Comments on: GSG-5 : .22 MP5 pattern rifle http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:24:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: GW http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-58604 GW Thu, 24 Mar 2011 15:47:00 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/#comment-58604 And for John Baker, yes, i have used CCI's HP mini-mags and they work great. If your planning to use these in the GSG MP5 as a personal defense weapon, then i have a few suggestions: you mentioned you were concerned about spraying 223 rounds everywhere and potentially hurting someone that you didnt mean to shoot (which i absolutly agree with) but you also said you own a few 9mm weapons. why not use those? I recently bought a highpoint 9mm rifle and it rocks! (which im sure you already know). it would be perfect for the job. Compact, light weight, accurate, reliable, versatile, powerful...everything you would look for in a self defense weapon, right? Not to say the GSG MP5 isnt any of those things, but it just lacks the stopping power. Even with stopping power there comes recoil, the highpoint does not kick much at all, so no worries about recovering for follow up shots. Not to mention it will fire just as fast as the GSG if you have a quick finger and it makes ALOT more noise than a 22 does which has a big impact on guy at the other end of the barrel. It also seems like your worried about ammo. Pro Mag makes 15 round magazines for the highpoint 9mm and there are double magazine pouches available too. And the 9mm round isnt like a rifle cartridge that keeps going. High muzzle volecity, but putters out after a short distance and a wall or two later. And if you dont wanna take the chance, which who does, get some hollow point 9mm's. Garunteed to stop at the first thing they hit.......Ok, i think thats it....And for anyone reading this, i am NOT putting down the GSG MP5 in any way at all, and i do realize the 22. does have the ability to fend off thugs and definitly has the ability to be lethal. If you still think the GSG MP5 is still the best choice, i would look into buying the 100 round drum for it. Then theres no chance of running out. They also make dual mags. Aint the guys at GSG great? haha And for John Baker, yes, i have used CCI’s HP mini-mags and they work great. If your planning to use these in the GSG MP5 as a personal defense weapon, then i have a few suggestions: you mentioned you were concerned about spraying 223 rounds everywhere and potentially hurting someone that you didnt mean to shoot (which i absolutly agree with) but you also said you own a few 9mm weapons. why not use those? I recently bought a highpoint 9mm rifle and it rocks! (which im sure you already know). it would be perfect for the job. Compact, light weight, accurate, reliable, versatile, powerful…everything you would look for in a self defense weapon, right? Not to say the GSG MP5 isnt any of those things, but it just lacks the stopping power. Even with stopping power there comes recoil, the highpoint does not kick much at all, so no worries about recovering for follow up shots. Not to mention it will fire just as fast as the GSG if you have a quick finger and it makes ALOT more noise than a 22 does which has a big impact on guy at the other end of the barrel. It also seems like your worried about ammo. Pro Mag makes 15 round magazines for the highpoint 9mm and there are double magazine pouches available too. And the 9mm round isnt like a rifle cartridge that keeps going. High muzzle volecity, but putters out after a short distance and a wall or two later. And if you dont wanna take the chance, which who does, get some hollow point 9mm’s. Garunteed to stop at the first thing they hit…….Ok, i think thats it….And for anyone reading this, i am NOT putting down the GSG MP5 in any way at all, and i do realize the 22. does have the ability to fend off thugs and definitly has the ability to be lethal. If you still think the GSG MP5 is still the best choice, i would look into buying the 100 round drum for it. Then theres no chance of running out. They also make dual mags. Aint the guys at GSG great? haha

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]]> By: GW http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-58510 GW Wed, 23 Mar 2011 17:37:02 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/#comment-58510 shooting my mp5 today and something went wrong. i had been shooting for about 30 minutes and put about 50 rounds through it and on the last few shots in the clip, it didnt fire like there was a dud or something. so i go to pull back the reciever to clear it and it would only go back half way. then i realized there was somethin rattling inside the stock so i took it off and two little pieces came out: a little metal O-ring (broken), and a silver bolt (about an inch long). you can see where it screws into a silver block at the back. cant find my parts list and cant find any online, so can anyone help me? i dont know if this usually happens or what...ive probly put, my guestimation, about a 1000 rounds through my gun. anyway, if you can help, please be quick to tell me. shooting my mp5 today and something went wrong. i had been shooting for about 30 minutes and put about 50 rounds through it and on the last few shots in the clip, it didnt fire like there was a dud or something. so i go to pull back the reciever to clear it and it would only go back half way. then i realized there was somethin rattling inside the stock so i took it off and two little pieces came out: a little metal O-ring (broken), and a silver bolt (about an inch long). you can see where it screws into a silver block at the back. cant find my parts list and cant find any online, so can anyone help me? i dont know if this usually happens or what…ive probly put, my guestimation, about a 1000 rounds through my gun. anyway, if you can help, please be quick to tell me.

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]]> By: george h. w. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-40540 george h. w. Fri, 13 Aug 2010 18:37:58 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/#comment-40540 I,ve had a 2nd gen. GSG for several months. The second gen gun has an ejector that is riveted on the receiver, as opposed fo the first gen gun. The GSG is very accurate, from a rest, I can get about 1 in groups at 50 yards, with the iron sights, using Federal h.p. 35 gr. carts. I recommend using low strength Locktite on all the machine screws and nuts . There are over 20 of these! I,ve had a 2nd gen. GSG for several months. The second gen gun has an ejector that is riveted on the receiver, as opposed fo the first gen gun. The GSG is very accurate, from a rest, I can get about 1 in groups at 50 yards, with the iron sights, using Federal h.p. 35 gr. carts. I recommend using low strength Locktite on all the machine screws and nuts . There are over 20 of these!

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]]> By: Jeff Williams http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-40462 Jeff Williams Wed, 11 Aug 2010 20:06:00 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/#comment-40462 I have 2 first gen GSG5s consecutivly numbered. SHould I get the other one and save these 2? There is one more at the shop. What is the difference between 1st gen and 2nd gen? Asked but not answered. When were in the army we had a class about gunshot wounds. ER Drs said the worst round to get shot with... this was in the 80's was a 22 mag due to the tumbling after impact. They would tag them they oughta know. I have 2 first gen GSG5s consecutivly numbered. SHould I get the other one and save these 2? There is one more at the shop.
What is the difference between 1st gen and 2nd gen? Asked but not answered.
When were in the army we had a class about gunshot wounds. ER Drs said the worst round to get shot with… this was in the 80′s was a 22 mag due to the tumbling after impact. They would tag them they oughta know.

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]]> By: James Gammon http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-40029 James Gammon Thu, 05 Aug 2010 22:04:21 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/#comment-40029 In the military I trained on the M16 with the .223. The characteristic that made it so lethal was that between 50 to 100 the bullet began tumbling. In the military I trained on the M16 with the .223. The characteristic that made it so lethal was that between 50 to 100 the bullet began tumbling.

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]]> By: John Baker http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-37119 John Baker Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:05:55 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/#comment-37119 I own both the pistol and carbine and when I went to shoot them I had bought a scope mount and redot sights for both so didn't used the iron sights and the sights were adjusted perfectly right on target consistently...........I would suggest the same. I own both the pistol and carbine and when I went to shoot them I had bought a scope mount and redot sights for both so didn’t used the iron sights and the sights were adjusted perfectly right on target consistently………..I would suggest the same.

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]]> By: GW http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-37069 GW Sun, 27 Jun 2010 23:19:40 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/#comment-37069 ok ive had my gsg5 for about a year now and got it at gander mtn. I dont know what the problem is, but out of the box it shoots about 4 inches down, and about an inch to the left CONSISTANTLY with different types of ammuniton....?? other people besides me have shot this gun and have had the same result. ive read other reviews and havnt read anything negative about its accuracy. i dont know if should have it looked at or if i should talk to the dealer or whatever....any suggestions? and by the way, besides that one problem ive had with it, AWESOME gun! ive cycled clips of the cheapest, crappiest, most low grade ammo through it and ive only had one hang up where the shell didnt fully exit the reciever! As for the design and quality, it is very sturdy, although it has a slight woble in the stock which ive heard is normal. any help would be useful :) ok ive had my gsg5 for about a year now and got it at gander mtn. I dont know what the problem is, but out of the box it shoots about 4 inches down, and about an inch to the left CONSISTANTLY with different types of ammuniton….?? other people besides me have shot this gun and have had the same result. ive read other reviews and havnt read anything negative about its accuracy. i dont know if should have it looked at or if i should talk to the dealer or whatever….any suggestions? and by the way, besides that one problem ive had with it, AWESOME gun! ive cycled clips of the cheapest, crappiest, most low grade ammo through it and ive only had one hang up where the shell didnt fully exit the reciever! As for the design and quality, it is very sturdy, although it has a slight woble in the stock which ive heard is normal. any help would be useful :)

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]]> By: RG http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-30248 RG Wed, 07 Apr 2010 03:10:13 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/#comment-30248 Nice gun but 10-15,000 of the SD version being recalled according to ATF. The Faux Suppressors are deemed illegal and in violation of NAF and ATI/GSG apparantly knew about them last year during manufacture and shipping. ATI/GSG have never been known for great customer service, now it appears they shipped to dealers weapons that were NEVER authorized or suspect at best. According to ATF, the standard GSG-5 version is not part of the current recall, but likely may be at a later date. Nice gun but 10-15,000 of the SD version being recalled according to ATF. The Faux Suppressors are deemed illegal and in violation of NAF and ATI/GSG apparantly knew about them last year during manufacture and shipping. ATI/GSG have never been known for great customer service, now it appears they shipped to dealers weapons that were NEVER authorized or suspect at best. According to ATF, the standard GSG-5 version is not part of the current recall, but likely may be at a later date.

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]]> By: Jason B. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-14105 Jason B. Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:48:31 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/#comment-14105 a tip 2 any1 that wants 2 make the most out of a 22 cal weapon take each round and shave about 1/20 off one side w/ a knife. When the bullet hits a person it will yaw more than usual and do the damage of a 30 cal bullet. u lose accuracy but its still more accurate than a 9mm The 22 kicks A if u know how 2 use it a tip 2 any1 that wants 2 make the most out of a 22 cal weapon take each round and shave about 1/20 off one side w/ a knife. When the bullet hits a person it will yaw more than usual and do the damage of a 30 cal bullet. u lose accuracy but its still more accurate than a 9mm
The 22 kicks A if u know how 2 use it

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]]> By: John Baker http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-12918 John Baker Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:21:27 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/#comment-12918 Sorry, I forgot add to the last entry of the CCIs that they were also LR mini-mags. Has anyone used them in the GSG-5? Sorry, I forgot add to the last entry of the CCIs that they were also LR mini-mags. Has anyone used them in the GSG-5?

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]]> By: John Baker http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-12916 John Baker Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:45:59 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/#comment-12916 Has anyone used CCIs .40 grain jacketed 22s in the GSG-5? Has anyone used CCIs .40 grain jacketed 22s in the GSG-5?

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]]> By: John Baker http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-12915 John Baker Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:38:54 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/#comment-12915 I agree with all that Troy S. said. I liked the GSG-2 carbine so much, I ordered the last in stock a GSG-5PK ($409) from Shooters Jax. And I plan using it as a defensive weapon when I get it. I own 2 liquor stores. And the one I am at all day is in a little town just east of down town Houston off I-10. Crime is way up here and this town has a large increase also. I wear a Colt 45 1911 on my side all day 6 days a week (CHL)and open on my side in the store. My greatest concern is getting ambushed when I am going from my store to my parked car, on the way home, and when I get home. I am very much involved with "Airsoft battles" (when the temp's permits) and know that "cover fire" can be very useful. I own an Olympic OA 93 223 pistol, as well as a Colt AR15 9mm, Hi point 9mm, and a Thompson like 9mm however, my free standing store is surrounded by homes and other businesses and fear spraying the bad boy(s) area with 9mm or 223 concerns me. Having 2 22 round mags (Pistol on a bongi sling under my jacket) and 2 8-round 45 mags on me for the Colt 1911 would hopefully give me the fire superiorty of both cover fire & fire power. Even though a HP 22 would not stop one in their tracks, just getting shot/wounded in a robbery attempt could be enough to break the attack off. And I would rather hit them with several 22s than miss with a 45 because of recovering from the recoil. When you have just a pistol, most are unwilling to unload their full 8-15 round mag when their target is not standing in front of them. I can unload a 22/22 round mag, and still have another clamped 22rd mag plus my 45 to continue the fight. When these illegals rob down here they do it in numbers not one on one. And if I had to choose between carrying just one weapon, I would choose 22rd mag x 2 than a Colt 45 8 round when ambushed on the outside. "Different strokes for different folks" (in different situations). I agree with all that Troy S. said. I liked the GSG-2 carbine so much, I ordered the last in stock a GSG-5PK ($409) from Shooters Jax. And I plan using it as a defensive weapon when I get it. I own 2 liquor stores. And the one I am at all day is in a little town just east of down town Houston off I-10. Crime is way up here and this town has a large increase also. I wear a Colt 45 1911 on my side all day 6 days a week (CHL)and open on my side in the store. My greatest concern is getting ambushed when I am going from my store to my parked car, on the way home, and when I get home. I am very much involved with “Airsoft battles” (when the temp’s permits) and know that “cover fire” can be very useful. I own an Olympic OA 93 223 pistol, as well as a Colt AR15 9mm, Hi point 9mm, and a Thompson like 9mm however, my free standing store is surrounded by homes and other businesses and fear spraying the bad boy(s) area with 9mm or 223 concerns me. Having 2 22 round mags (Pistol on a bongi sling under my jacket) and 2 8-round 45 mags on me for the Colt 1911 would hopefully give me the fire superiorty of both cover fire & fire power. Even though a HP 22 would not stop one in their tracks, just getting shot/wounded in a robbery attempt could be enough to break the attack off. And I would rather hit them with several 22s than miss with a 45 because of recovering from the recoil. When you have just a pistol, most are unwilling to unload their full 8-15 round mag when their target is not standing in front of them. I can unload a 22/22 round mag, and still have another clamped 22rd mag plus my 45 to continue the fight. When these illegals rob down here they do it in numbers not one on one. And if I had to choose between carrying just one weapon, I would choose 22rd mag x 2 than a Colt 45 8 round when ambushed on the outside. “Different strokes for different folks” (in different situations).

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]]> By: Troy S. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-12902 Troy S. Wed, 05 Aug 2009 03:54:31 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/#comment-12902 .22 only practical purpose over 9mm is the cost and 9mm are fairly inexpensive. I like my .22's primarily because of being able to fire all day without a dent in my wallet but more importantly you don't need any ear protection. It's great to walk around with a buddy poppin off rounds and being able to hold a conversation. I would be deaf if I was doing that with my 9mm's. Sure a .22 can be lethal but so can a rock thrown at someones head. The point is that for the common shooter a 9mm rifle would be way more lethal than a .22. (I think that Beretta Storm is bomb bomb) I would easily say that a 9mm round is the all around best purpose round there is taking into consideration price, versatility, availability, and variety. If you want about the all around best civilian "killing rifle" and price is not that big of a deal but you want to avoid a second mortgage, get an ar-10 and fire some .308 at a person and I guarantee they will die faster than a .22. Plus they are legal for big game. yeah yeah you could say get an ar-50 but I am staying within the realm of a reasonable civilian firearm. Although I have often thought about buying a .50, but I don't think I want the ATF and FBI to set up a field office in my backyard. As far as the argument that the military uses a .223 and therefore since it's "about the same as a .22" then the .22 must be lethal is so illogical that I can't begin to start-but I will try. This argument is like saying a bicycle and a crotch rocket are about the same because they are about the same size. Reeeetarded. Furthermore, the military started using .223 because they were LESS lethal than other rounds. They did this because they found that injuring 1 enemy combatant would theoretically take 3 out of the game because 2 would have to drag off their fallen comrade. If you killed the guy then there would be less urgency to haul them off the battlefield to safety. Ok now I have cleared up everyones confusion on this topic, have a nice day. .22 only practical purpose over 9mm is the cost and 9mm are fairly inexpensive. I like my .22′s primarily because of being able to fire all day without a dent in my wallet but more importantly you don’t need any ear protection. It’s great to walk around with a buddy poppin off rounds and being able to hold a conversation. I would be deaf if I was doing that with my 9mm’s.

Sure a .22 can be lethal but so can a rock thrown at someones head. The point is that for the common shooter a 9mm rifle would be way more lethal than a .22. (I think that Beretta Storm is bomb bomb) I would easily say that a 9mm round is the all around best purpose round there is taking into consideration price, versatility, availability, and variety. If you want about the all around best civilian “killing rifle” and price is not that big of a deal but you want to avoid a second mortgage, get an ar-10 and fire some .308 at a person and I guarantee they will die faster than a .22. Plus they are legal for big game. yeah yeah you could say get an ar-50 but I am staying within the realm of a reasonable civilian firearm. Although I have often thought about buying a .50, but I don’t think I want the ATF and FBI to set up a field office in my backyard.

As far as the argument that the military uses a .223 and therefore since it’s “about the same as a .22″ then the .22 must be lethal is so illogical that I can’t begin to start-but I will try.

This argument is like saying a bicycle and a crotch rocket are about the same because they are about the same size. Reeeetarded.

Furthermore, the military started using .223 because they were LESS lethal than other rounds. They did this because they found that injuring 1 enemy combatant would theoretically take 3 out of the game because 2 would have to drag off their fallen comrade. If you killed the guy then there would be less urgency to haul them off the battlefield to safety.

Ok now I have cleared up everyones confusion on this topic, have a nice day.

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]]> By: John Baker http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-12792 John Baker Sun, 02 Aug 2009 23:02:33 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/#comment-12792 I rec'd my GSG-5 carbine from Jax Shooters in Florida for $449. and bought lots of extras from www.gsg-5.com. I put an after market 552 sight on it. I shot it today and sighted it in..................WOW! Very impressed with it and had only 1 miss fire where the .22 cartridge didn't fire. I used Federal copper plated HPs. I just loved the Halo 552 sight as you kept your both eyes open on your target. Even at 50yds with rapid trigger pulls the sight stayed on target. Awesome weapon and would not hesitate using it as a defensive weapon due to its accuracy, quanity of fire power, and no recoil. Hitting a head size target at 50 yards with multiple shots is soooooooo easy. I highly reccommend getting a red dot or a halo 552 for this gun. I rec’d my GSG-5 carbine from Jax Shooters in Florida for $449. and bought lots of extras from http://www.gsg-5.com. I put an after market 552 sight on it. I shot it today and sighted it in………………WOW! Very impressed with it and had only 1 miss fire where the .22 cartridge didn’t fire. I used Federal copper plated HPs. I just loved the Halo 552 sight as you kept your both eyes open on your target. Even at 50yds with rapid trigger pulls the sight stayed on target. Awesome weapon and would not hesitate using it as a defensive weapon due to its accuracy, quanity of fire power, and no recoil. Hitting a head size target at 50 yards with multiple shots is soooooooo easy. I highly reccommend getting a red dot or a halo 552 for this gun.

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]]> By: cabopc http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-12789 cabopc Sun, 02 Aug 2009 20:12:39 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/#comment-12789 A guy at the range today was shooting one of these and I had to go take a look because it looked so darn cool. He was kind enough to let me fire a mag and now I've gotta have one. He had a cheap red-dot sight on it that worked great. A guy at the range today was shooting one of these and I had to go take a look because it looked so darn cool. He was kind enough to let me fire a mag and now I’ve gotta have one. He had a cheap red-dot sight on it that worked great.

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]]> By: Jim http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-12634 Jim Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:05:53 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/#comment-12634 What's the difference between the 1st generation and the 2nd generation? If no outward difference, how do you tell them apart? What’s the difference between the 1st generation and the 2nd generation? If no outward difference, how do you tell them apart?

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]]> By: Doug W http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-12180 Doug W Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:55:29 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/#comment-12180 I Got a 1st anniversary model that came with all sorts of extras, brushes,different sights posts, and other goodies. Does anyone know, what, the small hex pin that fits right on or into the bottom of the front of the barrel under the slingpost, (cocking handle)is for ?. its part number 95 on a breakdown of the GSG-5..the description is a firing pin retaining something or the other ....just wondering. Thanks D I Got a 1st anniversary model that came with all sorts of extras, brushes,different sights posts, and other goodies. Does anyone know, what, the small hex pin that fits right on or into the bottom of the front of the barrel under the slingpost, (cocking handle)is for ?. its part number 95 on a breakdown of the GSG-5..the description is a firing pin retaining something or the other ….just wondering.
Thanks D

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]]> By: Aaron http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-11490 Aaron Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:04:30 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/#comment-11490 As an ex-marine that served in 'Nam I once knew said to me, "I'd rather hit someone with a .22 than miss them with a .45" As an ex-marine that served in ‘Nam I once knew said to me, “I’d rather hit someone with a .22 than miss them with a .45″

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]]> By: anthony http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-11408 anthony Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:58:34 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/#comment-11408 i have a second generatioin gsg-5 and it is an overall great gun. The guy that says it has a disign flaw is completely wrong. I the only misshaps are due to the ammo. the gsg-5 fired perfectly out of the box and is no very loud. After shooting a few rounds i took the ear pluggs out. It is extremely fun and cheap to shoot. Only bad thing is the finish is subject to scratching if treated ruffly. i have shot many air rifles and NONE of them compair to the GSG. i would recomend getting one to all buyers. On other chat forums people say it can kill a deer with a head shot from 50 yards out. the fireing is smooth,fun, acurate, and consistent. The guy that says he has issues with his must have got the first generation and was lied to because all, if any, flaws were removed in the second generation. i have a second generatioin gsg-5 and it is an overall great gun. The guy that says it has a disign flaw is completely wrong. I the only misshaps are due to the ammo. the gsg-5 fired perfectly out of the box and is no very loud. After shooting a few rounds i took the ear pluggs out. It is extremely fun and cheap to shoot. Only bad thing is the finish is subject to scratching if treated ruffly. i have shot many air rifles and NONE of them compair to the GSG. i would recomend getting one to all buyers. On other chat forums people say it can kill a deer with a head shot from 50 yards out. the fireing is smooth,fun, acurate, and consistent. The guy that says he has issues with his must have got the first generation and was lied to because all, if any, flaws were removed in the second generation.

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]]> By: Duane http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-9843 Duane Sat, 23 May 2009 02:28:32 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/12/30/gsg-5-22-mp5-pattern-rifle/#comment-9843 I have a gsg 5 2nd generation,it jams 2 of 50 rounds. No one seams to know about scope mounts not fitting. Dealers have not heard of this problem. I took mine all the way down to find the problem,it is a disign flaw. Need help to find a mount or parts replacement. I have a gsg 5 2nd generation,it jams 2 of 50 rounds. No one seams to know about scope mounts not fitting. Dealers have not heard of this problem. I took mine all the way down to find the problem,it is a disign flaw. Need help to find a mount or parts replacement.

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