step up from the hornet, do you know what the effective range of the 55gr would be? and any suggestions of soft points over balistic tips. Another shooter i was talking to steered me away from 55gr Balistic Federal factory loads they just seemed to go all over the place with the occasional one right on target.

  • I don’t know what kind of selection you have in AU but should give at least a few different brands a try to see what your gun likes. Each firearm is individual.

  • Graeme

    Cheers for the info, if it goes well i will let ya know and if it dosn’t well i will probably be back trying to figure out what im doing wrong.

  • Good luck. Let us know how it goes.

  • lockie

    hey guys,
    good blog steve.
    its the eve before i pick up my vtr from the gunshop! cant wait.
    like shakenbaker im putting a bushnell elite with mildot on it. after some groups tomoz arvo if weather is good, it will be out on the foxes over the weekend and chase some rabbits too.
    then in 2 weeks il be taking her up on a pigging and roo (on license) trip up northern nsw and southern qld.
    cant wait, it looks v.sexy just hope it shoots well!
    il pop back in again and see if i can add something constructive.
    cheers fellas.

  • Sounds like fun! Let us know how it goes 😀

  • jjcurb

    I’ve had a hold on a vtr in.223 for 4 days now. i really liked the gun but didn’t now alot about it.so i did a lil research,some liked it some didn’t.after reading the blogs on your website i’m going down to sportsmans warehouse in rocklin ca. to get the paper work going.thank for all the posts, nice blogers here (not alot of knowitall donkeys). i’ll let you know what i think when i get the time to shoot it.btw i’m suffering from gun-fever anybody know of any meds for that or a possible cure?ahhhh never mind…i’ll sweat it out…lol

  • Graeme

    G’day Again,

    Well all i can say is I love this rifle, It has already proven itself shooting roo’s but the other day it managed to bowl over 8 camels. The car was skidding round and empty shells were flying everywhere but it was a good day. I tend to favor the Fiocchi 55gr rounds as they are resonably priced and pretty well spot on target only complaint is without ear protection that left ear cops a real flogging from the muzzle break.

    catch ya

  • Graeme, I am pleased it is working out for you 🙂

  • Chip

    I’m looking at the VRT in .308 for white tail deer in Michigan. Plus some target fun. What do you think? Am I barking up the wrong tree?

    Chip

  • AlamoJon

    I have recently bought the VTR in 22-250 with a Leupold scope (4-12x40mm) and I shoot a 50gr bullet. Although I have not shot any Coyotes with it yet and I am looking forward to see how it does, I have shot a rabbit at little over 600 yards(scope was set at 100 yards) so I am very pleased with the accuracy of the rifle. The muzzle break does make the rifle significantly louder and keeps the barrel from going upwards after a shot so you can quickly see what you have hit.

  • gary@ny

    Just bought the VTR,22-250 put a Leupold 4.5-14×50 w/tall rings. I love this gun! i can shoot this all day long. Its gotta be one of the coolest looking guns. With the muzzel-break barrel ,there’s hardly no kick and man is it fast! Im shooting federal 55 grain. ive put over 100 rounds through it and just cant shoot it enough!!!

    • Tyler

      Hay I was wondering if anybody could help me out I just bought a VTR in a 204 and can’t get it to group under 2inch at 100yards. Does anybody no what is the best factory round for it??

  • Had my VTR 308 for 5 months now, realy great to use 1/2″ groups off the tripod, 150Gr sst hornady Win-748 48Grains and 165 Gr sst win-748 46 Grains , it does not like Fedral 150 Gr 4″groups, Its great to use off hand as well,not heavey, have shot plenty of roo’s and rabbits> my other 308 is a wheatherby Mk V 308 it’s great too, have a hard time picking which to pick up for the day. I also hunt with a Ruger MK11 204
    realy great for rabbits and crows, and will drop a roo easy enough, I just do not like the way it ejects useing the blade under the bolt as it some times misses the cartrig, and you have to push the bolt forward then back again to eject ??, loads hornady 32gr VMax win-748 31gr, 40grains, VMax win-748 29.5grains, I wont use federal primers again with it to soft,and blow out, Winchester have been ok and do not show any sign of strees.

    Bruce http://www.gotools.com.au

  • Scott

    Just purchased a VTR in 308 a month ago. Put a Bushnell Elite 4200 4x16x40 on it. Got a chance to take it to the range today w/ 4 diffferent types of ammo. Shot from a bench using sand bags and cleaned the bore before each switching ammo.

    Rem Core Lokt Ultra 150 grain. Great at 50 yards, useless at 100. Cheep for sighting in is the best I can say. Dont get me wrong this stuff will shoot 1 inch groups at 100 yards through my 700 classic. However the 1 in 12 twist in the VTR did not like it.

    Federal Gold Medal 168 grain Serria Match King. 3 shot group at 100 yards could be covered with a penny. Two of the 3 shots were touching.

    Hornaday 168 grain Serria Match King. Once again 3 shots could be covered with a penny. Over all a little tighter grouping but left a lot more powder residue behind.

    Hornaday 168 grain A-Max. 5 shot group all in the 10 ring or abot 1 1/2 inch group. Probably could have done better if but the sholder was starting to get a little tender. Figure this will work good for deer and save the match kings for the range.

    Over all a very impressive of the shelf rifle. Could use the trigger lightened up a little though….

  • cookie

    I LOVE THE LOOKS AND EVERYTHING ABOUT THE VTR. BUT THE CALABER I WOULD LIKE A 30.06 OR A 7MM MAG WILL THEY BE MAKEING IT IN THESE CALABERA?

  • s togieman

    Just got the vtr in 223 and went to the range w/ a boat load of rem umc 55g. ammo.
    I have to say, I was very dissapointed with the results. I shot in perfect conditions, no wind, great light, etc. I have a Burris 3.5 X 10 in 50mm. My 5 shot group ranged from 1.5 to 3.00 inches, Most in the 2 inch range. My Marlin semi-auto .22 shoots better groups and it’s 45 years old.
    The trigger pull is crisp but a little heavy for my perforance. BTW, a couple other shooters had the same results. I hoped they would do worse, I’ve been bench rest shooting for 20 yrs. lol.
    Anyway, at this point, I’m really concerned about the potential accuracy as a result of it’s radical design. Going to try different bullets/reloads to see if this thing can shoot. But I have to say, I’ve never had a center fire rifle shoot so poorly, regardless of ammo.
    I’m hoping this gun is EXTREMELY picky about the ammo.

    I’ll keep you posted.

  • s togieman, let us know how you get on with it.

  • james

    Bought vtr .308 and love it. shot 3 shots and could barely see the cut out of the 2nd and 3rd shot from the first bullet hole at 100 yards. fixin to buy 2 more in .204.gotta love those remingtons, own several 700’s.

  • SGM Phil

    I also bought a VTR in .308. I dropped a NightForce tactical scope on it and went to town. Great groups out of the box with M852 ammo. I like the looks of the rifle and the size/weight/balance is great for running amok in the woods or rooftops – whatever your desire. In my opinion, you can’t go wrong with this rifle.

  • james

    love the 308vtr, so today we ordered three in .204.the 308 has zeiss conquest 6-18×50.will put cabelas tactical scope for 204, 6-18×40.have on of those scopes on .17 and really like it.will post back when i get the gun and shoot it.

  • GUN MAN

    I have both the .223 and the .308. I first got the .223 and had some unbelievble luck in finding a load after the third load. I loved the feel so much I got one in the .308 For info. All guns I buy for my “Family” and put in my house
    ‘Gun Safe” i go through a rigourous 1 shot 1 clean process for the first 50 rounds and then every 3rd from ther . After about 70 or so you can really see the groups tighten. for the .223 i found a 62 grn botail with 23.8grns of r15 and cci bench primers left me wondering where the other 4 rounds went until i went to the target. The .308 I used 68 grn boat tail with 43.5 grns benchmark and cci benchrest primers. All cases both caliber where rem new i annealed them both and used no crimp The .223 worked best at .0009 f the lands and the .308 was best at leavine extra about .0010. I will be trying out some loads this weekend with some once fired necked only brass at the same loads and will try to report back . Great info on here thanks and hope this might help some too

  • Landon

    excellent group, ppl. recently score my possession license (canada) and am now convinced in the VTR chambered in a .308. thx for all the helpful info, again very informed ppl here, no egos here.

  • Harvey

    Is it unheard of to go whitetail hunting with a VTR 22-250? I am looking for a rifle to shoot long distance. Did’nt know if its to light of caliber for the job. The only game I saw in these blogs, was camel!

  • Ryan

    The 22-250 is fine for deer hunting. You just have to place your shot well (goes with any hunting). My brother has taken many deer and hogs with his 700BDL 22-250.

    I am thinking about grabbing one of these VTR’s in 22-250 myself. Trying to figure out a way to get the wife’s approval.

  • john

    just got my vtr in 22-250, after going over the rifle i found the barrel is touching the stock in the front, on the two pads. should i file these pads off for better accuracy??

  • Dave

    I am currently looking into buying a VTR. but i’m not sure wether or not the VTR is better than the SPS in the 308 cal. I don’t want to pay more just because it’s the newest thing .. also what would be the best ammo for deer hunting at 100 to 350 yards?

  • My VTR 308 Loves Hornady 150Gr SST Win-748 x 48Grains and 165 Gr SST win-748 x 46 Grains , 1/2 groups at 100 meters from both and perfect for Sambar Deer x 1, Roo’s x 27, and when board Rabbits x17 for fun.I have put 200 rounds thru now and it only gets better, I use the same loads in my Weatherby Mk 5 and it saves a lot of testing VERY HAPPY with the VTR out of the box

  • cookie

    DEER IS IN FOR TWO WEEKS IN PENNSYLVANIA I HAVE A 308 IN THE VTR I GOT A 10 POINTER. I SHOT HIM AT 300 YARDS. I HAVE A 6 TO 18 POWER SCOPE ON THE GUN . I USED A 165 GRAN HORNADY AMMUNITION THE GUN IS RIGHT ON. WERE HE WAS HIT IS WERE HE DROPED AND DID NOT GET UP. THIS IS THE BEST DEER GUN I EVER OWENED.

  • Rick

    I just got a Remington 700 VTR, in 22-250. I put a Leupold VX – III 4.5-14×40 LR with a varmit reticle. I’ll be using it for coyote and wolf up here in Alaska. I’ll be breaking it in with Remington UMC 45Gr JHP.
    I’ll post the results.

  • Stogieman

    Well the saga continues. I called the factory and they recommended I send the gun to a factory authorized repair shop. I called one and explained my issue. They recommended that I try several different ammos before bringing it in. I shot 10 different kinds of round ranging from 55g to 69g and everything shot poorly in ideal conditions. After each 5 shot group I would clean the bore with copper removing solvent and let the gun cool. Had several others shoot with the same or worse results. So back to Remington it went. It’s been there 8 weeks; no word yet. I’ll keep you posted.

  • I love my VTR 308 But hate my RUGER
    Hy I purchased a Ruger m77 Mk11 march 2008, and have nothing but trouble trying to have it repaired or chaned over as it fails to eject empty or loaded rounds, and I returned it to the gun shop and showed them the fault and they retuned it to the Ruger distribiter here in australia who replaced the extractor BUT damaged the face of the bolt while doing the repair this only took about 7 weeks I took it to the range and IT WAS the same, they have now had it in there possesion for longer than I now 23/12 08, it finaly returned today and guess what they had polished the bolt.
    On test at the gun shop rather than going to the rang, every body was impreesed with the way it did not EJECT and so here I am with no gun and my holidays wasted again thank you RUGER if any one would like I can email a short video to them omdi@tpg.com.au I think I have owned my last RUGER I am sure I can get better service
    PS I am not new to guns I have had many rifels and shoot guns in my life time but never had this expirence before and am interested if any one else have had a problem with RUGER’s
    Yours Bruce

  • Rick

    I fired 13 rounds of ammo, I know – unlucky number. However, trying to just get it tuned in, at 25 yards, I was able to fire 2 rounds into the area of a 209 shotgun primer. I ran out of targets so I drew 5 circles using the base of a 12ga. round. So far, I am very pleased with it. I will get a running talley on the performance.

  • roadwarrior

    Graeme: You may find Federal Power-shok 64g soft points are better suited for your camels. I find the 1:9 twist likes these rounds much better than the 55g lighter rounds.

    I haven’t been dropping anything the size of a camel though.

    rw

  • Rick

    Has anyone come up with a good load for 22-250? I’m afraid the 45gr HP is going to tear up the hides to much. I’ll be trying to harvest Lynx, Coyotes, and wolves.

  • Graeme

    roadwarrior:cheer’s for the info, will probably give them a go next time im buying ammo, currently have been handloading 55gr and 50gr softpoints so far i prefer the lighter rounds they are still effective on the big game and is spot on on longer shots, i find there is minimal drop over 300mtrs but strong winds do throw then a bit at that distance, so i guess i can only give it a go and see what happens.

    Graeme

  • roadwarrior

    Graeme: If you were made of money you could buy Rem AccuTip 55g rounds. Much better over long distances and yet still able to drop big targets. At $35 a box though you wouldn’t want to waste them.

    If you are handloading though I’m sure you could get similar rounds and load yourself. How much would is cost you to handload 20 of your softpoints?

    rw

  • kwelsh

    I recently bought a VTR in 22-250.It is replacing the M-77 as my field gun. I handload everything that I shoot and recently started to get flyers with the VTR. I’m figuring that my flyers are a result of bullet depth, to much speed and barrel floating issues. I loaded some barnes 50 grn varmint grenades only to find out through research and phone calls that 1 in 14 is not tight enough for the bullet, even though their data says that the barrel used to get loading data was 1 in 14. 1 in 10 is required to stabilize their bullets down in my size. I plan to do the full on bench test with 52 grn A-max, 50 grn V-max and 50 grn berger varmint HP. Powders will be IMR4895, H380 and H335. Bullet depths will be from on the lands to .010 off. I am going to do a little shaving on the stock contact points. The A-max and berger bullets are supposed to stay true with 1 in 14 twist rates. We will see and I will post.

  • Graeme

    roadwarrior: 20 rounds of 55gr soft points costs me around $8 to make using sierra spitzler projectiles, Adi benchmark 2 powder and magtech primers and recylcling my used factory loaded cases of a random variety the only ones i dont like are the Fiocchi cases as they have a annoying crimp over the primer pocket but thats fixable. Using 25gr of powder get around 3200ftps and when loading 50gr projectiles with 26gr of powder gets up to 3400ftps.

    Did try the Rem AccuTip 55g at first and a winchester variety liked the ballistic tip, does its job well but like you say factory loads like that are a bit costly. In the next few weeks i will be trying sierra 50gr Blitzking ballistic tips and a few 55gr full metal jackets, everyone’s told me to steer clear of the fmj’s but through lack of experience im keen to give everything a go and they are like half the prive of all the other projectiles.

    Graeme

  • Dave

    ok boys and girls, i finally got to shoot my vtr 308 and i’m going to have to use a condom next time i shoot it.. lol i’m in-love. though i did have to sight it in at 25 yrds due to a very very poor job of someone bore-sighting it. now it’s shooting under a 1/2″ at 100 yards using 68 gr sierra match federal gold. the vented stock works very well, the barrel never got warm at all. And as far as accuracy, it can’t be beat for the price. there is definately little kick due to the muzzle-break. and it just looks bad-asssssss. i due suggest turning down the trigger. i have mine at a little less than 2 lbs. and it’s very crisp. anyone who was thinking of getting one… go for it…

  • kwelsh

    Eight hours of shooting and cleaning, three powders, four bullet combos, and three bullet depths. The winner for tight group varmint bullet is Berger’s 50 grain varmint match with 39 grains H 380 with the bullet touching the lans. Group was .73 inches at 100 yards with 83 degrees F and 5 MPH tail wind. Second was 35 grains IMR 4895, same bullet depth with the same bullet. Group was 1.1 inches. A MAX and V MAx were all over the place with the tightest group at 1.85 inches and 2.15 respectively. Anyone with any other info, I would love to try it. Thanks in advance. Oh, the barnes 36 grain GRENADE with 40 grains H 380 had a 1.6 inch group.

  • mike

    I bought a 700 VTR in .308 today. going to go shooting tomorrrow. has anyone found a good reload. I shoot .55gr boat tail hollow points in my .223WSSM and like them alot, thinking about trying them in the VTR. Any reccomendations.

  • michael

    I got my VTR just after Christmas and i love her.
    Some people out there are not fans of the new looks but i think its sweet. I also see Remington is bringing one out in Desert cam.
    Michael

  • john

    kwelsh, did the shaving on the stock and pressure points help? i also bought one in22-250 and i am having a hard time getting it to shoot. rem sent me a new stock to see if the up pressure was messed up. the new stock seemed to help some but i am still not statisfied with the groups

  • kwelsh

    John, I cleaned out the stock from the chamber area forward as well as the two pads at the very front of the stock. The stock seemed to be flimsy but the groups did tightened. The main problem with groups were corrected with bullet type and powder as I stated when I previously wrote. 1 in 14 twist is a slow twist for smaller bullets and weights. My previous 22-250 was 1 in 10 and was extremely accurate. The groups I got with the previous writing will still stone coyotes at 300 yards. Hope this helps, let me know.

  • Carey

    What is the most accurate ammo to use with the .308 VTR. I’m looking for the best group for hunting deer both at close and longe range. Can someone please help.

  • CR Riddell, PE

    I am a professional structural engineer. In 1977, I was granted a patent on a structural system that uses triangular cross-section members with a circular cross-section hole down the middle. Remington’s VTR barrel is identical to that shape. The objective of this shape is to maximize structural force transmission with a minimum of mass.

    During development of the concept, I established that the triangular cross-section provides the maximum surface area for a given enclosed volume. This accounts for the Remington heat dissipation claim/feature. Removing the mass along the central axis leaves the mass in the three corners at a maximum distance from the central axis. This maximizes the axial compression rigidity and the torsional rigidity, also a Remington claim/feature. The torsional rigidity promotes stability under the influence of the rifling twist, a special benefit in a rifle barrel. Flexural stiffness is optimal for downward bending of the muzzle end in the orientation Remington uses in the stock; one corner up and two corners down. That puts the top corner in tension and the bottom corners in compression, where buckling concerns reduce the allowable load-carrying capacity.

    All this techno-mumb-jumbo counts for doodly, unless the holes in the target get chummy and cuddle up together. As with all accuracy discussions, the teamwork between barrel, bedding, and ammo gives a unique performance result. This must be where Remington spent its advertised years in development.

    Obviously, the manufacturer cannot control the customer’s choice of rounds, so they have to shoot for a statistical middle, so to speak. But the bedding is another story. Remington advertises a multi-point mount, not free-floating or glass bedding. This would be crucial for taming the harmonics in concert with the unique tension-vs-compression qualities of the barrel shape.

    Thoretically, this barrel should be better than round, but the industrial wisdom and inertia is all compiled for round. Some tuning is required.

    • CR, very interesting. I will post your comment as a individual blog post later today!

  • kwelsh

    Shot in a “Varmint Bench” shoot with my VTR 22-250 at my local club this past weekend. Took first and second at the 100 yard competition. The 200 yard comp got a little more competitive. 100 yard groups were .724 and .795. Was praised for shooting such groups with a “utility gun” on a harris bi-pod with a slight breeze while everyone else was clamped and vised. Renewed my faith in this “UTILITY” gun.

  • james

    got my vtr .223 late summer 2008 for coyotes leupold 3×9 high hopes excellent size drab color everything i looked for in a walking calling rifle tried many times with many different loads to get a group under 2 inches moa finally after removing the stock clearing away much of the plastic in order to “free-float” the trianlge barrel suddenly 0.5-0.75 inch showed up on paper another issue has anyone else noticed the scarring on brass from the magazine “lips” having a burr it after some time with a file that issue was resolved guess what i’m sayin is its a great rifle if you’re willing to pick up where R&D left off!

  • mogulmaker

    I have been looking at the VTR for a little while now, It is a nice looking gun and Iwill likely buy one. Thanks to all of you who posted , its nice to get answers to some my questions with out even asking.

    mogulmaker

  • Rob

    is the 22-250 VTR a easy weapon to keep clean?

  • kwelsh

    The VTR is as simple as any rifle I’ve owned to clean. If the barrel is broken in properly especially. After 50 or so rounds mine breaks down, brushed, copper cleaned and lubed thoroughly in about 20 minutes start to finish.

  • nunzio

    will be getting my vtr end of next month. since i reload .223 for my ar, will stay with that cal. nice to read all the inputs. great site, no egos.

  • Jimbo

    To begin, I’ve always been an automatic or a lever guy and haven’t had the time or the need to do much hunting since i was a kid so this is my first bolt rifle in 20 years or so. I was looking for a rifle that can hit paper and yotes without having to sandbag. Because of the useful, clear and friendly comments in this forum i was able make my decision.

    I had narrowed my search to the VTR and the win model 70 coyote lite (both the 700 and the 70 are very solid platforms). Today I brought home my new VTR in a .308. The best part was when my wife grabbed it and said thanks for the late valentines day gift (love this women) so i at least don’t have to sneak it into the budget. 😀

    The only concerns i have are as follows:

    The stock, it just feels flimsy and it doesn’t seem to allow for a floating barrel. it is comfortable when gloved but bare handed, i don’t like the rubberized pads. I’m used to plastic or carbon fiber on autos but i guess i’m a purest for wood on bolt rifles. Any recommendations for something more solid with an aluminum bedding or any other ideas?

    The bolt is sloppy ass hell, it seats well when locked but i wonder if i can expect any feed issues or am i just being paranoid?

    Other than that, I’m jazzed and can’t wait to get it away from my wife long enough to put some lead out there.

    Any recommendations on optics?

  • Jimbo

    AS hell, sorry about the typo.

  • bigboreontarget

    Picked up my vtr in 308 today, rushed it home to put on a nikon buckmasters series 4x12x50 then to the range. Put two boxes of lead through it and was very pleased with the rifle but not so much on the ammo. i shot remington umc 150gr and american eagle 150gr both fmj. i am looking for some cheap rounds that can give me some better results, hoping somone can tell me where to find some bthp or anything with consistant accuracy for 25$ or under

  • Joe

    I was wondering if this vtr can shoot 5.56 fmj 55 grain. I recently came into a boat load of 5.56 and I am hoping that my vtr can shoot it. If not they will all go thru my mini 14
    thanx for and help

  • IronhandJohn

    I picked up a used VTR in .223 at a gun show last December. It was wearing a Nikon 4.5×14 Buckmasters scope in Leupold rings/bases. A bit of finish wear on the muzzle, but that was it for visible wear.

    $600 for all of it out-the-door.

    So far we’ve only shot 26 year old S. African 55gr. FMJ surplus out of the rifle, but it seems to keep all shots in a 1-1.25″ group@ 100 meters. I’m sure it’ll do better with better ammo, but I sold all my .223 Match ammo 3 months before I found this rifle…..Grr… The magazine will even hold 2, but no more, 80gr. VLD’s a friend loaded for us. Haven’t tried them out yet, as we only have 100-150 meters to shoot…

  • nunzio

    I’m picking up my .223 tomorrow. Any advice on a scope?

  • Chip

    I’m happy with my Nikon Bushmaster 4.5-14×40 (BRA00506) but I am by no means an expert. It was on sale at Gander Mountain last year and I am a Nikon fan with cameras.

  • bigboreontarget

    as far as scopes go i was very happy with my Barska varminter scope but changed it out for my nikon buckmaster for a more hunting worthy performance. best idea for a scope is to look at what you need the scope to do and go to a local shop and look thru as many as you can and go with what your eyes tell you

  • Allen

    Does anyone know if the .308 VTR comes in lefthanded?

  • Tony C

    Does anyone know if the Remington 700 VTR or the new desert camo come in a left handed version? I looked on the Remington website and it does not appear to be offered. Thanks in advance. Maybe it’s coming??

  • Tank

    Following in the same questioning. I’m looking for aftermarket stock for the VTR. Does anyone know if they are offered. I’m also a left handed shooter.

  • Taiko

    Camo does not come left handed at this time. I just got a 308 in yesterday. I asked my vendor.

  • Taiko

    Any problems with the 700 VTR can be taken to Gander Mountain and Bass Pro Shop. They are certified and can deal direct with remington and get results faster.

  • Tim B.

    I bought a Remington VTR in 308cal. last year for a hunting rifle. Just wondering if there is any way to change the floor plate magazine to a detachable clip?

  • bigboreontarget

    not at this time tim, the only magazine conversion available is for the long action model 700, but there is one in the works said to be released later this year

  • pat hanson

    the vtr 308 is a great shooting gun one of the best i have ever had 3 inch groups 300 yards with wolf ammo that tells the story right there. see you at the pondarosa gun club

  • josh

    I would like to cut the muzzlebrake off at the machined cut nearest the action of my VTR .22-250 in an attempt to cut down the noise exposure at the butt of the firearm. Has anyone done this and will it impact accuracy?

    Has anyone tried complete freefloating the barrel or glass bedding to improve accuracy?

  • Roadwarrior

    Everything I’ve read about floating the barrel says not to do it. The old saying applies “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it”. Accuracy out of the box is amazing, and a proper hunting rifle needs the support. If you are purely target shooting it might help, but I wouldn’t fiddle with it when it’s not required.

    I’ve also considered removing the muzzle break and I’ve only got a .223. Would like to know if this mod has been performed.

    rw

  • Trent

    the first time i picked this gun up i was in love with the weight balance and the overall design of this gun and i am itching to get one. but i was wondering if anyone had bought one in a .204 caliber and was wondering what there thoughts were on it so if i could get some feedback on it i would really appreciate it!

  • Donald

    I have been reading alot of bad reviews on the Remington 700 VTR after i bought one and all i have to say is those so called shooters are dead wrong its a great accurate weapon system.

  • steve doane

    great blog!! ive just purchased a 700vtr in the 204cal i put on a bushnell 6×24 what a rifle!! in the first week i had five coyotes 2 were at three hundred yards and running away i cant belive how acurate this rifle is

  • JSE

    I have pushed 180 rounds through my .22-250 vtr. All were purchased loads ranging from Hornady, Winchester, and Remington in various bullet styles and weights. The best 100 yard group I have been able to get is 1.75 inches from solid benchrest. I have noticed the the front of the stock is very flimsy and accuracy starts to suffer after the first 3 rounds through the gun. Has anyone encountered this accuracy issue and have you been able to resolve it?

    I do alot of hunting and will use the rifle for shots reaching out to 300 yards: a four to six inch group at 300 yards just isn’t acceptable. Other than accuracy, I love the little gun.

  • JD

    JSE I had similar problem when i first started breaking mine in . I have both .223 and .308 . The .308 is what i am talking about. I first “and some will disagree” took the dremel out and let the barrell fully float. I glass bedded sone mag rods the lenth of which i removed polymer to help with what i took away. I also used standard run of the mill two part epoxy for the bedding. Lubed barrel preset in let epoxy cure re tightened and the same ammo before that went a flyer after 4-5th rounds was nonexistint. I further used David Tubbs accuracy fire lapping bulletts and load my own to now have a single hole at 100 yards. best group with 168grn bthp @ 600 yrds is 3.5″ using R-15 I take alot of time in prep and loads of my rounds and believe that it pays off. I wouldnt fret contact rem and ask them if not and your willing to this worked well for me.

  • bigboreontarget

    as far as the accuracy goes, i now own a 223 and 308 vtr and both shot great after minor break in using final finish ammo for the first box, i have put over 500 rounds thru both guns and they seem to seemd to have “problems” (3 inch groups) from 200 and 300 yards until about 200 rounds with extensive cleaning… just keep with it and im sure it will only get better

  • Joeyfass

    I have had my VTR in .308 for awhile now and had a chance to put about 200 rounds through it at various lengths. I matched it with a Nikon 14-20 Monarch scope with the BDC.
    I can say as far as the balance and feel of the rifle I love it.
    The scope is very clear though with such a magnification it doesn’t give you much of a window to look through.
    The rifle itself seems very picky about what rounds it shoots. The first of which I tried were Winchester Premium Nickel casing, Moly Coated.
    With these I was achieveing 3shot groups inside a quarter at 100 yards and groups of about 3-4 inches at 320 yards without a lead-sled just the bi-pod. These were the 168 grain.
    Next I had gotten some ppny cheap ammo for free and decided to put that through it. Though it was also 168 grain it seemed to drop very fast.
    I had to adjust about 27 clicks or 3 1/2 minutes just to bring it on to target. It wouldn’t group at all!
    The rifle does kick like a mule for some reason and, it is noticeably louder than my friend’s .308.
    I’ve never tried anything as big as a camel, but I’m looking forward to some hogs.

  • KDS

    Excellent blog ! I’ve just stumbled apon it. Great to see so many VTR fans & read your comments!
    I got my VTR in 308 when they were first released here in Australia, about 1 1/2 years ago. Saw the first pictures & after I picked one up just had to have one. Balance is excellent.
    Mines got a Bushnell Elite 6500 4.5-30x mil-dot scope (which is excellent & leaves my Leos for dead) and now its my preferred rifle for pretty well everything. I’ve put about 600 rounds down it and now only use Remington Premier Acutip 165g (boat tails). This rifle is made for heavier amo – with that 1 in 12 twist. Anything lighter, and its a pretty average rifle. With these its an absolute tack driver – plus this amo drops everything I’ve shot quickly & cleanly right up to decent sized pigs.
    I can shoot sub 1″ @100 yards all day with it (shooting off the bipod) – and I definitely don’t pretend to be “the worlds greatest shot”…agree 100% with Joeyfass at 300+ yards too.
    When I hunt I like to play sniper – and pick the prey off from as far away as possible. With the set up I have I confidently take the head shot – almost – every time.
    Mine used to suffer from the “cold barrel wanders” – which was very frustrating as that’s the shot that counts most after 2 hours of walking… but I replaced the factory stock with a Hogue #70012 and it disappeared. I think getting rid of the contact points (floated barrel) was the cure.
    In summary many of you above have found the same things as me.
    My humble advice is definitely buy a VTR – if you haven’t already,plus – and this goes for all rifles.
    a) Put a good scope on it !
    b) If you want to shoot well don’t use cheap amo and complain that the rifle doesn’t shoot properly.

  • Kevin

    I have had my VTR Desert Recon in 308 for about 2 months now! Its an extraordinary rifle. 155 gr SST will hit an aspirin at 200 yds easy. Put a Leupold 6.5 x 20 x 40mm with 1/4 moa mil dots and target nobs. Have taken her out to 800 yds and she answers consistently. Will be shooting some pigs with her in a couple of weeks, hopefully at 600 to 800 yds. The trigger is very crisp, actually takes some time to get use to. Highly recommend this rifle. Only down side, all my other guns in the safe are jealous!

  • Dave

    I love to hear so many people think this rifle is great! I’ve had my VTR .308 for close to a year and a half and I honestly could never replace it. This gun is everything a hunter and/or target shooter could ever want in a rifle. And a much cheaper cost than most of the nicer tactical rifles. I dropped the trigger down to about 2 lbs of pull and it surprises me every time. It is very loud but you just can’t get a gun like this shooting sub moa right out of the box for this cost!!! I would tell anyone not to worry about finding a certain grain bullet but to start hand loading your own. You will be amazed at the gain in accuracy. Right now I can put 3 rounds on target and cover it with a dime. Sometimes it looks as though only two bullets went through, but you can definately tell up close that it was three. I never shot long range untill i got this gun. Now I have something to do all summer untill hunting season comes back around. At the end of last year I had already killed a nice buck and seen a racoon come start eating some corn at the next food plot over which was roughly 250 yards away. I dialed in my monarch 6-24X50 nikon scope and could count the corn in his mouth. I let it fly marking his head on the second cross of the BDC reticle and he dissapeared into the grass. Once i got over there i was able to take a picture of the headless corn thief. I know we normally shouldn’t kill anything unless we meen to harvest it, but a shot like that is something I’m very proud of. lol. This rifle is by far the sweetest gun I’ve ever held and if anyone is thinking of buying one, do not give it a second thought.

  • Tom

    I have a 700 VTR in .223 and couldn’t be happier. I bought it to go coyote hunting this past spring and it worked beautifully. I dropped a 60lb yote at full run at roughly 250yds. I was at the range today and at 100yds every 3 shot group from the bipod was sub .5″ and off hand was around 3″. And I’m shooting the cheap Remington UMC JHP 55gr stuff. It is a great rifle, now I’m considering picking up a Desert .308 too.

  • Josh E

    Well, I have tried just about every manufactured ammo possible through my .22-250 VTR. After shooting 100 yard 3-shot groups ranging from 1.75 to 2.25 inches, I decided to fill the voids in the forestock with 2-part epoxy to increase the structural stability of the stock. I had noticed that when shooting from a bipod, that the stock flexed and placed pressure on one side of the barrel. The epoxy fixed the flex issue. I then had to address the fact that only one barrel contact point touched the barrel. I sanded both points off and glass bedded the barrel from the action forward. I have not had an opportunity to shoot the rifle but will this weekend. Has anyone else taken some or all of the above mentioned steps to correct an accuracy issue?

  • greg

    I recently picked up the VRT in a .308 with a nikon buckmaster 4.5X14 scope, and as an expert rifleman by 11B army standards, I did not think of myself as a great shot with a rifle. I broke the barrel in firing a round, cleaning the barrel with hoppes, 10x not paying attention to zero with cheap ammo. Upon completion, using winchester 168 grain ballistic silvertips, I was putting sub .25 inch groupings at 100 yards. 4 rounds of groupings and I was dead center 3 rounds almost on top of eachother. I never would have thought I could take a factory rifle off the shelf, and it perform like that. I am now not just a believer that the VRT is the finest rifle I have ever shot, but remington has will forever have my business if I ever need a new rifle. The trigger was spot on at 3.81 lbs., absolutely NO creep. Hope any of what I said, from a non competition shooter’s perspective helps if anyone is interested in this gun.

  • greg

    VTR!……..I just wanted to add after correcting myself. Other than hand loading, which I have several people giving me recipes to try with the VTR, what other factory ammo have people that had good luck with this weapon, and has anyone tried a 180 grain? The bucks in South Texas are big, and I do not want to use the ballistic silver tip for a buck as they do not leave a blood trail. On the other hand, all the hogs I have shot with that round have dropped in place, just don’t trust it on a big buck. AND, though I don’t want to mess with the trigger too much, has anyone reduced theirs, and to what affect did it have on the crispness of it?

  • nick

    i have a vtr in .308 with a leupold mark 2 mill-dot, 4-12x40mm scope on it, and i get 1/2 inch groups at 200 yds can any body tell me what i need to do to improve this group i use fed gold medal match 168.gr with sierra bthp bullets i got the ammo for 25 dollars a box thats why im using that ammo

  • greg

    Hey nick, that is going to be one of the 5 most accurate factory ammos you can possibly purchase other than handloads. Has a sierra match bullet, fantastic accuracy out of my rifle. There are a couple of match fact ammos out there you can try, but if your shooting the vtr, and your scope is spot on, and you are shooting some of the best match ammo you can buy, at some point you are going to have to question the abilities of the last factor in the equation…..the shooter. Find the ammo you like, and practice. Couple of other things to consider as well, how did you break your barrel in? Where you swabbing and cleaning after every round? Have you found your favorite ammo and tried grouping after different cleaning methods? Have you tried shooting with a dirty barrel? My rifle shoots best with a dirty barrel, out group any of my clean barrel groupings. I get my best groups by atleast 10 rounds through the barrel. My second time on the range with that rifle and more than 100 rounds through it I was shooting groups at 300 that I was getting at 100 my first time shooting it. With repitition, and tweaking out what your rifle likes and dislikes both with ammo, cleaning, barrel heating, cross winds, and
    other factors play into your ability to drive nails at 200. Until you rule out all the factors with such a good ammo, then I would have to put it on operator error as biggist issue.

  • nick

    thanks greg, i already use kano kroil in my all guns that dont have stainless barrels, and then let the kroil sit in there over night that works good, and ive noticed that my vtr shoots better after about 5-10 rounds depending on the weather,and also im going to be buying a dillon 550 in the winter so i will be able to hand load then , but for now i think maybe a trigger job and shooting drills minght be a way to get them better. thanks

  • greg

    Nick, sounds like you know what you are doing. I would shoot 10 rounds, then get a zero and go from there. That is what I have found works best in mine. I am loading some ammo and shooting next weekend, so I will give you some feedback on what I load and shoot and how I like it. My email address is gregmkjr2311 [ a t ] hotmail [dot] com. Shoot me an email and I will give you a factory ammo to try that you will not believe. It is in short supply and high demad so I don’t want to just throw it out there. Loading is the way to go, you can load as good a rounds as money can buy for less than 10 bucks a box. The rounds I am going to recommend I would buy as much of it as you can, and reuse that brass when you get set up. If you go dillon and that route you can easily spend a grand, just as good, and much more economical routes to go.

  • nick

    thanks greg, i’ll e-mail you in a week to get the feed back on the hand loads . thanks

  • cooperjc

    Marine Dad, to all who care to listen. My son a seasoned Marine came back from Iraq 4th tour. We had ordered a tactical VTR and a norm VTR. 308.
    We bought every caliber bullet on the sun in testing out these two impressive guns. The best bullet in accuracy pound for pound was the Winchester ballistic tip 150 silver tip. I am serious in saying I got tired of putting down the binoculars and walking to the targets only to see groups within the same hole. Every other bullet name grain etc would group 1 to 2 inches with my son firing. But I am totally serious when I say groups within the same hole. over and over and over. Needless to say, I have a bottom portion of the safe filled with Federal , Remington. Black Hills you get the idea. To the fella who asked how to you improve your groupings, try a box If I had not seen it for my own two eyes, I would have not believed it, would hate to be on the other end of a sight from this kid he doesn’t miss.
    We recently went out to Bridgeport Ca Marine tactical warfare training center to visit. The locals pay the guys on the weekend to protect their land from Coyotes. Nothing like seeing someone pick off one from 900yards.

  • ken

    I purchased a 700 vrt in 223 I was impressed to say the least!! Bought 2 boxes of cheep ass wolf ammo,then next door to the range (knob creek, ky) 6 rounds to zero Then time to see what I could do,I was shooting bowling pins at 300 yards missed 3 out of the next 36 rounds which was probibly my fault. My only problem is thats is all the way back I might buy some good ammo if I find a longer range and go cart to carry my butt down and back.It is so nice to have a rifle that can shoot very very well.
    To remington and the people out at knob creek thanks from deep in my heart. kb

  • roadwarrior

    I’ve heard a few guys mention wolf ammo. It’s by far the cheapest in .223 that I’ve seen, but I’m concerned that there must be something wrong with it. Maybe it fouls the barrel too much, or the powder is corrosive…I’m not sure.

    Does anyone know more about this ammo. The last thing I want is to damage my VTR.

  • nick

    Does anybody know about the reticle on the pentax game seeker scope , is it as good as some of the other higher priced reticles out there? Becuse i know pentax has been around for awhile and makes respectable scopes. I will be using the scope for bench shooting, and not hunting thats what leupold are for.

  • greg

    cooperjc, I am not suprised to hear it shot the ballistic silvertips so well, it is one of my favorite rounds, and it is a good bullet. I am suprised it shot the 150 grain so well, especially with the other ones being that sporadic. I have found my deer and hog load for the season after a couple of trips to the range. 42 grains of IMR 4895 powder, CCI primers, LAKE City spent brass, with 165 grain sierragameking SBT shooting at 2700 FPS. All the factory ammo I fired through it were good with the exception of one round in particular, they were unbelievable even at 300 yds.

  • Wild Bill,nc

    Hey Men,
    Just swapped a Desert Eagle .44 for a VTR .223, had to pay 59 dollars, I put a Nikon 6-18×40, on a Harris bi-pod.
    Been along time since I’ve had a new rifle of this Grade, my question is;
    1st, is the contact at the end of the fore-arm and the barrel suppose to be there? or should I remove it to achieve a free floating barrel?
    2nd, how should I break-in this new piece of artillery? How many rounds to how many cleanings?
    I have plenty of Lake City, and ample supply of ballistic tips.

    As for your .30 calibers, Winchester Silver Tips 180 btjhp My 300 H&H loves these at 500yrds…

    Thanx, Wild Bill

  • cooperjc

    Greg, like I stated if I had not watched it for my own eyes I would have not believed it. Check out the article in American Rifle I think in Oct, they reviewed this gun with 308 loads the reviewer commented on grain weight lower versus higher in success in groups.

  • larry

    I have the same question as Wild Bill. I am waiting to pick up my vtr in .308 and was wondering what is the best way to break in the barrel?

    thank you

  • cooperjc

    • Rounds 1-10 shot 1st round then put bore guide in and run wet patch with solvent through, then 20/30 strokes with bristle brush.
    • Then damp patch (solvent) then 1-2 dry patches.
    • Rounds 11-40 same as above except every 3rd round.
    • Grooving the Bore is critical to break-in of the gun for maximum performance and accuracy.

    To increase barrel life, accuracy, and reduce cleaning requirement the following barrel break-in procedure must be used. This procedure is best accomplished when the SWS is new or newly re barreled. The break-in period is accomplished by polishing the barrel surface under heat and pressure

    This is the break in procedure for a Sniper rifle, very time consuming but you will see unreal improvement, we have done side by side comparisons and ended up with 2 totally different firing guns. Also this will take approx 3 to 4 hours if done properly.

  • cooperjc

    For those who are listening, in my previous comment about break in procedures gun number #1 grouped .75 – 1.75 at 200 yards, gun #2 following the break in procedure grouped 0.0 – 0.12 200 yards respectively

  • larry

    Thank you for the advice. I will let you guys know what I think about my new rifle. This blog is great and very helpful instead of a lot of bashing on each other.

  • Greg

    I have posted earlier about my VTR in .308 and after 5 months and about 400 rounds of ammunition through the barrel, I can honestly say this is the best rifle I have fired to date, and I have fired a lot of them. My only complaint is not having an external magazine.
    If you are into reloading here is the recipe I have found that works best in my VTR after trying close to a dozen different recipes and even more bullets.
    Lake City spent brass (I shot 60 rounds of factory M118 lake city 168 gr and it was fantastic)
    42 grains of IMR 4895 powder, shootings 2700 FPS
    165 grain sierra gameking SBT
    CCI primers.

    I have fired over 100 of these rounds in varying conditions, and taken an HUGE axis doe with them at 185 yards. Complete thru n thru double lung shot, unable to recover the bullet to check for expansion.
    These rounds are on top of eachother at 100, and inside an inch at times at 300.

  • cooperjc

    Greg you can obtain an external magazine for the 700 here
    http://www.remingtoncountrystore.com/productcompact.aspx?catalogid=1&categoryid=3579&productid=3005 through Remington parts

  • bigmac

    cooperjc, sounds like you have some armoror expierience, good advice on the break in procedures. i too have recently purchased the VTR in 308 and am completely satisfied with it’s performance to date. Greg is using almost the identical recipe i use except i use combined technologies moly coated ballistic tips and winchester nickle brass. I’ve been using that recipee for a number of years with excellent results. the last rifle i used it in was the ruger MK 77 mark II varmint in 308, shooting dime groups at 200 YARDS. I am in the break in process of the VTR and am looking forward to putting it through its paces. My thanks for your sons service and wish him a safe tour. SemperFi, from a retired Marine.

  • Tyler Tennant

    Hey can you put a ring scope on the 223 model. Or what kind should i put on it?

  • joseph gillette

    this is the third deer season i took this 308 vtr out. the shot was 285 yards the deer was a 10 pointer. i have a 7mm mag three 30.06 guns a 6mm rem 35 win 30 30 win. i dont use them anymore this gun is the gun i will use until i cant hunt anymore and i been hunting for 46 years so i know alittle bit about guns. the kind of hunting we do in pennsylvania this gun was made for. 5 of my friends also got the same gun.i love this gun it is the best deer gun i ever had. i put a 6to 18 power scope on this gun. 308 is the best flat shooting cal you can get thats why they used it in veitnam in the m40 good for 800 yards and they still use it.

  • canuck

    Hey there, id like to thank you all for your great input, and the friendly and helpful advice on here from every one. I have done a lot of review reading, and rifle handling and testing over the last while. I have come to the conclusion that the VTR .308 will be my next deer rifle! thanks once again for the good hints and tips, Good luck out there, and safe hunting!

  • Wild Bill,nc

    Happy New Years to all,

    I’m still getting use to my VTR, but I have just purchased a Remington R-25, .308.
    It seem this A-R style has been over looked. Out of tha box she put three rounds of LC match one inch left and two inches high in tha space of a dime, through an 8×32 Monarch !
    Couple of clicks here and a few more there, this one is ready for anything, it does require a fork-lift to transport.
    Going to tha range this week to find out why my VTR hasn’t achieved this level of greatness…

    Safety First…ya’ll

    Wild Bill

  • canuck

    cool looking AR, sadly up here its a ” restricted ” weapon, and cant be used for hunting. Only can be used for range shooting only. For this ill probably get the .22 version of it. The .22 is not ” restricted “.

  • Buckslayer22

    I have the VTR in .308 without the muzzle break and a Leupold 4-12×40. I recomend this rifle to anyone. I have had great luck with Remington UMC 150 g. FMJ ammo (aprox. $35 per 40 at Walmart). However when I first purchased the rifle I bought magtec ammo which jammed the gun every single time; does anyone have theories as to why? Also if anyone could suggest a brand of match ammo I’d appreceate it.

  • cooperjc

    Winchester ballistic tip 150 silver tip

  • canuck

    Hey there again every one! So i bought my .308 VTR on Monday, and finally range tested it today. i followed the break in procedure cooperjc had posted, and i do think it did make a difference! i used 150 grain Winchester and at 100 yrds i was grouping within the size of a quarter. I think this is fairly good, i’m no expert, so im happy with its accuracy. The one problem i seem to be having is when i load the rounds in, and then go to chamber the round, some times the rounds do not get grabbed by the bolt and are not pushed in. This could be simply from my lack of experience with the fire arm, but i’ve used many bolt actions before, and i haven’t had this problem. the recoil was barely noticeable, though 150 doesn’t pack that big of a punch. and id have so say the muzzle break i do think makes a difference, i’m comparing it to my .306 and my .303 as far as muzzle flip goes. i’ve placed a 3×9 x40 mm QDM leupold scope on the rifle, and it seems to work quite well. all in all, i’m quite happy with it, and i plan to site it into 165 grain for black bear season. Thanks for all the good comments and insite into this fire arm, if any ones looking, id say go get it, in fact the other people at the range today liked it so much, they said they would save up and buy one, so that should speak to the product its self. Have a good day all, safe shooting !

  • oceana_57

    I am looking to buy a 700 VTR ,but wonder about the stock what it’s made of , how well it’s liked, etc.

  • jelkins

    The stock is made of a synthetic poly. I have the .22-250. I experienced significant stock flex when utilizing a bipod. I filled all of the voids in the forestock with two part epoxy to increase rigidity. It worked but be prepared to manage the heat produced from the exothermic chemical reaction between the two parts of the epoxy. If the heat and stock position is not managed, the stock may warp.

    After the epoxy set, I glass bedded the barrel and action from the magazine well to the tip of the forestock.

    This greatly improved accuracy to a point beyond my shooting capabilities.

    I have several other rifles and this is by far my favorite. It rarely leaves the truck.

  • buckslayer22

    Does anyone know where i can buy a clip conversion kit for my 308. Has anyone shot a 308 version of the vtr out close to 800 yds. I know an army sniper purchased one and commented about it on this sight. I’m curious what he’s tried with it.

  • Brent

    Well after reading all these comments I’m even more confused then ever, well not really confused but I can’t make up my mind on what to get for a varmint rifle, I’m looking at the 22-250 or the 204 can somebody tell me what they would do.

  • Wild Bill,nc

    Hey Ya’ll,
    I trust everyone is in good spirits, I just got another VTR, this time in .308. My Question is, the set screw on the outside of the trigger, do you screw it in or out for a lighter pull? I have a RCBS scale, doesn’t seem to get lighter than 4lbs.
    Maybe just take tha one out of my 721 ( 1.5 lbs)
    Or has anyone swapped out tha trigger yet?

    Wild Bill

  • Scott21

    I have been in heavy debate about a purchasing a VTR in the 308 caliber for Deer hunting. Thanks to everyone for all the great information and reviews I was able to gather here. I will be ordering mine this week. Any reccomendations for the most reliable and cheapest site to order one?

  • Scott21

    Does the VTR come in a left handed model for the matte green finish?

  • Wild Bill,nc

    Hey Scott,
    This is how I did it, I have a very good collection, so I managed to turn a .44 desert Eagle and fifty dollars into my first one, then two weeks ago I turned a modle 52 .38 master into a .308 VTr.
    I know, but my eyes are not what they once were.
    So for every one, look into your box and see whats in there, you will be amazed at what some things are worth, if not, try your next gun show. There is a very large gun shop on tha eastern part of NC in Jamesville, 6000 on tha wall, good day trip.

    Keep it safe

    Wild Bill

  • Scott, I bought mine from http://www.galleryofguns.com/ reliably for about $150 cheaper that the big stores in town (bass pro, GM, etc. ). In that site you shop the gun and the local retailer for the cheapest transfer cost.

    You will love it!

  • Scott21

    Thanks for the feedback. I will check it out before I order it from my local gunshop.

  • As a Retired Marine Corps Sniper, I can appreciate a well balanced and properly functioning long range weapon system. I believe the Remington 700 action to be one of the best out of the box functioning, reliable, and safe actions available. With a little Bolt face machining and Lug Lapping ,this action will definitely be on level with most other custom riffles available. I have several Varmint calibers in both 20 and 26 inch barrels and can say I get better long range accuracy from the 26 barrel as well as greater velocity. I do reload my own cartridges and can dial each riffle into it’s own coat and top hat for it’s best performance.but still shoot factory loads for everyday plinking. I find a well polished bore both cleans easier and stay accurate longer.A custom stock available on line will work as well or better than most over priced catalog big name stocks. You can find them @Ricks stocks.com you may spend a few hours on final fit and finish but it is your stock ( tailored to you ) when you are done. As for triggers I still find it hard to beat a Jewell trigger,and Optics dollar for dollar it’s tough to beat a Leupold Mk 3 or 4, I have two Smith Bender scope’s but don’t believe the money difference is worth it. For my fellow shooters with bad shoulders or just don’t like the recoil of the 308 try the 243 it’s ballistics are just as good as the 308 but much less felt recoil. Coyote’s at range don’t know the difference between the two and the 243 is cheaper to shoot and reload. But that’s just my opinion. thank you for your time and as always safe shooting is not an accident.

  • Ron

    I just purchase a Remington VTR in .223. It is the Cabela’s version with a 24″ barrel without the muzzel brake in a 1:9″ twist. Does anyone have experience reloading 55 grain Nosler’s? What type of powder seems to provide accuracy with this combo?

  • Ragan

    I just got back from Blackwater USA (U.S. Training Center). I took their precision rifle course and brought my VTR in .308. One of the instructors helped me file down the plastic columns to get the barrel free floating.I havent been able to touch my rounds at 100 yet (lack of practice). I am a novice shooter and was able to group sub MOA at 600 yds (Thanks to the help of the wind I’m sure) and I did hit steel targets at 700 and 1000 yards, bouncing right and left at 800 and 900 with a lot of wind. I had a Bushnell Elite 3200 5×15 on top. This is my next seasons deer rifle, and so far I am pretty darn pleased.

  • Wild Bill,nc

    Blackwater, thats my front yard, I hear them echo from ten miles away. Funny you removed tha resting points before you saw what tha weapon was capable of, I just got tha same rifle and went to tha Dare range this past Sunday. Out of tha box, twelve rounds to zero, boom, three rounds of Match on top of each other at 100yrds in gust of ten mph,.

    Has anyone seen a difference without tha points ?

    Keep it safe

    Wild Bill

  • thedirty1

    I got one chambered in .308 and I got to say im very happy all around. Hit two bucks this past season with 150 yard head shots confidently…. and to the guys who try to free float the barrel, dont you brainiacs think remington played with that before they finalized. id say remington builds a better rifle than you!

  • Ragan

    @thedirty1. Thanks for your passive agressiveness. I hope you feel better soon.

  • Wild Bill,nc

    Nothin’ like seeing a good hit through tha scope , right Mr. Dirty1 ? So tha Question remains, has anyone fired 100 rounds from a stock VTR and then fired 100 rounds through tha same weapon after free-floating tha stock, or a glass-bedding it, too see what, if any improvement was achieved ?
    I agree that I’m not a great shot, but I am capable of hitting what I aim at.
    Tha points at tha end of tha stock are mearly resting points, my guess.

    Steel plates at 1000yrds, must have been tha size of a sheet of plywood…

    Ya’ll keep it safe

  • gunman

    <—– Brainiac as so defined . welp i fully floated the barrells in all three of my vtr's and every single one showed improvment the best improvement was noticed on the heavier hotter loads . guess that might be some chunks in someone's pudding but my .02

  • Ragan

    Steel plates at 1000 yrs are 12″x12″. Whats up with this board? Does everyone feel the need to take a dig at someone here? I will excuse myself to another board.

  • My 308 VTR is 18 months old now, and I still love it, it regually shoots groups under an inch 100 meters my loadings are Hornady 165 Gr SST 41 Gr win 748 and remington mag primers.
    I’ve found this to be the most consistant load for the VTR I have not altered the stock it’s same as out of the box.

  • Ron

    I now have fired over 500 rounds through my .223 VTR and am extremely pleased with its accuracy. After only 2 shots to zero @ 100 yards, all rounds were fired without changing adjustments on the Redfield 4×12 Revolution scope. All 500 rounds fell within a 2″ group reguardless of ammo fired. The most accurated loads were 24.0 grains of 3031 with a 55 gr. Nosler balistic tip. The same bullet with 25.0 grains of Varget produced identical accuracy at 0.35″ for 5 shot groups. The IMR 3031 produced velocity around 2950 fps with a standard bariation of around 14fps. The varget produced 3250 with a S.D. of 18 fps. One group of 40 rounds of PMC 55 grain FMJ was fired with some amazing results. The group was the largest at around 1″ but the velocity was astounding. The highest velocity was 3590 and the lowest was 3522 fps. This ammo was produced in Korea and purchased over the counter from Cabelas 5 years ago. I need to mention that my VTR has a true 24″ barrel without the mussle brake. I also did not file the tabs from the stock to free float the barrel. The rifle is stock except for adjusting the trijjer down to 3 lbs of pull. The factoy setting was 4.3 lbs.

  • Wild Bill,nc

    Thanx Bruce, thanx Ron, Ya’ll just reinforced my belief that we need to see what tha weapon is capable of before we try to fix what is not broken.
    I’m up to three hundred rounds of Ga.Arms match .308, two and three touching with an occational called flyer.
    I’m still werkin on tha .223, all I am shooting is Mil ball until I get tha bugs out of it, tha 5 lb trigger isn’t helping…
    Thanx

    Ya’ll be safe

  • Don Nelson

    I have had my VTR in .223 for about a month now. I have found several loads with Hornaday 50 and 60 grain V Max bullets and Benchmark powder that will put 5 shots under an inch at 100 yards as well as one load with Sierra 55 grain spitzers that will do the same. My 50 grain Vmax load put 5 shots in 2 1/2 inches at 300 yards today in mild wind. All I have done to this rifle is adjust the trigger to what I felt was as light as was safe. No trigger pull gauge so I don’t know what it is.

    I have read quite a few complains about this gun in other places but I am very happy with mine.

  • hal

    I have a VTR in .243 Win. Five shot groups at 100 yds. are about one inch. The last 4 shots are 1/4 to 3/8 of an inch apart but the first shot from a cold barrel is always about 3/4 of an inch high and to the right. Is there any way to eliminate that first “flier”?

  • Ron

    Have you tried free floating the barrell? I do not believe your accuracy will be comprimised by trying this. My VTR has (2) pressure points in the fore arm of the stock the I sanded with sand paper and a wooden dowl until I could put a $1 bill through the area freely. My VTR in .223 shoots sub 1/2″ groups all day. Question: You did not state whether or not you were shooting after cleaning the barrel. Sometimes a fouling shot may help. Good luck!

  • hal

    Clean barrel or fouled barrel produce the same results. This morning I fired four rounds from a cold fouled barrel that had maybe six rounds thru it since last cleaning. First shot was one inch low and the next three shots were all touching but one inch higher than the first shot.

  • Steve R

    I have a VTR in 223. Got it in the spring. Shot groups that strung vertically until it, or me warmed up. But there were too many wild shots. Took it prairie doging in SD, shot pretty good, blasted a lot of those critters. Missed a lot too. Probably near 800 rounds through it when I returned.

    Floated the barrel. Helped a lot. After floating the barrel it shot tight groups and did not stack the shots up vertically like before. I found the Remington stock to be too flimsy for my liking, which I thought, was causing me to have too many flyers.

    I put a Houge over molded pillar mount stock on it. Groups tightened up, I can call the shots now. Took it back to South Dakota, killed the prairie dogs I missed the first time. It just shoots great now.

    I was so impressed with the improvement I put a Houge stock on my SPS.

    Too sum it up, I tested it both ways and floating the barrel helped a lot.

  • Merlin

    I pondered which rifle to buy for several months, and had it narrowed down to two rifles; the Remington Model 700 VTR and the Ruger Hawkeye Tactical, both in .223 Remington. I went the econo route and bought the VTR saving a couple hundred skins. I topped it with a Nikon Buckmasters 6-18X40 SF and the store boresighted the rifle for me. About 70 rounds later, my groups are still 2.5 inches center-to-center at 100 yards. This really sucks. I have used three types/manufacturers of ammo including Remington’s own hollowpoints. I have checked everything for tightness and cannot find anything wrong with anything. I have shot from a bipod (on a concrete bench), a sandbag rest, and by holding the rifle tightly, resting my elbow on the benchtop. The results were all the same. Ugly. Perhaps I have a factory lemon, but at any rate I am stuck with a rifle that has a 50% chance of hitting a p-dog at 100 yards, and that’s before any of my own bad habits come into play. In the past I have owned two Ruger No.1 Varmints, one in .204, and the other in .223, and they both shot sub-MOA right out-of-the-box with cheap Tasco scopes. I’ll never buy another Remington. Too bad accuracy isn’t gauranteed.

  • hal

    I had the same problem. Instead of putting the tip of the stock on the sand bag I moved the bag back until it was near the trigger guard and the groups closed up to about 1/4 inch.

  • Steven

    Haven’t had the oppurtunity to fire one yet, but I loved the feel and the balance of this gun when I held it in the store. My GF is getting me a .223 version of the 700 VTR for Christmas this year! Although it was my second pick behind the Browning Eclipse M-1000 A-bolt Stainless (22-250), and for alot less money. Even so I have to say its hands down the best xmas gift I’ll have gotten since I was a kid.

    Unfortunately there is a downside to this whole equation. My GF was stern about the fact I have to wait until Christmas before I can use it… I know what your thinking, isn’t there some law against that? Turns out there isn’t, I was just as shocked to find out as I’m sure you are right now. I decided though i will buy the Browning next year in a .270.

  • cooperjc

    I think I can speak for all on this forum, it is about owning, firing, tweaking, and responding to Remington VTR weapons, not posting (GF) comments about browning, comparisons and or your Christmas wishes. This forum started out being valid “GOOD” from hunters and avid sportsman related to the Remington VTR rifle and its accolades. My two cents
    Join a browning forum PLEASE. I sure this audience would prefer to hear from your GF

  • Steven

    Hey cooperjc its a firearms forum… not a Remington forum (hence the name thefirearmblog) its a Remington thread, and your two cents isn’t worth the copper to make them. Last time I checked Browning makes “firearms” do they not?

    Now to go and make remarks about my girlfriend over the internet, I must congratulate you on successfully making everyone that reads this board realize just how large of a douche you actually are. Maybe you should come talk to me in person and say something smart about my GF. I always get a rush from beating the p*ss out of folks with attitudes such as yours (internet/wannabe tough guys). Despite what your boyfriend tells you a weenis in your rectum isn’t a good alternative to having no spine.

    As for the VTR, can’t wait to shoot it, and can’t wait for Xmas. I’d offer my thoughts but apparently owning a Remington 700 VTR doesn’t qualify me to comment on it.

  • Greg

    STEVE R, what was the exact Hogue stock you replaced your VTR with? and where did you order it from?

    After shooting 500 rounds through my .308 VTR over a 1 year time frame I have run into an accuracy issue. My recipe which was shooting dime sized groups at 100 yds has now spread to 2-3 inches even in indoor bench rest shooting conditions. That is unsatisfactory. I am now going to experiment with the stock which is something I am unaccustomed to doing. I would like to start by replacing the stock and going from there. Can you please give me any information on the stock that can assist me.

  • COOKIE

    I HAVE THE 308 VTR THIS IS THE 2 SEASON I USE IT I HERE THESE PRO ASSHOLES TALKING ABOUT THAT IT DOES NOT HAVE THE ACC OF A BROWNING I BEEN HUNTING FOR 42 YEARS FOR BIG GAME.AND HAVE MORE GUNS THEN ALL THEM PUT TOGETHER AND THERE FULL OF SHIT THIS GUN IS THE BEST HUNTING GUN AND CAL 308 THAT IS ON THE MARKET TODAY.IF THEY CAN NOT HIT OR GROUP ITS BECAUSE THEY CANT SHOOT. THE ARMY IS GOING BACK TO A 308 CAL BECAUSE THE 223 DOES NOT DO THE JOB.THE 308 IS THE BEST FLAT SHOOTING ROUND THEY EVER CAME OUT WITH.AND THIS RIFLE IS THE BEST OF THE BEST OTHER WISE I WOULD GET RID OF IT. REM IS THE MOST ACC RIFLE OUT OF THE BOX YOU CAN BUY FOR THE MONEY. I HAD BROWNING AND WEATHERB JUST THE NAME ALL I KNOW I HIT WHAT I SHOOTING AT. WITH THIS VTR ITS A GREAT GUN TO OWN.ALL I KNOW IS THIS YEAR I WILL BE IN THE WOODS WITH A REM 308 VTR REM. BY THE WAY I GOT A 12 POINTER LAST YEAR THE VTR 350 YARDS I AIMED AT THE HEART AND THATS WERE IT WENT RIGHT THROUGH THE HEART. WELL THAT SOLD ME. GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR BROWNING.

  • Steven

    Cookie… it’s apparent you didn’t even read the posts. I said the Browning was my first choice, but I DIDN’T buy the Browning, I bought the 700 VTR. I got the VTR with a nice Bushnell scope for $900CAN, versus the Browning @ $1650CAN with no scope. Both guns felt very good, I just prefferred the feel of the Browning to the VTR. Remington being known for it’s “out of the box” accuracy was another good selling point for the 700 VTR, along with it’s aggressive looks. Unfortunately since they don’t allow you to fire guns in the store, I had to make a decision based on bang for buck. I chose the VTR.

    Now when you say the military is switching “back to .308 CAL because the .223 CAL does’nt cut it”. Are you saying that from a the perspective of you being in the military? If so great, I have many friends and family in the armed forces and it I hold them in the highest respects. Although at the same time who cares what the military or someone like SWAT chooses to shoot “people” with? Are you shooting people or wild game? My gun was bought to clean the coyotes off our farm and our neighbors, .223 are not legal to shoot anything larger. The .308 is a great calibre but a little of an over kill for a deer

    Honestly though I appreciate the hype you put behind the VTR, while our guns CAL isn’t the same your high opinion of this gun and other opinions like yours, helps solidify I made the right decision. If anything you’ve made me more anxious to shoot my VTR. But please next time, read the post before going off on someone about buying a Browning.

  • COOKIE

    SORRY ABOUT THE COMMENT IT WAS NOT INTENDED TO BE DERECTED AT YOU.THE CAL YOU CHOOSED IS A VERY GOOD VARMINT ROUND.THE ONLY REASON I”M SAYING ABOUT THE VTR IS BEAUSE THE GUN IS THE MOST ACC YOU CAN BUY. I HAVE AROUND 35 HUNTING RIFLES I SHOOT ALOT.BELIEVE ME IF THIS WAS A PICE OF JUNK I WOULD BE THE FIRST TO LET EVERYONE KNOW. WHEN IT COMES TO GUNS I FOUND OUT FROM CUSTOM GUN MAKERS HOW TO BUY THE GUN FOR THE GAME YOU HUNT. KEEP THE LOWEST MOUNTS YOU CAN GET. NO SEE THROUGH MOUNTS STEEL ONLY. THE BARREL ON THIS GUN MAKES A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE ITS A LONG RANGE GUN EVEN THE 223. WHEN I SAID THE 223 DOES NOT DO THE JOB THATS IN WARFAIR IN DONT HAVE THE HITTING POWER TO STOP ON COMEING. BUT HUNTING IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. THE VTR YOU GOT FOR WHAT YOUR HUNTING FOR IS THE BEST.REM TESTED THIS GUN FOR 3 YEARS. AS YOU USE IT MORE YOU WILL SEE YOU HAVE THE BEST MADE GUN ON THE MARKET. AGIN SORRY BUT THE COMMENT WAS NOT DERECTED AT YOU.

  • Steven

    Hey, no problem COOKIE. Thanks for providing some more insight on the gun. I didn’t realize it was tested for 3 years prior to release. That in itself speaks volumes about the R&D Remington invested into this weapon. Some reviews I have read were pretty skeptical of some of Remingtons claims for this weapon, calling the barrel shape and muzzle break, “gimics”, also calling the plastic stock “cheap” and a way to “cut costs”. But I think the fact they tested it for 3 years pretty much scuttles that theory. Lets face it Remington wouldn’t waste 3 years testing out “gimics”, 3 hours maybe. As for the plastic stock, I really have no problem with it. I don’t think it will ever pose an issue that any other stock wouldn’t, whether it were made of wood, or synthetics. Only concern with the plastic stock I have is with the cold weather won’t the plastic expand/contract? The mercury hit -34C this morning here so I’m afraid winter is here to stay for the duration. Anybody have experience with this weapons performance in sub zero temperatures? I would love to hear what you have to say and any tip/tricks you may have.

  • COOKIE

    AUTHOR STEVEN. ON THE PLASTIC STOCK ITS VERY DURABLE FOR COLD WEATHER. IN PENNSYLVANIA IT ALSO IS COLD 10-15 BELOW ZERO. IT WILL NOT CRACK OR SHATTER. I HAD IT UP IN CANADA 22 TO 25 BELOW NO PROBLEM I EVEN FELL WITH THE GUN ON THE STOCK ON A ROCK JUST A NICK NO CRACK THE STOCK DIDNOT SHATTER. THE STOCK WAS TESTED FOR HIGH TEMP AND SUB ZERO. THE AR15 AND M16 STOCKS ARE MADE FROM THE SAME COMPOSIT. DONT WORRIE ABOUT THE STOCK IT WILL HOLD UP LONG AFTER YOUR GONE. BELIEVE ME YOU MADE NO MASTAKE WITH THIS GUN.AFTER I GOT MY 308 VTR AND THE OTHER GUYS IN THE HUNTING CLUB HAD A GOOD LOOK AND SHOT IT 5 OF THE 10 HAVE THE VTR NOW. AND ARE VERY HAPPY WITH IT. DONT BABY IT YOU WON’T BREAK IT ITS MADE FOR THE WOODS. GOOD LUCK COOKIE

  • Dave

    I own a .243 VTR and like the look of the rifle. As far as accuracy I also own a 90s model 110 Savage 270 and the rifles are pretty close. Price for accuracy is still owned by Savage.

  • shredum

    Have a .204 VTR and it’s my new favorite rifle! I have pretty much put the .223 aside. Starting to reach out there with it to see what it can really do, 600 yd is pushing it, but it is do-able. I’m shooting winchester 34 gr and having a hard time finding any print and go ballistic charts

  • dsgraha

    I have owned and shot my VTR 308 for three years now. I for one love Remington 700’s but after dealing with this joke of a firearm I believe I will never purchase another over priced POS Remington again. This thing is the worst shooting rifle I have ever owned. Starting with the plastic ten cent joke of a stock on it. I do not care how much you glassbed this thing, it will not hold true. I do like the look of the stock, and the cool look of the barrel, but looks do not cut single hole paper. I am going to sink some more money in this thing and purchase a real stock in hopes it will perform to the standards Remington “claimed” it would out of the box. If that does not work then I will order a Shilien Barrell and true the action. But then it really is not a VTR any more is it? $900 fix er up er. Thats what it is.

    If I was a lawyer I would sue Remington for false advertisement, as well as all the other gun magazinse that pucked Remingtons lies.

    Truth is this thing looks cool, but falls way short of performing well. Remington should take this one off the market of cut the price down by 80 percent.

  • Jon
  • TheProRifle

    Hello chaps, I have a VTR in .223 it shoots Fiocchi 55 gr PSP (23gr spherical powder, looks like TAC and bullet with canular) into less than an inch all morning and shoots cheep Remington 62 gr HP (with canular!!) over 25.2gr Varget/7.5 RemBR – into half inch all afternoon. I understand that some rifles are more trouble than others, so maybe those displeased got a bad one. I love my VTR I don’t care if it’s floated/bedded or not. I tighten everything up and I inserted a thick leather pad with silicone filler to apply some forend pressure right at the tip, and also I put a compressed oily leather tab in the recoil lug slot in the stock, and boy oh boy this things is solid and it is a joy to shoot. It’s been freezing cold recently and I recon when conditions get better I will be able to tighten those groups up a bit. Don’t be put off by negative comments, you never know when a guy just doesn’t “get it”. At the range this gun is out performing 90 percent of what other guys are shooting, I don’t see anyone shooting smaller groups that this unless they are sitting behind a system costing at least twice as much with 400+ dollar scopes. And actually most of the issues I have had with “problem” rifles has usually come down to scopes/rings. With good glass, the VTR shoots very straight.
    -=tpr=-

  • rob

    does anyone have this in a .204… if so… what do you think??

  • Pollux

    I just returned home from Iraq in Dec. Spent my free time over the last year eyeballing the VTR between missions. Once I got home went and bought it in .308cal. Paired it with a Zeiss 3.5X10 Z 6Plex and a Harris Bipod. Great looking rifle, and shoots even better. Have it shooting sub 1inch groups at 200yds. Killed a 200lb 9 point in Feb at 110yds using Winchester 150gr PowerMax. Deer went down like a ton of bricks. Love this rifle……Any suggestions on accessories? Also, what grain and type bullet are you getting the best performance out of?

  • Allen

    I have the Remington 700 VTR in .308 for over a year, I am currently a police officer and deploy it for work purposes. I am using Federal 168 gr Match Kings and the weapon performs flawlessly. On a 50 meter zero I am key holing using a Leupold Mark 4 ER/T 8.5-25X50mm glass on it. So far I have taken it out to 400 meters and have had consistent groups of 1-7/8 to 2 inch. O really like this platform.

  • Jan Bedont

    I have a Reminton 204 VTR It does not shoot very well with new shells does anyone else have this problem?

  • Jan Bedont

    Does anyone have a suggestions 0n bullets or powder for my Remington 204 VTR. I have tried 5 different loads and with no tight groups on any.
    Including new shells.

  • What works for me 32GN V-Max Win 748 31g under 1 inch at 100 mtrs

    and in my 308 Hornady 168g 46g Ar2208 Match 1/2 repeatable or 165 Siarra HPBT same load, and 130 V-Max AR2208 48g but they shoot 2 inches lower than the heavyer bullet, but I have learnt to allow for it as I use leupold 4-14 VX3L varment rec which makes it easy
    Bruce

  • VitoM

    I just bought a VTR in 223 Rem., and I am very disappointed. I sold my Savage FCP-K because it was too heavy and bulky. But it made sub MOA, (5/8″), groups continually from day one. I liked the way the VTR feels and balances, but the barrel gets very hot after just three rounds. So hot that I can’t touch it. I can make one three shot clover leaf, and that’s it. then I have to wait for the barrel to cool, (about twenty minutes). If I don’t wait for it to cool, the holes in the paper are all over the place. I have a Weaver Super Slam 4-20X50 EBX scope with Weaver steel Grand Slam mounts, and Burris Zee Rings. This is a very solid set up, but the gun likes to bend. I have shot Hornady 53 gr VMax Superformance, and Win. 55 gr FMJ, and Federal 55 gr SP factory ammo, and 55 gr Sierra HP, 63 gr Sierra Semi Points, Sierra 69 Match King BTHP, and the 80 gr Match King bullets with VV N540, H335, and Win 748 powders. I wish that I’d kept the Savage. This gun doesn’t shoot any better than my SPS in 308 Win. But that is a hunting gun, not a target gun, so I didn’t expect one inch groups from it. Does anybody know what may be wrong?

  • VitoM

    I would like to know if s togieman has gotten any better results since he bought his VTR in 223 Rem. back in 10/2008. I did notice that he used 55 gr. ammo. The one in nine twist likes bullets of 60 -70 grains. But I am having trouble with all bullets from 53 to 80 grains. I did notice that this gun, unlike my former Savage FCP-K, dose not have enough room to seat the bullet high, so the heavier one stick down past the shoulders inside the case. The magazine has the room, but the lans are right up there, just past where the case ends. I think that this whole gun and design was just a sales gimmick on Remington’s part to make money. If I don’t get good results from it soon, I’m going to sell it and buy another Savage or Ruger. Savage Arms, Ruger, Mossberg, and Marlin will actually answer your emails and talk to you on the phone. I know because I have been on the phone with these manufacturers, and they are always willing to help and disovle a problem. I should never of sold my savage. Remington is a conglomerant, and they couldn’t give a damn about their customers.

  • Jan Bedont

    I tried 3 or four more loads different powder

    & grains. 4064 works 26.2 grains works well, but after three shots the barrel gets hot and they jump all over the place.

  • VitoM

    Jan Bedont,

    That really doesn’t help me because the loads that I use are good. It is that I can only shoot three rounds. And that is what you are telling me. I want to be able to go to the range and compete all day long. I just should have kept my savage. Remington has become too big and don’t give a crap about us, only their money. I’m going to have to sell this piece of crap and buy another Savage.

    VitoM

  • VitoM

    I have read several of the comments on this site, and what I get from it is that the VTR is not a gun for sitting at a bench and trying to make five bullets in one hole. Matter of fact, it isn’t even as good as an SPS. I own mine exactly one month today. I only bought the scope eleven days ago. So I’ve only been shooting it eleven days, and now I have to sell it in order to buy a real rifle. I’m going to sell my SPS in 308 Win. also. I’ll never buy another Remington. I’m going back to Savage. Their rifles are better, and they are always striving to make them better. They have excellent customer service too. Remington is just out for the money. They are not in it to make good firearms. They have their reputation to fall back on, and unfortunately, I fell for their hype.

    I just read a comment from dsgraha, and it seems that He/She agrees with me whole heartedly. When I had me Savage, I could shoot all day long and never have to stop to let the barrel cool off because it never got hot. Matter of fact, it was the first two shots that were bad. After that, the barrel was just right for a day of clover leaf hole in paper. I don’t like light weight bullets, whizzing around at 4500 fps. I like 60-70 gr. bullets doing about 2700-2900 fps. So it is not that my loads are too hot. The gun just plain s%&ks. I bet Remington knows all about this, and will do nothing about it. Has anybody out there tried to contact them on this matter? I’m going to try. For anybody that has owned a Marlin, Mossberg, Savage, or Ruger, you probably know that you can get them on the phone and talk with them. The only problems that I have ever had with a Ruger or a Savage, is faulty magazines, and they replaced them with no questions asked.

    My very last word on this subject; I WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER REMINGTON FIREARM!!!

  • I had a 308 for 3 years now, and at the range Its still ok after 20 plus shots in quick time. I use win 748 and 2206, Remington mag primers and have not had a problem with exsses heat I think you have to ecept its going to heat up, But its the first shot that counts when hunting

  • Ron

    Try Varget powder for the .223. I loaded a varity of 55 gr. Nosler ballistic tips with good results from most all powders. Varget gave me the best overall average velocity and accuracy. I used the Varget suggested load listed on the cannister and experimented from there. I am using the maximum suggested manufacturers load. My chronograph showed velocity @ 3290 fps with 100 yard groups under 1/2″ for 10 consectutive 5 shot groups. I let the barrel cool down about 20 to 30 minutes between rounds. My VTR in .223 has a 24″ barrel without the muzzle brake. It is topped with the Redfield Revolution 4 x 12 scope. The only adjustment I made to the gun was to lighten the trigger pull down as far as it would go. I measured it at 3-1/4 lbs. I also found out that the first few shots out of a clean barrel are not as accurate as the next 50+ after cleaning.

  • Wild Bill,nc

    Like Bruce and many others have stated, a bolt weapon and good optics should yield a swift kill with tha first round.
    I didn’t hear about your break-in habits, most of my bolt guns of tha past have been used, so they were very well seasoned.
    I am a mutt when it comes to my firearms, I have never been “married” to just one, I try to be proficiant with all that I own.
    I shoot my .308’s more but have switched too .tha .223’s, my VTR has tha triangle and comped barrel, it is suppose to get hot faster, but cool at a faster rate, thats by design. I am still learning mine and can do a quarter group with cheap ball ammo, once you see what tha weapon is capable of, now you can improve on it and have a standard to compare too.
    Wouldn’t it be great to have a one hole group right out of tha box? Like my R-25 (totally differet beast) with every weapon purchased?
    My XCR is a one holer, but she likes to be fired from a nice platform, I have never taken my bench hunting with me….just sayin’

    Safty first…..never return fire, shoot first…

  • VitoM

    Hi Bruce,
    I have noticed on this blog that the VTR’s in are Rem. hated, and the ones in 308 Win are loved. There must be something to that. But I use H335 and Win 748 powders.

    To the people that keep telling me about 55 gr. bullets, I bought a gun with a 1:9 twist because I wanted to shoot 60 – 70 gr. bullets. If the Rem VTR won’t let me, then there is something wrong. The whole idea of the faster twist is to shoot heavier bullets. I don’t like high velocity light weights. I like 2700 to 2900 fps with 60-70 gr. bullets. better for long range and hunting. I wanted a rifle that I could use for target and hunting.

    Anyway, I have mine listed on GunBroker now. I’m getting rid of it, and my SPS in 308 Win. No more Remingtons for me. I like the Savages and Rugers much better.

    Thank you for your inputs. this blog has helped me with my problem. I now know that it is the gun and not me.

  • VitoM

    Excuse my typo…
    That first line in my last comment was supposed to be;
    I have noticed on this blog that the VTR’s in 223 Rem. are hated, and the ones in 308 Win are loved.

  • VitoM

    I guess you guys just don’t understand what I thought the gun was supposed to do. If I am bench shooting, I want to shoot a 5 round group, and then another one, and the another one, and so on. If I have to wait a half hour after the first three shots, then the gun is not what I wanted. My Savage, that I sold to buy this piece of crap, would never get hot, and shot after shot went where I wanted it to go, and the barrel never got too hot. So I appreciate all of the info that I have gotten from you guys. I now know that this is not the rifle that I wanted. I just wish that I had checked in to this site before I bought it. Butt I had no idea that the gun was incapable of shooting in a straight line beforehand. Anyway, it is on gunbroker, and I am going to buy a Savage Precision Carbine in 223 Rem.

    Thank you every one for your help.
    VitoM

  • Greg

    If you purchased a VTR for anything more than plinking, target shooting, deer, hog, predator or varmint hunting and expected more……well, your just an idiot. It is a factory production rifle. 1 inch groups at 100 yards is all your going to get. If you bought a vtr to compete against benchrest shooters that are shooting $3000-$5000 custom guns, then you are a bigger idiot. I think half the people that have posted on here do not know how to properly break in a rifle or clean a barrel after a range session. The half that don’t know how to properly break in a barrel will NEVER have a one hole shooter. It takes me atleast 2 hours some times more to clean my barrel after a 30 round range session.
    I tried a lot of different factory ammo before I found my favorite one. You have to shoot different types of ammo with the same conditions. Clean barrel, and I mean CLEAN. Get all the fouling out. Test ammo with a clean barrel, and fouled barrel. Chart your rounds. Including the break in process I shot about 200 total rounds before I found the factory ammo and reload that shoots best in my rifle. You will also be able to see accuracy fluctuations. My rifle shoots extremely accurate between the 5th and 20th rounds. I know using Lake City brass, 165 gr sierra gameking SBT and 42 grains of IMR 4895 that my 6th round being a cold bore round is going to touch my 5th round at 100 yards. I have charted from 100-300 yards from round 1 to round 30 with cold warm and hot barrels. I have almost 900 rounds through my rifle with an excel spreadsheet that charts everything except when I shot at game.
    The remington VTR is a cheap factory gimmicky gun. $700 bucks…..that is cheap for a decent rifle. It is still capable of being shot well, but it will never be capable of keeping up with a $3000-$5000 custom built rifle no matter who is shooting it. I bought my VTR for 4 reasons. 1. It was cheap 2. It looked cool and was well balanced 3. I can pass this .308 on to my son at a young age (very little recoil) 4. Remington 700 action is one of the most tried and true actions ever developed. At the end of the day, it is still a cheap factory production gun, and if you want it to be accurate, you have to take good care of it.

  • Jan Bedont

    I am looking for answers about the 204 VTR I do not have the other calibers. Please do not send about the other calibers. Again, does anyone have a good load for the 204 Ruger for the Remington VTR everthing I try will not give a good grouping at 100 yards.

  • cooperjc

    Dear GREG

    USMC rifle cost to make 296. In the hands of a marine 100 200 300 400 500 yards and further all day long. On your comment section which was to say the least hilarious get a clue you embarrassed yourself . I watched a Marine pick up a VTR and hole through hole within 2 minutes of picking up a gun he had never touched before in his life. My son, made me look like a fool but it goes to show ignorance at its best. I doubt very seriously Remington appreciates your comments and or lack of information. Don’t you have another website, blog, PLACE to post ignorant comments about something you know not one solid piece of information about. Scroll back and read my original post a few years ago, then ask yourself snipers handbook on HOW to BREAK in a rifle used for decades in our services and you think your two cents on opinion qualifies your input here. NOT

  • VitoM

    To cooperjc; I’m an experienced shooter, and this piece of crap that I bought, that Remington calls a rifle, will not make anything more that one three shot group. then you have to let it cool off for twenty minutes before attempting to do it again. I really don’t care if Remington likes what I said or not. As for breaking in a barrel, it is still a theory. I have never broken in a barrel. I have read articles written by pros, and some say to break it in, (and they all have different ways to do it), and some say that it is not necessary.

    To Greg, first off: learn the English language. You called me an idiot, but I passed grammar school English class. The word is YOU’RE, not YOUR. Also, never insult a person when you’re trying to make a point. It makes you look stupid. Insults are a tool of some one that doesn’t know what he is talking about. If one has knowledge on the subject on which he is speaking, then he doesn’t need to stoop down to insulting another person. If one is trying to cover up is ignorance, then he may need to stoop down to the level of insulting the one to which he is speaking.

    Second: All Savage model 10 Law Enforcement rifles and model 12 Target Rifles will make Sub MOA groups all day long, right out of the box. I have made 5/8 inch and 3/8 inch groups and 4 bullets in one hole groups with mine, (I tried to make the five in one hole, but haven’t yet). I wish that I never sold it. But as soon as I sell this VTR, I’m buying another Savage. The Savage has a full length aluminum bedding and an adjustable trigger, and a barrel that sheds heat very well. The VTR has gimmicky barrel that you can fry eggs on, no bedding for the action or barrel, and the X Mark Pro trigger is not even as good as the X Mark trigger in my SPS. So in short, you can buy an out of the box gun and compete with it, just as long as it is not a Remington. If you buy a Remington, and you want to compete with it, you have to have some custom work done to it, ie: HS Precision stock or McMillan stock, or one of the others from other competition stock makers for a beginning. Of course there is the X40 Remington which already have all of these things done. Also, there are many different level of competition. I wasn’t planing on competing in one of the Nationals, just local stuff for fun.

  • Josh

    VitoM and Greg –

    I purchased a 22-250 VTR / Leupold scope combo from a local store for my wife. I broke the barrrel in thru a shot/clean/shot routine out to 80 rounds. The gun was grouping 3 shots @ 1.5 inches at 100 yards. I removed the stock and adjusted the trigger, filed down the two molded blocks on the muzzle end of the stock, filled the stock voids with 2-part slow set epoxy, glass bedded the barrel and action, and installed a deresonator on the barrel to address some vibration issues. I never changed ammo from over the counter Hornady custom rounds. Last time I took the rifle to paper, I put 4 sequential shots under a penny at 100 yards on a 90 degree, 60% humidity day with a light 5 MPH breeze. I do not wait 5 minutes between shots but I do keep all paper targets with detail about the day, rounds, and distance. I shoot it as I would any other rifle and I treat it no different than any other rifle. After shooting the factory Hornady rounds, I did not feel the need to hand load.

    To me, this rifle was money well spent for my wife and I as a utility rifle. It is now my first gun out for coyotes and deer. It is by no means a target rifle. The gun has never let me down and I never miss the opportunity to clean it in the field, on the range, and at the house. Accuracy was frusterating at first but was cleanly remedied with a little shop work at home.

  • Gmo

    If you’re looking for a rifle that goes from your vault into a case, to your vehicle and onto a bench for it’s role in your collection this is not your rifle.

    This is a rifle that gets dirty. That gets rough handling and treatment.

    This is a rifle that carries well and provides the extended range when needed.

    When I get the opportunity I dust it off with compressed air, rinse the barrel with silicone spray, and swab it out.

    The optics are the weakest part of my rifle.

  • shootersid

    I bought a Rem. 700 VTR a couple months ago. I dont shoot it a lot but I really love the gun. The only thing I’ve done to it is put a Firefield 3-12×40 scope on it. I can consistently get .6 to .75 inch groups with it. That is shooting laying on the ground with a bipod. Wouldn’t trade it for anything.

  • I own a Rem VTR in 308 shoots great, don’t know why some people are having problems

  • COOKIE

    I BEEN SHOOTING THE HORNADY AMMO IN 308 THE RED TIP. IT GREAT RIGHT ON AT 100 OR 200 I HAVE A REDFEAL SCOPE 6 TO 18 RANGEFINDER A LITTLE OVER KILL FOR PA HUNTING BUT NEVER HAD TO TAKE MORE THAN ONE SHOT.THIS GUN IS ONE OF REM BETTER GUNS I HAVE A LOT OF GUNS 7MM MAG 30.06 30.30 AND A LOT MORE I BEN HUNTING FOR 45 YEARS. THE 308 IS A GREAT FLAT SHOOTING GUN. YOU DON’T NEED 300 MAGS OR THESE BIG CAL GUNS. THIS NEW VTR GUN IS ON. I KNOW THERE IS GUYS OUT THERE THAT CANT GET A GROUP. NOT THE GUN ITS THE MAN BEHIND THE GUN. I HAVE THIS GUN FOR 3 HUNTING SEASONS. I GOT DEER FRON 150 YARDS TO 325 YARDS. ITS A GOOD DEER RIFLE AND BEAR. IF IT WAS NOT I WOULD BE THE FIRST TO SAY ITS JUNK. TO MAKE A GOOD CAKE YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE RIGHT MIX. AND WHAT I FOUND OUT HORNADY RED TIP AMMO AND THE REM VTR IS THE RIGHT MIX.BY THE WAY I GOT A 12 POINTER THIS YEAR 325 YARDS. THE SCOPE HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE SHOT. I DON’T USE THE OTHER GUNS ANY MORE. IF IT NOT BROKE DON’T FIX IT. THIS WILL BE THE GUN I WILL USE UNTIL MY DAYS OF HUNTING ARE OVER. WILL GOOD LUCK WHAT EVER YOU ARE USEING. I KNOW WHAT I WILL BE USEING. REM. VTR. 308. REDFEAL SCOPE. 165 HORNADY RED TIP AMMO

  • VitoM

    To Tyler,
    You bought a piece of crap. I bought one last year in 223 Rem. and I could get it to group with anything. I sold mine and bought a Savage. I recommend that you do the same.

  • shootersid

    I use Hornady 32 grain V-max factory ammo. It does very well in my gun. I actually haven’t tried any other ammo but decided this is good enough as I have done many half inch groups and have succeeded at 1 three shot one hole group.

  • This is for Greg I did not buy the 204 for deer IDIOT, I bought it for groundhog hunting. This caliber is not recomended for deer. I traded the Remington for a Savage 204, I am getting .75 inch groups at 100 yards with 27.2 grains of 4064 and 39 grain Sierra Blitz bullets! Really great shooting gun.

  • Sean

    Looking for a HIGH. Quality scope mount for my new target/tactical VTR 700 .308 ….got ar’s for .223’s …NE way I like the look of the one piece leopould mounts-any ideas where would have the best $$ ? Gonna use a U.S Optics scope…thx for any suggestions-regards,SW

    • Wild Bill,nc

      I have spent alot of money at “Optics Planet.com, kinda like tha walmart of optics, leupold has as many mounts as there are weapons…safe shootin’
      WB

      • Ive had my 308 VTR for sevral years and have leupold VX3LR 56ml, Leupold mounts, it eats golf balls at 200 meters Ive trid other stocks and have gone back to the original my friends have done the same I think thoughs that say they don’t shoot want to go and get some coaching has had over 1000 round thru it Roo,s Foxes Rabbits Goats Deer
        I use reloads Mainly Nosler dueal tech 168gr and hornady 168gr both shoot to the same point. 150,s good to. I use it more than all my othe gunns

  • Gino

    I’ve had my VTR in .223 for about a year now and don’t have any complaints with it. I don’t usually use factory ammo but thought I’d try a few different brands to see what they would do. It didn’t shoot bad out of the box, about 1/2″ at 100 yards. I did have to free float the barrel and lighten up the trigger a bit, but it works great now. I setteled with Fiocchi 40 gr. VMAX loads which got one hole 3 shot groups at 100 yards. The Fiocchi 50 gr. VMAX got one hole 3 shot groups too. I went to Montana a few weeks ago to get some trigger time on prairie dogs. It was a great trip and about 650 dogs were put to rest in 5 days. I didn’t have any problems with the VTR and made confirmed kills at over 350 yards, 200 yard head shots were no problem. I even got several doubles and a couple triples. I brought another gun in case the VTR heated up to much, but that never happened. I did some pretty fast shooting at times too and didn’t have any overheating problems at all. I know that there are bad guns made just like bad cars or anything else. It’s a shame some folks on this blog have had problems with their VTR’s, I guess I got a good one. I do have other Remington 700’s and they all shoot pretty good.

  • Bill

    My wife bought the VTR in .308 as a fathersday gift for me. She thought it looked so cool ! Im in lust with my VTR ! I put a semi low end Nikko-Sterling game king 4×44 scope.Im hitting a constitant .5 at 500yds. H.ad to get used to the soviet mil system but after a few well placed Hornandy 168 grn.bullistic tips the fun never stops ! It has been my primary hunting rifle since. The VTR is truly an awesome firearm!

    • Justin

      I just bought a VTR in the .223. The argument can be made that it will not shoot 5 rounds in a quarter. But if you are using this rifle to Shoot deer, Hogs, Varmints you are fooled on what this rifle will do. If you are shooting within 1″ of the bulls eye at 100, or 200 yards you are hitting your target in a kill zone. The rifle is only as good as its optics and the rifle will only be as good as the person shooting it. Another thing everyone is talking about how close they are shooting. But if I remember correctly when I was growing up I was told to shoot where the bullet is going to exit, if I wanted true results. I have owned a Remington 700 in a 243, 22-250, 308 and now the .223. Nothing is better shooting than the .308 (Some claim it is the PERFECT round) why else would our military use the round? the .243 is the exact same casing besides the neck on the casing and power charge but it is a lighter grain bullet as well. Making it pretty much one of the greatest rounds. the 22-250 has only let me down one time in my many times of shooting it which I take the blame of it because I squeezed the trigger. I missed a nice spike at 300 yards shooting at his neck. Remington has been doing this for years. Name one gun your dad or grand father would choice over it…

  • I’ve said that least 2722415 times. SCK was here

  • Jimmy’s pictures were different from other people’s because he never painted on all of the paper. He painted on half of it, and the other half was always empty.

  • COOKIE

    THIS IS THE THIRD YEAR WITH MY 308 VTR AND THE LAST DAY OF BUCK WAS SATURDAY 12/8/12 IN PA.
    IT WAS GREAT RAIN/ FOG / COLD EVERYTHING A HUNTER
    DON’T NEED AROUND 100 YARDS OUT IN THE CLEAR WALKING DOWN THE MOUNTAIN A 10 POINT BUCK ONE SHOT ONE KILL SO FAR 4 SHOTS AND 4 YEARS AND 4 BUCKS.ALL THESE GUYS TALKING ABOUT SAVAGES ALL THESE DIFFERENT CAL. ALOT OF BAD PRESS ABOUT THE VTR THE STOCK. IT DON’T HOLD A GROUP WHEN IT GETS HOT. PRO SHOOTERS. I THINK THERE FULL OF SHIT. I WAS IN VIETNAM STARTED OUT WITH A- M-14 308 GREAT GUN GREAT CALABER. THEN M-16 MORE FIRE POWER LESS HITTING POWER NO GOOD FOR OVER 100 YARDS. I BEEN SHOOTING GUNS FOR 45 YEARS AND NOT JUST AT DEER
    THIS VTR IS A GREAT GUN IT HITS RIGHT ON IT CAN HIT 350 YARDS OR BETTER I WILL PUT IT AGINIST ANY GUN ON THE MARKET. THESE GUYS THAT DON’T LIKE THE GUN JUST GET OF IT. I HAD SAVAGE AND MARLIN AND ALL THE REST. NOT EVEN CLOSE.BELIEVE ME GUYS FOR THE MONEY ITS THE BEST OUT OF THE BOX.

  • Throughout this grand pattern of things you’ll get a B+ for effort and hard work. Where exactly you lost us was first in all the specifics. You know, they say, details make or break the argument.. And that could not be more accurate at this point. Having said that, permit me inform you exactly what did deliver the results. The authoring can be highly persuasive and this is possibly the reason why I am making the effort in order to opine. I do not really make it a regular habit of doing that. Next, despite the fact that I can easily notice the leaps in logic you come up with, I am not really confident of just how you appear to unite the ideas that make the actual conclusion. For now I will yield to your position however hope in the ochrona wrocław near future you actually link your dots much better.

  • Whoa! This blog looks just like my old one! It’s on a totally different topic but it has pretty much the same layout and design. Superb choice of colors!

  • I’ve been surfing online more than three hours today, still I not at all set up a few worthy of note item like yours. It is pretty meaning sufficient representing me. Popular my view, qualification all position owners and bloggers made safe content as you did, the web will be present a good deal further beneficial than increasingly before.

  • have to go away your home to have that terrific tasting connoisseur chocolate that you just

  • Subsequent yr, Carolyn received gained 18 WTA singles video games, three inside 2008, about three last year, 6 in 2010,along with 6 this period. Your lady was runner-up in the 09 Men and women Open up and the The calendar year of 2010 WTA Tour

  • I was same jovial to discern this locate proceeding bing.I wished to utter many gratitude to you with regard to this wonderful post!! I undoubtedlyenjoyed each insufficiently crumb of it and I’ve you bookmarked to check not on new ram you post.

  • Do you have a spam problem on this blog; I also am a blogger, and I was wondering your situation; many of us have created some nice methods and we are looking to exchange methods with others, why not shoot me an email if interested.

  • Smooth Panties.” Adidas tennis footwear like a long background and wonderful track record of longevity and luxury. The particular Adidas Barricade is probably the maker’s most popular sneaker kinds. However in 2011, the company launched the modern Adidas jogging sneakers made exclusively for

  • to hold the best score placement also as 20 th all spherical, she will get elevated your ex year-end score each and every 12 months till concluding around the best in the two The 12 months of 2010 and The new year. By July

  • i am wondering if boxing day flyers are still running. . specifically speaking BEST BUY in canada. if not, do they do rain-checks?. . Thanks. no rude comments please. Much appreciated..

  • hey there and thank you for your info – I’ve definitely picked up anything new from right here. I did however expertise several technical issues using this web site, since I experienced to reload the web site a lot of times previous to I could get it to load properly. I had been wondering if your web hosting is OK? Not that I’m complaining, but slow loading instances times will sometimes affect your placement in google and could damage your high-quality score if advertising and marketing with Adwords. Well I am adding this RSS to my email and can look out for a lot more of your respective intriguing content. Make sure you update this again soon..

  • It truly is just one of the most important fashion block inside of Milan, so you may possibly understand why any time walking from the range of artist outlets. Gucci, Prada, Tiffany’s, Chanel, and thus far more, By strategy for Samsung monte Napoleone gives all of these, located inside architecturally beautiful structures. In case you want to look right here, be sure to costume to thrill just before even placing foot! Do not be surprised if you are rubbing arms together with the popular or rich, particularly while in the system of Design Full week. Fl, typically acknowledged as “The Sun State” is absolutely required it truly is crystal clear skies as well as hot, appealing weather year-round. And something together with the Sunlight State’s prime locations would be the centrally found capital of scotland- Orlando, fl. Appealing to international tourism for many years, Orlando is action-packed with several diverse spots to ascertain and likewise activities to do. Accommodations in Orlando, florida range from the first-class and also custom holiday accommodation on the budget-friendly 2 superstar or more accommodations preferably positioned close by the municipality’s major destinations. In case the goal spot will likely be Disney, you may possibly choose from Orlando motels located within the recreation location and enjoy an distinctive minimal expense with Disney automobile park admissions. Moreover, you could possibly select the all around Orlando area motels, several of which can give free of cost shuttle service both to and from Disney Entire world. Orlando, florida is found in the particular coronary heart inside the express, 1st situation folks to get capable to Fl could wish to devote time a single from your california’s spotless beaches. Test a global airline flight right into one among many seashore holiday resort regions like Arkansas, found close to a few of several hours from Better Orlando, florida. Las vegas accommodations are throughout in addition to choices for seashore search at

  • If you are advertisement is without a doubt relevant to the market place, and even about to catch possessing reviews, it can be really are there is a crummy posting.

  • Then they implement one of two stuff.

  • Fantastic blog site, thanks for that thoughtful posting! Remember to take a look at my own weblog as well and i want to understand how my very own is usually! Thanks a lot!

  • Chawk

    I have had my vtr 223. For about 4 months now and I love it. I have the a Nikon 223. Nikoplex and like that 100 yards to 300 yards so far is only a turn of a dial but I would like better groups. It shoots about a 2″ group at 100 and about 3″ group at 300 I shoot 55gr. V-max bullet. Is there some way to make the group tighter.

  • Chawk

    I have had my VTR 223. For about 4 months now and I love it. I have the a Nikon 223. Niko plex and like that 100 yards to 300 yards so far is only a turn of a dial but I would like better groups. It shoots about a 2″ group at 100 and about 3″ group at 300 I shoot 55gr. V-max bullet. Is there some way to make the group tighter.

  • Chawk

    I have had my VTR 223. For about 4 months now and I love it. I have the a Nikon 223. Niko-plex and like that 100 yards to 300 yards so far is only a turn of a dial but I would like better groups. It shoots about a 2″ group at 100 and about 3″ group at 300 I shoot 55gr. V-max bullet. Is there some way to make the group tighter.

  • the start of your respective human body to soak up impact at the same time as get you shifting, so it really is essential on your own toes to provide equilibrium, total overall flexibility as well as strength. This kind of unit is created to support players reinforce their distinct foot minimizing reduce limbs although even so giving ease alongside with basic safety inside their resistance education and likewise physical fitness work out routines.Inches Adidas gives a diverse amount of sneakers alongside with other gear for each kind connected with people. In the event you reside no significant sporting activities fanatic, Adidas tennis footwear are ideal for just jogging all around the actual park or possibly getting a expanding procedure. Walk functioning is becoming well-known with competitive athletes, which consider a change of tempo from typical marathons each and every morning operates. However demanding and also specialised tracks need correct working gear. Path running shoes are the most important gadget you will get to stop harm also to improve performance. Adidas Piste Jogging shoes will protect you and improved performance above normal athletic footwear along with additional traction force, sturdiness, motion conduite and light-weight supplies. With piste athletes uncovering way more intense and also stressful surfaces, Adidas has transformed in excess of their particular game employing sneakers which normally takes on any of nature’s issues. Zero two tracks is similar.

  • Cheapest tablets and tablet accessories

  • This is a excellent tips especially to people new to blogosphere, simple and accurate information… Many thanks for sharing this one. A necessity read article.

  • I like this web blog very much, Its a very nice place to read and incur information. “Nothing can be pleasing which is not also becoming.” by Quintilian.

  • I sorry for my English.You made some nice points there. I looked on the internet for the subject and found most persons will go along with with your website.

  • Super post it is actually. My girlfriend has been awaiting for this content.

  • Good write-up, I am normal visitor of one’s site, maintain up the nice operate, and It’s going to be a regular visitor for a long time.

  • crustytom

    My review of the Remington 700 VTR is not favorable. What may be true for most of the production models cannot be said for mine … it is a lemon. I’ve taken it to two gunsmiths and both recommended “send it back to Remington … there’s something terribly wrong with the barrel” which I have through the dealer who sold me the rifle. History … attempting to zero … started at 50 yards … off the target. Moved to 15 yards … on the paper … even a nice 8 shot group then no idea of where the bullets impacted. Waited until dusk … back to 50 yards … used cartridge design laser to correlate laser dot to crosshairs of Nightforce 3.5 to 15 scope. Fired 30 rounds none of which made an impression on an 8.5×11 target. Bullets fired: Sierra 55 gr. HPBT and Hornady 55 gr FMJBT, 25 gr IMR 4064, Remington 7.5 HL primers (hand loads) AND Federal 55 gr FMJBT (factory) – no change in performance.
    The trigger is not adjustable that releases the sear normally at 4 lb. but will occasionally trip at 3.5 lb. Note: It is my choice and practice to change the factory trigger and replace it with a Jewell trigger that trips the sear at 1 lb. which is a better match for my style of shooting.
    I would not have written this comment except that this is the second 700 series rifle (previous was a .300 Winchester Magnum that I purchased for my son) that I’ve had to send back to the factory for corrective action.
    What is the primary, in my opinion, best quality of this rifle? The flat surface of the triangular barrel allows you to utilized scope rings one level lower than that which you can use with a circular barrel.
    I found that I had to relieve the stock so that it didn’t bind. Not a huge task but something that needed to be done so that the barrel floated. If the rifle zero’s when it comes back from the factory I’ll replace it with a better stock. The factory stock does not have sufficient strength to withstand pressure stress at the forearm compromising the barrel’s ability to float.
    Do I regret this purchase? Yes. If it performed as advertised from the factory the rifle would be satisfactory for recreational use. I do not deem it sufficient for varmint hunting.
    I’ll stipulate that my judgment is tempered by my experience with my Remington 40XB in .308 which has been very satisfactory. Unfortunately, Remington’s Custom Shop has not been inclined to provide a 40XB in .223.