SIG SAUER P250
SIG have just launched the new SIG SAUER P250 pistol. What makes this pistol interesting is its ability to change calibers!
The frame and fire control groups are available for calibers 9mm, .45, .40 S&W and .357SIG can be changed into three different families of grips: Subcompact, Compact and Full (each available in three sizes). Two types of triggers, standard and short. Very cool!
Overall there are (including left/right hand configuration) 144 different combinations, not bad straight out of the factory.
From SIGSAUER.com
The P250, a modular pistol that allows the shooter to change caliber and size at will.
The SIG SAUER P250 was designed specifically to address the future needs of the military, law enforcement, and civilian shooters around the world. The P250 will be available in the most popular calibers;(9mm, .357SIG, .40S&W and .45ACP). The P250′s innovative design enables the shooter to quickly remove the functional mechanism and place it into the polymer grip of his choice. This allows an immediate change in caliber and size;(subcompact, compact and full). And after any change the pistol delivers both outstanding accuracy and reliable functionality.
It’s modularity not only provides incredible ease of maintenance, but also provides a solution for accommodating different hand sizes – there are 6 different ergonomic combinations for each size, accomplished by changes in grip circumference and trigger style. Now you can own the world’s only modular shooting system globally engineered to deliver the “to hell and back” reliability you’ve come to expect from Sig Sauer.
Caliber 9mm
Trigger Pull DAO 5.5 – 6.5 lbs
Overall Length 7.20″
Overall Height w/ Mag 5.12″
Overall Width 1.3″ (Std. Grip)
Sight Radius 5.79″
Sights SIGLITE® Night Sights
Weight w/ Mag 24.60oz
Magazine Capacity 9mm 16 Rounds
Grips Interchangeable Polymer
Finish Nitron®
MSRP $699.00
CA Compliant No
MA Compliant No
Here is a video about the pistol
Hat Tip: Real Gun Guys
Can anybody tell me how I can tell when my p250 40 2 sub was manufactured, and I also read about upgrades on these guns from SS, does anybody know what specifically are they upgrading? If mine is manufactured before the updated guns, should I send it to SS for upgrading? Thanks for any information.
You should be able able to get the serial number from the retail store and call sig. There customer service is A+. Im sure they would b happy to answer your question and would have easy access to the information.
Mine was outdated, and had a light strike. Sent the firearm to sig and they fixed the problem. Now I’ve never had to call customer service for any of my sigs besides my p250 .45 compact model. They had a fast turn around, but why buy a gun if you know it doesnt. If it does not have update you may wanna check the sp2022 in 9m. Very similiar in size and weight, and is a sa/da model with a decocker feature. There are many police and military that carry the sp2022. Now if you are looking for a DAO then the 250 is a fine firearm after the updates.
Sig Man do you know if you can buy the complete trigger assembly so that the 2-sum can actually be a functioning 2 gun set?
I am in the market for a SIG P250 2SUM kit in 9mm. My local dealer has one in stock and has a manufacture date of 12-16-2010. My question is does this contain the updates/changes many have referenced. I see that December of 2010 seems to be the date the changes were put in place but I need to confirm this build date is post change. Thanks in advance for the help.
Sent it in today, Sig says they’ll fix it. They paid shipping and turnaround is supposed to be 10 days? ………At the present time, I gotta say that this is an embarrassment of a gun and I am leaning towards just getting it back when it’s fixed and then selling it so I can make another purchase on a 45 I can count on. This was my first sig purchase and I am pretty certain, my last ! In my 25 years of being around guns and buying/ shooting / hunting……..I have never seen such a poor performance by any gun, period !!……even my russian WW2 rifle I got for $100, that sat in cosmoline grease for 70 years , performed flawless, yet this sig p250 – 45 seems like a pile of junk !!
I have received a lot of comments on the P250C. I have well over 3000 rounds in my P250 and have had to replace a lot of parts already. It has been to hell and back, being in two academies and a firearms instructor course. I have had to replace the rear night sight after 10 months. During my firearm instructor course the trigger bar spring broke into a thousand pieces and the slide lock spring under the bar was broke also. Sig replaced every trigger piece for me.
I love how it fits in my cross breed holster for off duty and will now be my off-duty weapon.
Two academies after mine, a cadet’s P250 break in half. The slide cracked and the grip blow apart in his hand. The academy fireamrs instructor told me that he has seen a lot of these guns do this in the past two years. Just beware and contact Sig with all of your problems so they can recall these guns and make them better.
Tom H, with all those problems your actually going to carry it as a duty weapon? I’ve lost faith in your comments alone.
I just got my new P250 45 ………..and was sorely disappointed. I had 30-40% misfires due to light strikes. I was using white box winchester rounds. I guess I get to be the next guy to call sig customer service……..NOT WHAT I WANTED TO DO !!!
Hello all,
I would like to tell all who have seen some jamming on the Sig p250, there seems to be good news. My Sig was starting to jam some…maybe 5 Or 6 times
out of 150 rounds. I cleaned the slide with rubbing alcohol and used a tooth brush on the extract, make sure it is super clean. Next re lube the slide, but
super super light and only on the places you see wear on. I then tested my Sig
oh how it fired so prefect…..prefect. My Sig seems to love being almost dry.
I really think the extractor had also gotten dirty. Try this I think you will see
better operation.
My wife purchased a Sig P250 2sum in 40 caliber for me for XMas, looking at the add from Sig and believing what the add said, you get 2 guns for 1 price and yes the price was decent. But the advertising was misleading and what you get is one gun in full size and a subcompact of the same caliber which is a kit which you need interchangeable parts from the full size gun. A real bummer to say the least because you can only have one shooting gun at a time and what is a gun if it doesn’t shoot? – A TOY. Sig refused any adjustment and literally hung up on me. The P250 shoots poorer than any gun I have ever used and I have a Springfield XD in .40, an XDM in 9mm, and a 1911 from Colt. I could barely hit a target at 25 yards with preset sights and after adjustments only a bit better. With my other pistols under the same conditions, I shoot better than many of my friends who are Border Patrol or Cops. After 285 rounds the housing cracked and Sig agreed to replace it for $100. If this is the customer service of what I was informed was a great gun, I’ll stick to my Remington 870 in 12 gauge with 00 Buckshot. I’ll never again buy ANY SIG SAUER PRODUCT and I strongly recommend everyone take a close look at it before buying. There is a reason you can get the P250 at such a great price – “THE GUN SUCKS.”
Cliff,
You comments are spot on! I’m sorry you had to learn it the hard way! Purchase anything but a 250! the 229 is a tried a true platform!
Just shot 100 rounds with my p250 using remington ammo and white box winchester both 115 grain. no problems at all. I dont recommend using the PMC Ammo with the P250 those casing kept hitting my face. i favor the winchester ammo since today. I still got to get use to the long dao trigger. I love my glock 23 40 cal. but my sig p250 is a good backup.
Well its very new, i have the 9mm compact. i will try the white winchester 115 grain. i cant remember what ammo i was using? but i put 50 round thru it..and 30% of the casings were ejecting towards my face.. ouch! i still need to break it in. i will try using the ammo you recommend, tnx. i hope its just finding the right ammo and not the gun. i see theres alot of mixed reviews on the p250 i like it tho, cool parts!! i plan to get the 45 fs,, very affordable, and its SIG.. cant knock it. i will follow up on the ejector issue.
I have FS 40 SW and .357. I also use the CCI for practice and went to the Hornady Cridical Defense 146g red tips since they are better and much more accurate then the Cor Bon’s I used previously. When I first got the P250 I had some crappy stuff and had one spent hit my head. I have not had any since using the above ammo.
That is a problem i haven’t heard or read about. What caliber are you firing? Different calibers produce different recoils. I have P250 in 9mm, .40 S&W and .45 ACP. Have not been hit by a casing. My practice rounds are all FMJ, either white Winchester or CCI. I’ve also fired some Hornady and COR BON HPs. If you are firing .45 you might get some rotation on recoil.
I’ve found that .45 is the most comfortable round in the P250 and produces the tightest groups for me. In .40 I get trigger finger sting. 9mm I never fire as well in any handgun.
Like you said, the trigger is smooth. DAO is a great trigger because the pull is always consistent. No throwaway first round. I would like to fire the Sig DAK trigger, just to compare. They should make a DAK receiver to fit the P250.
The modularity is a big point with me. I have four grips in two sizes, four barrels, three slides. It’s fun to take to the range for self defense work.
I just purchased the latest version of P250, i put 100 rounds down range with it. I love how smooth the P250 functions.. and less recoil them my G23. I do have one problem, the casings are ejecting towards me and not to the right.. the shells kept hitting me. Can anyone here give me input on this matter? Also what kind of rounds are good for my P250?
I had been having soft primer strikes, and slept on sending mine back to Sig. I got it back after a week and a half, and couldn’t be happier.
They checked it out, upgraded the trigger group and extractor, replaced the slide and put 75 down the pipe – no issues. I fired off another 150 at the range (Remington which had always given me issues and Blazer brass) and not one hiccup. Stay tuned.
Waffles, you are correct. SS is discounting the p250s to dealers, based on advertised prices. SS is offering 20% off of x-change kits, grips, barrels, mags and some accessories. Once they got through the shakedown blues, they are trying to hit the market hard. Recently I ordered an x-change kit in fs, .45 ACP and asked for small grips because I find that I control my sc with small grips very well. Turned out that the x-change kits came only in medium grips, so the cs rep threw in the small grips at no charge.
I’m getting a good feeling about the p250. Now I have all three sizes and two calibers for the compact. I don’t know how many rounds I have fired of 9mm and .40 S&W — at least 500 — most at rapid rates of fire and have had no malfunctions. I’m using Winchester white box and CCI fmj range rounds. The Winchester white box 9mm can be found in bulk at about $0.21.
Once when switching the FCU, the trigger bar spring flew off, but it’s no big deal to remount. If it had flown off at an outdoor range I would have been ordering a new spring.
I read a complaint that the trigger reset required a full return and that there was no click. Mine resets about halfway with a click that I can feel and hear. That would indicate an engineering design change by SS.
The DAO pull is less than the DA in most SA/DA pistols, so I found it easy to gain the muscle memory. I’m liking DAO much better than the confusing pulls of SA/DA pistols. There is consistency by using the same FCU in three sizes and multiple calibers. I would like to try the SS DAK SAO trigger action. Surprisingly, it’s a heavier rated pull than the p250. I don’t understand why SS did not incorporate DAK into the p250.
I agree with you that a lot of the critical comments seem to carry over from the early production. It’s too bad that SS did not eliminate some of the engineering defects before they brought the p250s to the market.
Brian, what make of 9mm ammunition are you firing?
I have the 250 compact. and although i love the DAO, triger pull, and accuracy i m having a great deal of trouble with the gun not extracting the spent casing. If i have a mag of 10 or more it jams after about every two rounds.
Been a while since I’ve been on here. I bought my P250 .40 S&W Compact few years back. It had the old Style grip / mags. I recently upgraded to the new style grip and mags. I do like the feel of it and stopped at the range last week to try it. It shot awesome and I enjoyed the feel of it. Not sure why they upgraded to the new style, but Sig Sauer gave me a good price. No complaints, just praise!
There are 2 places that talk about the P250, this one and: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/05/01/sig-sauer-p250-review/
I should also say that I only paid $390 for my 250
I bought my p250/fs 9mm two weeks ago. I love it. I haven’t had a lot of time to spend at the range, but have put 200 rounds through it( mostly federal fmj) without a single jam misfire etc. Accuracy isn’t the best I’ve seen in other full sized 9mm but an experienced shooter cam still get some pretty type groups. I’m surprised to read so many bad reviews. Hope Sig follows through with their commitments to you guys. Looking at some of the dates on these posts I think the newer guns are more reliable.
Traded a .40 S&w for this piece of fine engineering well calculated piece of machinery. If i had to do it all over again i would spend the extra $$$ on an extra mag…. Shot 500 rds thus far not issues and VERY accurate. I believe it depends on the person handling the weapon and not the weapon GOOD JOB YET AGAIN SIG!
I would appreciate any informed opinion about using a 9mm barrel in a p250c .40. I purchased the barrel from a Sig cs rep. When the barrel arrived, I had second thoughts because the rod and recoil spring on my p250sc 9mm was much different than the rod and recoil spring on my p250 .40. So I called and spoke with another cs rep, who said I should have ordered an entire X-conversion kit. Well, the 9mm barrel had taken so long to arrive that I decided to try it in my p250c using the .40 rod, spring and slide. I put 100 rounds through it today and it worked perfectly.
So, was I asking for trouble? Am I asking for trouble if I continue to use the 9mm barrel with the .40 rod and recoil spring?
Regarding the disturbing ‘policy change’ in my previous post. I called Sig today and while it is true they don’t sell mag springs for the P250, they don’t sell mag springs or components for any gun. But that’s because Sig doesn’t make the mags – Checkmate and Mecgar makes the mags for Sig. And that’s been the case for quite some time.
And, according to Sig, components including springs can be purchased from CheckMate, Mecgar, and Wolff Gunsprings.
Just a case of bad info.
Hey Gunny,
That ‘Commander’ will grow on you. I like big guns like the P250 fs, but I’ve really taken to this combination.
I read something that is quite disturbing about a change in Sig’s policy about the P250. It seems that Sig will not sell mag springs for the P250 either wholesale or retail. It looks like if one wishes to replace a mag spring in a P250 mag he’ll have to buy a new mag.
Wonder why Sig would do that, and why just the P250?
Hello ALL,
OK, trying to reply to some in one message, so look for your name:
“Not a Fan”: The only P250′s (imho) that were working at 100% out of the box, with NO issues what so ever are the “Subcompacts”, as they were not released in quantities until March/April 2010 time frame. All of the issues were resolved when the platform was released. Also, any P250 that was “BUILT” after Dec 2010, should also be 100% out of the box. So even if you got a compact, it could still have come from older stock, since no one has any idea how long a shop has had inventory and who knows what stock was sent to them to begin with. I would call them every couple of days for an update, as you should have your handgun back very soon! The newer versions have the updated Grip modules. If you look at the Grip Modules on the pictures at the start of this thread, they are the old version. If it had those Grip Modules, it is definitely from “OLDER” stock. Go you Sig’s home page and look up the P250, all of them now have the NEW Grip Modules. However, even with the newer grip modules, it still could have had some old internals! I am really curious as to what they find as the culprit! There is NO doubt however, that when you get it back, it will become the love of your life, fear not!
“TANGLE”: That is what I just got done doing as well, thanks you for the great suggestion and pictures! That is one SWEET piece, and I now have one in my stable as well! Love it!
“AaronB”: Sorry to hear your frustration. Since you bought a “Compact” I would contact Sig ASAP! It will NOT cost you a single cent and it goes from you to them back to you, and their turn around time is usually pretty quick! I take it this is happening in more than one magazine, or do you only have the one that it came with (How I wish Sig would provide more mags with a new purchase). You may want to know that Sig sells Mags from their web si9te was well as a new “Compact Mag Adapters”, which are really sweet! Regarding your Build Date, look on the case your handgun came in, it should have a date one of the stickers near the serial number. Example, Mine says March 29, 2010. I called Sig to verify that date when I bought mine and it was confirmed. So if you have that date on yours, that is the build date. Just make sure it is not a sticker from your shop. You can also call Sig and ask for that info as well, just have your Serial Number ready. I also believe they will provide you with a really nice Sig Certificate of Build for $$, again call to check…
Well, I hope I got everyone, fear not Sig will get you straight and true! Till next time!
Gunny
Thanks tangle, guess I’ll be calling sig and getting this fixed. Kind of disappointing to say the least.
AaronB,
No need to wait or shoot more. I shot less than 50 rounds through my P250 and it was doing that. I called Sig, they emailed the shipping ticket, fixed the gun and delivered it to my doorstep in 10 days. It’s been as reliable as a fine clock ever since.
Took my p250 out today and put 150 rounds of federal fmj through it. Had 4 jams, always the last bullet in the magazine. Pretty pissed to say the least. Shot 200 rounds through my ruger p95 without a hitch. I will say this though, the sig is dead on accurate and I love the trigger pull on it. 4 jams is 4 too many as far as I’m concerned.
Gunny, should I contact sig or wait until I put a couple hundred more rounds through it? The fact that it was always the last bullet makes me think that maybe something is wrong with the magazine and I just need to break it in a bit more.
Gunny,
I will be in contact with sig and post all results here. The model i bought was a compact model, not full size. Im pretty sure its a newer version it has the p-rail and night sights.
I want to ‘second’ what Gunny has said, and reiterate that as of Dec 2010 all P250s have all updates. It is possible to get a pre-Dec 2010 gun that is in someone’s stock and if you do it may not work reliably. I had that very thing happen to me. Sig fixed in a turn around of 10 days and the gun that was jamming about 10 time in a box of 50 rounds, has now over 1000 through it without any problem whatsoever.
These guns run when they have all the latest updates and a lot of older guns have run thousands of rounds flawlessly.
Then, here’s the P250 9mm “Commander”. I took a fs frame (39.95 free shipping) and cut the front back to the compact size and installed a compact slide. Here’s what I got:
[img]http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5051/5543908928_fb359eea19_z.jpg[/img]
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5051/5543908928_fb359eea19_z.jpg
This is the equivalent of the 1911 Commander proportions to the fs 1911 – full-size, 17 rd grip and mag, comact size barrel and slide, and it happens that it shortens it by that same 3/4″ as the 1911 version.
I wasn’t feeling up to par yesterday and almost didn’t go shooting with it. But I had just finished it and couldn’t resist. So it wasn’t a ‘better’ day, but at it wasn’t a bad day either.
I don’t think pics will post here but I included a image link and a link as well.
[img]http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5132/5547584690_d0b3c147ae_z.jpg[/img]
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5132/5547584690_d0b3c147ae_z.jpg
There may be a little degradation in group size due to the shorter sight radius, but I can’t claim that for sure; at least not in 50 rounds.
No malfunctions of any kind. Now I need to give it some carry time and shoot it some more.
Hey Gunny – congrats on the mags and adaptors. It’s funny, my fs/compact mags are still on backorder. It is my understanding that Sig has the kits, but have them on an internal hold, but I don’t know why. Could be they’re waiting to see if they are gonna need the mags for the fs guns or xchg kits, but that’s just speculation.
Hey “Not a Fan”,
I would almost bet the problem was related to the “TRIGGER BAR SPRING”! From what you describe, that sounds like the likely candidate. Without that working, your hammer will not function properly and since you confirm the problem as random, that even cements the problem further. I would follow up with Sig with a phone call and ask them if that was in fact the problem. Hopefully they will disclose what the problem was and you can share that with us. By the way, what size did you purchase? Was it the full size per chance? I know the Subcompacts have all of the new upgrades, and the rest of the line does as of Dec 2010, but if you purchased a Fullsize that was built say in Apr 2009, you may have some of the left over problem spots. It all depends on the stock your shop had. If you by chance know the serial number, you can go to Sig’s web page and register the gun. It will tell you when it was built when you fill in the serial number spot. Would be another interesting possible clue….
I’m sorry you had such trouble, but when it comes back, it will be perfect.. Sig’s CS is pretty Top Notch! Please keep us advised….
Gunny
I purchased a compact .40 250 today brand new from a local shop that has a good rep. After reading these reviews I’m starting to feel like i may have purchased a lemon. I bought the p250 to replace my ruger p95, seems like I should hold onto that now. What angers me the most is that I asked the guy if it was a reliable gun and he said yes. Seems pretty well known now that it is not. Anyway I can check my serial # online to see when it was manufactured?
Gunny,
Yes there was a range officer there and he couldnt understand the problem. I did properly clean and lube the gun before use as i always do. I did not take out the modular housing or dissamble any more than a normal field strip. The 50 shots i got off were all at random and not in sucession.
I called sig and i sent them my gun today. I will get that gun or upgrade if they let me in about 2weeks. I will post my results on how sig handles the situation and the gun. Hopefully mine comes back working time will tell.
Update: Well I just purchased 3 Compact Mags, 3 Compact Mag Adapters, 3 Subcompact Mag Adapters and 1 Compact Grip Module that I have modified down to fit my Subcompact FCU. I finally have access to more holsters (Thanks to the Compact Grip Module) and a Picatinny Rail!
“TANGLE”, you’re right, I gotta watch out what I wish for, but boy am I one happy camper! Where could one do all of this at the bare bones price I paid! Unbelievable! Also, just got back from the range, had to try out the new mag adapters and modified Grip Module. Put 200 rounds of Corbon DPX (Copper Hollow Points) 140gr 40S&W All worked flawlessly and put my total round count at #2200, without a single hiccup!
Loving this handgun! ~~ Gunny
To “Not A Fan”,
It sounds like your, “TRIGGER BAR SPRING” may have disconnected. Did you clean and lube the gun prior to range time? Did you take out the “Fire Control Assembly”? The spring I am referring to is in my opinion the Achilles Heel. But once you know how it is suppose to function your OK. The problem is, unless you have used this handgun for a while or are very familiar with the internal workings of handguns, this can get you stuck. While at the range, was there a Range Master present who could have Function Checked your handgun? From what you wrote, it seems you were able to fire 50 rounds. Were those fired in succession or randomly during your attempts? When the problem you encounter happens, it is the fluke and not the norm. But sight unseen, it sounds like what I mentioned as possibly the problem.
Suggestions:
1. Bring it back to the shop where you bought it and have them inspect the “Fire Control Assembly” paying attention to the “TRIGGER BAR SPRING”.
2. If you bought it through the internet, contact Sig Sauer at (603) 772-2302 (press #3 for Customer Service). They can walk you through a Function Check and trouble shoot your problem.
Before you totally give up on your new pride and joy, help it to figure out what is in fact the problem. It may be something that you did, or rather did not do, because you were unfamiliar with the internals of this handgun, which is not uncommon…..
Let us know how this works out for you and Good Luck! I think once you find out what the problem is, you will fall back in love….
Gunny
PS: 2000 rounds and counting, not a single hiccup along the way. P250 40S&W Subcompact!
also this gun was purchased yesterday brand new not pre owned. forgot to add that.
I purchased my sig p250 .45 and am verry dissapointed. My sig will not fire. I pull the trigger and the hammer doesnt move. I fired less than 50 rounds with more than 100 attemptes to fire. Very dissapointed this gun is crap. I feel like i bought an expensive paper weight. I tried many diffrent ammo types from hornady, to federal, to remmington. all kinds with the same poor performance. The gun will not shot and never will i put this gun in a holster to defend my own life. I have owned many sigs and am verry dissapointed in this model. The trigger is smooth when it catches the hammer. I am giving plenty of time to RESET the double action trigger. i am lucky if i get one shot off of 10 pulls at the trigger. I will be throwing this away as i dont wanna sell this crap to another person.
Ahhh shoot Bruce I meant to include a link to some pics of how owners themselves have customized their P250s.
http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/430601935/m/1000023442
-Tangle
Hey Bruce,
Thanks for the update and good report.
I thing Veridian makes two small compact lasers for the rails and I think Sig has one too, but it may be a rail mount light I’m remembering.
But the Subcompact models don’t have rails do they?
If not, here’s a trick some owners are doing. They buy a compact grip ($39.95) from http://www.ombexpress.com/c_162/sf_944.aspx?r=1 (free shipping). The frame is not a gun so no FFL hassle and they can ship it right to your doorstep.
They cut the front of the frame back to the length of the subcompact frame and wind up with ‘commander’ look of the 1911. It would be a compact grip with a subcompact slide and barrel. That would give you rails for the laser.
You’d just take the FCU out of the SC frame, put it in the compact frame, install the SC slide and barrel and you’re there!
You will have to have a compact size mag though and you can get that at the same place ($33).
You would have the option of carrying the true compact or the hybrid – kinda of mission specific.
I don’t klnow of any other gun you could do that with for $73. Most frames would cost double or triple that and would have to be transferred via an FFL holder.
-Tangle
I promised I would report on any ammo that I fired through the 250 Sub Compact. Picked up some Federal 180 grain FMJ rounds at Wally World for $14 a box. As with the Winchester rounds the Federals cycled properly and there were no problems at all through 30 rounds fired. Fired one mag as fast as possible without a single problem. They were not as accurate as the Winchesters but still reasonable at 15 yards. Slightly less recoil that the Wins, both very manageable. As with the Wins the front site was best with bottom to top of rear site. This is similar to other Sigs I have fired and placed shots at dead center.
I’m liking this pistol more and more. Only thing I would wish for is the rail to mount a laser sight like on the compact and full size. Anyone have a suggestion for a laser sight that would work well on the sub compact?
Anyone using a lazer sight on the P-Rail for the full size FCU like the Uni-Max or Sig’s CPL-1?
Crimson Trace does not make one for the P250 and just get their standard response…..maybe someday.
LOL. And btw I love this weapon. Feel , trigger, accuracy. All good. To me anyway.
Hey all. Just got bought a p250. Bought the P250 2sum package in 9mm. I shot the p250sc 1st. Ran about 50 rds of cheap ammo thru it. Fired evey time. And was pleastly surprised at the accuracy. Switched the FCU to the full sized and on the 10th rd had a “light strike”. I thought at 1st it was the ammo. I ejected the rd ,finished of the mag then put the unfired rd back in the mag, released the slide pulled the trigger and bang. The ammo was that russian stuff. It would happen at least once per mag. When it would happen I would pull the trigger again and it would fire. But it never happened in the sc module. I took a couple of dif 9′s back to the range and shot the same ammo thru them. Not a single misfire. I have put bought 150 rds thru the sc module and no problems. On the full size I have put 200rds thru it and it has misfired 9 times. But that has been with the cheap ammo. I ran a full mag of factory brass FMJ and the gun worked fine. I guess my fullsize dont like cheap 9mm ammo.
Was wondering if the recoil spring might have something to do with it.
Any ideas?
Hey Gunny – check it out!!!!
http://www.p250sig.com/forum/resource.ashx?a=268
http://www.p250sig.com/forum/resource.ashx?a=269
Compact mag adaptors for the subcompact! Now available, in stock from Sig. You may have some rep claim he doesn’t know what your talking about but they do have them, they are in stock!
I told ya – I told ya!
Arsnman,
Thanks for the kind words and welcome to the p250 ‘club’. I just got back from the range, another flawless 100 rounds that brings my P250 total to 1400 rounds without a single issue.
Thanks Tangle and Gunny! As posted on the other forums; I took it out today for the first time and love it. After the first clip I got use to the target aquisition and pull and double and tripple tapping was a breeze. The 40 SW Fs was very accurate and I’m happy to say can’t wait to put some of the HD ammo through both the 40 and .357 Sig barrels. Love it after 150+ rounds.
BTW, Gunny, it is my understanding that Sig will be offering the mag extensions for the subcompact! Be careful what you wish for
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I don’t know if they will adapt a full size mag to the subcompact; I’d think it’d be to adapt the compact mag to the subcompact. I guess we’ll have to wait and see.
I’be been enjoying the P250 since June of 2010. It is not only a good, reliable pistol, but a joy to wear daily in concealment mode. I’m glad to see more are enjoying this great gun and we are finally putting down the naysayers and finally a FAM observation. Enjoy and Happy Shooting.
I have a P250 compact 9mm. Within 50 rounds I started having extraction problems. I called Sig, they paid for shipping, replaced the hammer, trigger bar, safety lever, and extractor, and shipped in back in 10 days! All at no cost to me.
So, while I didn’t initially qualify as a “newer P250″, I do now, because Sig not only repaired my extraction problem, they completely updated it!
Since then I have put 1000 rounds through it without the first problem of any kind. I find the gun to be superbly accurate and shootable. And BTW, mine is completely stock.
Sig says that as of Dec 2010, all P250s will have the latest updates. However, if you do get one that gives you a problem, Sig will fix it at no cost to the owner. Sig pays for shipping both ways and repair.
I’m seeing more and more positive posts and negative posts are almost non-existent these days except for a few that have always been naysayers and I’m convinced nothing will change them.
And this is interesting, a P250 has been spotted in a FAM’s holster at an airport. The guy that spotted it had a chance to talk to the FAM about the P250 and he had nothing bad to say about it. So it appears the FAM are now carrying the P250.
I recently wanted a P250 full size to go with my P250 compact so I got on some websites, found a p250 FS kit that a guy bought in a 2Sum set. He only wanted the subcompact and so I got the FS ‘kit’, slide, barrel, magazine, grip/frame for $200. And didn’t have to go through a FFL!
The FCU easily came out of the compact and as easily installed in the fs frame. That’s what I’m carrying right now. I now have 400 rounds through it without a single first problem. That’s 1400 rounds on that particular FCU that Sig repaired.
I also bought the three mag extension kit Sig is offering. Three full size mags with three sleeve adaptors for use in the P250 compact. Ordinarily I wouldn’t have been interested in that, but I needed some full size mags any way and this was perfect.
I recently bought two full size .45 magazines for $33.00 each, shipping is free.
Sig now has another offer available a .40 compact with a .357 bbl, and three magazines, $419 at Bud’s. Unfortunately, these things sold like hot cakes, Bud’s sold out, but I suspect they’ll be getting more in – unless that was a one-time special from Sig.
I also ordered, from Sig a full size frame with a small grip for my fs 9mm – $46. BTW, if you register your p250 with Sig, you’ll get a 20% off coupon! I’m not having a problem with the medium grip, but I’m thinking about cutting the muzzle end of the fs grip back to the compact size and I’d have a ‘Commander’ size gun, like the 1911 Commander – a full size grip with a compact barrel.
Because the frame is so inexpensive, a lot of people are experimenting. If they mess the whole thing up, they’re only out $46 and it’s not a gun. Some of the paint jobs look really good. Mostly what I’ve seen is the olive drab color, and their using dura coat I believe.
I have a Sig 229 E2 with SRT, Sig 229 & 226s in both DA/SA and DAKs. I have an M&P which I rarely shoot or carry anymore, and Glocks. But, I’m carrying my P250 fs, and if not my compact. I am very impressed with this gun.
I’ve already shot 2550 9mm rounds this year and counting. Not all through the P250s, but most went through the P250s.
Well doing one’s homework can be so much fun. I’ve read all the negative and positive comments dating back to the first P250 platform and release. Thanks for the comments.
I have an opportunity to get a new full size 40 SW with a .357 Sig barrel and three 14:1 factory clips for $489.00. I like the .357 Sig round for ballistics. I have had many handguns and I’m not worried about carrying a full sized handgun due to my stature. I can conceal one with ease.
I’m not concerned with spent brass ejection and body proximity or trigger travel since that resolves itself with any usage of a different or new weapon. For those who own a newer P250; I would be interested in your comments on its functionality. Your comments would be appreciated since I’m not fond of Glocks and wanted to try a Sig.
A little of my history. I’m a retired Corrections Officer with over 40 years of handgun experience. I have owned/carried/hunted with/target shot numerous handguns of all types and makes extensively. I chose the P250 40 Sub Compact because of Sig’s reputation and because I needed a good dependable home defense weapon that would fit my wife’s hands. I read plenty of forums etc related to this pistol and settled on this blog for what appears to me to be intelligent and experienced comments by Charles. Most of the negative posts seemed to be by the same few people and, to me, appeared to be less than informative or unbiased. So, when Gander Mountain put the P250 40cal on sale for $399 I bought one. Kudos to the staff of the Cicero NY store for dismantling the pistol and thoroughly lubing it before handing it over to me. When I got it home i stripped the pistol down to do the oiling Charles had suggested and found it already done..properly. I had purchased some middle of the road Winchester 180 JHP ammo with the pistol and loaded it up for the first test. At 15 yards the pistol shot small tight groups after a flier, about 3″ off, that I correctly blamed on my getting the hang of the trigger. After firing 30 rounds, some rapid fire, without a single incident, I checked all the brass for firing pin marks. All were near dead center on the primer and equally prominent. This pistol was made in Dec 2010 so it is of very recent manufacture. I plan on testing other brands and bullet sizes soon and I will post the results here. As it stands now I trust the gun to perform if and when it is needed to do so and am impressed with the quality of manufacture and performance.
Dee, your experience with the first release P250 seems really to have had an effect on you. I wonder if you picked up a newer one (or ten) and it shot flawlessly out of the box, would you change your opinon? At least for the current production runs?
I’m picking one up this week, I’ll give a range report when I do.
As some may suggest there are 1 or 2 people posting negative post about the P250, the same can be said for the 1 or 2 people who are trying to keep this thing alive. Life happens to be passion and for someone who may get it forced down their throat so but I can’t support SIG’s P250 concept! Call me silly!
I like the idea of taking $160.00 and upgrading the number of problem areas. But then one thought comes to mind … why take $160.00 and fix the problem areas when you can take that same dollar amount and place it towards a gun that needs no mod’s!
The concept of fixing something thats broken verse picking something that needs no adjustment is a hands down call for me. Save your self the headache and purchase the one that comes out of the box ready for the street.
Then from another guy very knowledgeable in firearms, and BTW he does the work described for $160. But look at what he thinks of the P250 design.
“I find the P250 to be a fantastic weapon. It’s accurate, reliable, and very attractively priced as of late. I picked one up out of sheer curiosity this year and have been enamored with its design ever since. It’s a very simple weapon which may lend itself to fewer inherent problems over the life of the average pistol. With the exception of springs and pins the FCU contains only 4 moving parts. Unlike the Sigpro, spare parts are readily available and the FCU is quite easy to disassemble. There are, IMHO, a couple of oversights in the design that I think Sig would have done differently if given the chance.
First, there is an inordinate amount of pre-travel, or slack, at the beginning of the DAO trigger pull. This is attributable to a design oversight that is easily repaired.
Measured from the relative center of trigger, the factory pre-travel can be as much as .10”. My “fix” reduces this measurement to roughly .020” while still retaining a tactile and discernable “click” to indicate reset. The trigger’s rest point is moved roughly .080” rearward after the process, shortening your length of pull as well by the same value.
The second biggest gripe that I noticed from users was that the stroke is too long. It measures roughly .615” from the factory. I further reduce the stroke to a total of roughly 18% (0.100) down to 0.515. This is at the expense of slightly higher trigger pull, which is then adjusted by some action polishing.
The factory P250 is roughly 6.0 – 6.5 lbs. After completion of the work, you get a smooth, shorter stroke trigger with a pull in the 6.75 – 7.0 lbs. range while retaining factory power springs.
The end result is a trigger system that “wastes no time” so to speak. The absence of pre-travel and the shorter stroke will help to make the P250 a more competitive pistol and more up to par with its P-series older brothers.”
Maybe one follow-up post, which confirms the author is Bruce Gray of GrayGuns”
“I always shot Bianchi until I retired from competition in 2004, and won my division several times over the years. I’ve heard rumours of this $110K business, but nothing substantiated, and that hasn’t entered into my interest in going this year. Rather, I want to stay engaged and relevant with the sport, and frankly, perhaps help SIG Sauer promote an under-rated pistol that most folks don’t think of as particularly competitive.
We’ll see how this goes? So far, so good.
-Bruce”
BTW, another post on the Sigforum presents an entirely different view of the P250. This is in a thread entitled, “Intrinsic Mechanical Accuracy (Metal versus Polymer)”. It is signed as written by Burce Gray himself, but posted by someone else, so I’m not sure who at GrayGuns is the actual author.
However, he is preparing a P250 9mm FS for competition at the Bianchi Cup!!! There’s more here than the P250, but still pertinent, so I’m quoting it all.
“Hi and thanks for asking for my opinion. As it happens, Ive made a sort of study of the phenomena associated with what makes pistols accurate, or not. It’s kind of been a thing with me throughout my long career, and continues to the present time as Roy and I make repeated trips to our 50 yard bench to group-test the P250 I’m setting up for the Bianchi Cup, as I’ll get to in a minute here.
I think Roy hit on one key factor that does seem to make a difference in inherent accuracy potential, namely whether the frame rails front and rear are solidly conjoined in a unitized insert (as in the P-250), separately molded in (as in some other polymer framed guns), or there’s no metal rear rails at all (as in the XD). So, perhaps flexing of the grip frame during initial recoil / movement of the barrel might add to whatever other barrel-time effects might influence mechanical consistency and resulting accuracy. My experience has supported this theory, that grip frame flex can and does impair inherent accuracy potential.
I know the Glock fans (and I am a bit of one myself in all reality) will scream that they shoot Glocks better than anything else and theirs is superbly accurate. I’m sure the first is absolutely true, and the second assertion might be, but probably not by the standards we can apply through objective bench testing. I have shot some Glocks, XD’s and so forth, and have yet to see either pistol consistently produce sub-5″ 50 yard groups in factory trim, and often not a whole lot better than 3.5″ to 4″ when re-fitted or re-barreled. I don’t think bore quality is the issue. I have never personally seen any polymer-framed pistol of any type and degree of fitting that could shoot better than 3″ with any make barrel.
But, I have come to believe that the relatively light weight of polymer pistols, that is, the lower half anyway, contributes to their generally demonstrable inferiority in relative accuracy when fired from human hands, if not their absolute accuracy potential on a purely mechanical level.
As an example, let’s take that P250 Fullsize 9mm. It’s got a long sight radius, and has been fitted about perfectly with no lockup float and minimal side movement of the frame to slide. Such a fit in a conventional P-series should buy us 2.5″ at fifty yards or so. However, the same ammo that groups under 2″ out of a newish X5 9mm is giving us little better than 4″ out of my tweaked-up P250. That’s really great for practical uses but still won’t quite cut it for Bianchi. My personal 1911 is giving me well under 2″ as expected, so at least I know I can still shoot a group! I was getting worried.
I need to get consistent sub-2.5″ groups out of the P250 with good ammo by race day and think we can do it, but that might not be in the cards. Inconsistencies from barrel time effects is a possible culprit: any change in the frame’s relative resistance to recoil generated by the slide assembly is magnified by the light weight and flex of the system. The P250′s receiver is a clever gage that clips into the plastic grip; the cage is rigid, but but it still has some slight play within the grip even still. However, I think the P250 in particular offers some advantages over, or rather lacks the disadvantages of, most other polymer framed pistols. That receiver cage is at least rigid unto itself, and that must be a good thing.
More likely in this case, though by no means bad, my particular P250′s factory barrel isn’t quite as accurate as I wish it was for my extreme purposes. It happens, which is why we’ll test others.
So, in any event, I do believe quality all-metal pistols (I.E. P220) offer an edge in rigidity and inherent absolute accuracy potential over comparable (I.E. G-21) polymer-framed guns. Does that edge necessarily equate to higher qualification scores? I frankly doubt that the difference in inherent accuracy made as much difference as their relative shoot-ability in your hands, to be honest. It seems you shoot the P220 well, and that’s what really counts to you.
-Bruce”
Truer words could not be said. Funny thing, all of the negatve comments come from one or two of the same people, over and over and over again! One just needs to adjust their reading to see the deal, but then that is what blogs are for, the good and bad for anyone who wants to write it.
I wish the new mag extensions were also for the subcompacts, but alas they are only for the compacts. I don’t understand that as they are made almost identical, but the small print on the bottom says it is for the compacts only. Maybe I’ll give them a call tomorrow and find out what the deal is. If they state anything other then what is stated in the small print, I will report back here and advise accordingly.
They printed on mine.
Well, my pics didn’t post, but I think you can see the pics by copying and pasteing the links below into your browser:
Pic of the mag and adaptor offer:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p286/jeepaholic_23/6727ed80.jpg
Slow fire target:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5172/5435234118_80e49a2258.jpg
Faster fire:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5172/5435234118_80e49a2258.jpg
It is a great service to post here including and especially the negative stories but it is starting to seem like some have dedicated their lives to trashing this gun. Manufacturers usually improve their products as it is not good business to build a reputation of unreliability and to lose money by shipping lots of products back for service. It is a young product and clearly not set in stone as according to many posters, they ve been making subtle but effective changes to the platform. Happy shooting!
P250 owners, Sig has just introduced this magazine deal:
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Three mags and three extension adaptors for $120. That’s $40 per mag with the adaptor. It only increases the round count by two, but then I know a lot of people, including myself that paid more than that per mag for Mecgar 17 round mags to gain two rounds over the stock Sig P226 mags. But if you were thinking about buying some mags for either your full size or compact, this would be a good deal.
And don’t forget if you register your P250 with Sig, you’ll get a coupon for 20% off on any Sig accessory!
The bad news is, Sig has raised the price on ‘kits’ from $249 to $285. Apparently the demand for them is driving up the price.
SA offers similar mag adaptors for their mid-size gun but I think you gain more than two rounds.
I got my P250 back from Sig not long, was only gone 10 days, and the thing runs like a top. I’ve put 750 rounds through it without a problem of any kind!
I took it to the range again yesterday and did some slow fire and some bit faster. Here are the results (hope the pics post). The first target is slow fire, not real slow, just not rushed. It’s 50 shots of NATO 9mm. Ten rounds at 3, 5, 7, 10, and 15 yards at an indoor range.
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The second is much faster. Same round count, same ranges. At the 10 and 15 yard ranges, I was about 1.5 seconds per shot, some were a little faster and at the closer ranges I was shooting, of course, faster.
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Tangle,
I was just reading one of your other post on sigfourm.com and one of the responses that I thought was great.
This info is from the GAO report on the ATF test:
The ATF live fire test involved 20 ATF agents of varying size experience and handedness. Each of the 20 shooters fired 200 rds through each of the six types of tested gun ( two P250, two S&W M&P, a Glock 22 and a Glock 23), so that means that in total 8000 rds were fired through the P250s, and the same amount through each of the other two brands.
The P250 had 58 stoppages out of 8000 rds, 45 of those shooter-induced and 13 gun-induced. Even if you forget the shooter-induced stoppage rate (one out of every 150 rds or so) there are still the nagging 13 gun-induced stoppages with the P250. The Glock had seven shooter-induced stoppages and the S&W had 16, and neither Glock nor S&W had any gun-induced stoppages.
In the ATF test the P250 simply had more stoppages, both shooter-induced and gun-induced, than the other brands. The P250 had almost three times as many shooter-induced stoppages as the S&W, and had more than six times as many as the Glock. The P250 had 13 gun-induced stoppages; neither Glock nor S&W had any.
There is already a link in a post in this thread to the GAO report.
Do you have any objective evidence that “politics” was the reason that the ATF chose to reject the P250? If so I’m sure everyone here would love to see it.
Based on the four tests and/or fieldings of the P250 to LE agencies that I know of, namely the Dutch police , Hong Kong Police, US Federal Air Marshal Service, and ATF, there seems to be a pattern emerging IMO:
P250s built by SIG Sauer GmbH in Germany can win contracts when they can get into the test (examples are the Dutch and Hong Kong police).
On the other hand, P250s built by SIG Sauer USA either can’t get tested, or when they do get tested they either get rejected (ATF), or if they win a contract, they field guns that the contracting agency refuses to accept (FAMS).
Please tell me where I’m wrong. I want to like the P250. I think that its concept is a superb one, for lots of folks. This includes people with small hands, people who are concerned with safety aspects of striker-fired guns lacking a manual safety, people on a budget who want a SIG, people who live in places where their handgun purchases are legally restricted, etc, etc. My wife was interested in a Compact 9mm for her, so we shot one. We were dismayed by the muzzle flip and the stoppages we experienced. I keep hoping that SIG fixes all the issues and that US LE agencies start fielding them by the ruckload, but I’m not seeing it, at least not yet.
If people want to like the P250 and choose to buy it that’s their prerogative. But to claim that that the P250, at least the US-made one, does not have significant issues is simply to ignore the available evidence.
http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/430601935/m/544100549/p/143
@ Tangle
What are you talking about? “Sig will make the gun right, just like they did with mine and the FAMs P250s.” Did you miss the part where I said there is not a single P250 in the agency flying to date. Guys who are looking for insight don’t need to be given wrong information. Let the reader read thoughts and make up their own mind. When stating facts that’s diff.. Don’t throw statements out there that are simply NOT-TRUE!
FYI
SIG has yet to FIX the FAM’S P250′s! To be honest 99% of Firearm Instructor Training Program (FITP) instructors are anti-P250! I know if it comes its only b/c its a GOV bailout for a faulty design and a company that is gotten into the polymer game to late!
I bought a P250 two weeks ago…
Only misfires out of a thousand rounds + fired in those two weeks was due to large amounts of lead exposed on some semi jackeded HP’s… FMJ HP’s work perfect….
I have shot winchester white box FMJ and many handloads…
Only once was there a need to pull the trigger twice to get it to fire…. and I like that option!!!!
My P250 is in .45 acp……
I love the pistol… I also own a Star PD .45 and a Colt 1911 in .45 and a Ruger P90 in .45…
I bought the P250 because I can shoot it well with my left hand… I’m a righty but want to be able to shoot with both hands…..
Thats my 2 c worth……
BTW… As a westerner.. I was born with a gun in my hand…. It seems to me that most people east of the rockies shoot pistols like a girl…. probably why they get malfs……
It’s not going to stop having failures. This is not a break-in problem, it is a parts problem. My P250 compact did the very same thing. I contacted Sig, they emailed me a UPS overnight shipping label, which means UPS can pick the gun up from my house.
They updated the gun, returned it to my house, with a list of parts replaced. It took 10 days altogether. The thing runs like a clock! No more failures at all of any kind.
Some P250s got out of the factory with out of spec parts and it is the parts causing the problems. Sig will make the gun right, just like they did with mine and the FAMs P250s.
This type of thing is showing up less and less as the manufacturing processes are updated.
I bought a new P250 .40cal on 1/29/11. The next day i brought it to a range and the gun jammed at least 5 times in only approx. 120 rounds. It jammed on the load 4 times, and while ejecting the spent casing 1 time. I was using 3 different types of ammo, and they all jammed. I expected much more from a Sig. 5 jams for only 120 rounds is far more than reasonable. My friend has a Glock 22 .40cal, and he said it has jammed once in about 900 rounds since new. I have since taken it apart, cleaned it very well, and applyed much gun oil. I plan to go through another 200 rounds very soon, and if it jams more than once i will be selling this gun.
@ Mikesguns86…
Save yourself the time/energy and stay away from this firearm… Gunny has half the info as stated ** As a special note, in case you were not aware, “The Sig Sauer company announced via press release that it had signed a multimillion dollar contract to equip the Air Marshals with its .357 SIG caliber P250 Compact Pistol (circa Dec 2009). This has been ammended, as they now carry the SubCompact as well, allowing the Air Marshal’s the option of carry.”
There is not one P250 in any size frame in the field!
To answer one of your questions Sig has made the 229 and 226 which is a very good gun while still not my 1st choice, I have to say it performs. So the Navy and the Army CID have used it for a long time, as for the FED’s the Secret Service has been in bed with SIG for EVER! Again using the 229 platform! Today the P250 is still having problems, as noted in the BATF’s testing in which it was thrown out! And as admitted by the rep’s out at the 2011 shot show from SIG!
Within weeks of FAMS in the field getting the “test” guns…. 90% were not working! Run and get away from this system, save yourself and get a GLOCK it works!
If you get this gun in 9mm then you might be ok as this is what the gun was made for, if you want a 45 then heed my warning and go with anything else! Good luck!
Mikesguns86 – I have all 4 calibers (9mm, .40S&W, .357SIG and .45ACP) in the P250 Compact. Great guns. I keep the .45 bedside with Hornady Critical Defense for HD. I have fired many of the target loads (WWB, Remington, Federal, etc) without problem. I think the P250 is a good choice. Spend some time getting used to the DAO trigger.
Gunny,
thanks for the info. i will keep an eye out for the sub compact model but im really looking for a full sized one.
Mikesguns86,
I have the P250 SubCompact in 40 S&W & 45ACP. I used the one platform for both calibers and I’m very happy. I have put over 1500 rounds of 40S&W and about 500 45ACP down the barrel, all of which worked without a hiccup! No problems what so ever and could not be happier. Of course I am using quality ammo and no reloads. The ammo I use is; Hornady “Custom” and “Critical Defense”. I have tried others, but this ammo works the best for me, especially the “Critical Defense” (http://www.hornady.com/ammunition/handgun). Since the SubCompact model was released in quantity to the public back in Mar-Apr 2010 time frame, they have missed the plights of the early released models and therefore, all of the inherient issues were corrected prior to release. I believe if you research it, you’ll find 2 of the major problems with the P250 were in using “plastic” components in the fire control assembly and the recoil spring guide. The P250 SubCompact has neither of these problems and all components, with the exception of the pistol grip, are metal or a metal subcomponent. I, like you, have wanted a Sig Sauer for many years, but just could not afford the price tag. When the P250 was released I knew it was the pistol I was seeking, but the SubCompact was not initially available, so I waited. Well the wait was well worth it. I can only attest to what I have shot, so I can say with full confidence that the P250 SubCompact is a pistol worthy of carry and use!
** As a special note, in case you were not aware, “The Sig Sauer company announced via press release that it had signed a multimillion dollar contract to equip the Air Marshals with its .357 SIG caliber P250 Compact Pistol (circa Dec 2009). This has been ammended, as they now carry the SubCompact as well, allowing the Air Marshal’s the option of carry.
*** If you have looked for a good leather holster for the SubCompact, you probably found it is very hard to find one. Well I am happy to say that DeSantis is now carrying Leather Holsters in several styles. I just received my order of the F.F.D.O. w/ Lock Hole. Mine was lined and I ordered the lock as well. This is without a doubt one of the finest holsters I have ever owned! I ONLY buy Leather holsters if I know for certain that the pistol in which it will carry will be with me for a long time. Suffice to say, enough said! Here is the link if your interested:
http://www.desantisholster.com/store/WHATS-NEW/p250-sub-compact
PS: I do not have any connection with DeSantis, other then a customer buying their products……
The Question to ask dee is when was the FAM testing? If it was with early model p250s then i can understand the issues, but if they did it recently then problems with p250s have not been solved. Im a avid gun owner and looking to buy a p250 .45. i am look for input on this one because i have a ruger p345 and im not looking to buy lots of different ammo. I have heard good things about sig sauer but they are pricey on most of their pistols. P250 is cheaper but made by sig so if figure its worth a shot. I believe in sig fixing their problems with this pistol for the most part that they are relied upon by lots of federal agencies with there other pistols. If they could not be trusted to fix the problem why would they have so many contracts with u.s. army or the navy seals. If anyone out their has any input on the .45 please post. i dont want to spend a $1000 on a p220.
‘Big boys on this thread , sigs getting there act together with the P-250, most of the problems came from early production full size models. ” Ok I think you guys are seriously feeding off each other here. 90 % of the test guns broke! Production has stopped! The p250 is to little to late for the polymer game! As I was out at the 11 shot show where Sig was talking about the 290… What happened to the 250? The gun of the future has lost all its hype! The Fams are trying to distance themselves from this system…. Not one is in the field!
P250 Full Size and Subcompact in .40
No failures to date in either configuration. 500 plus rounds in both. All types of ammo.
Traded a Glock 21 in 40 a P250 compact in 45 the other week.
Shoots great every time. Hits where I aim
What more could a person want?
RC
Live in NY. Need 10 rd mags for full size .40
Thanks
Thanks Gunny. I will keep you posted on how this thing fires.
Why do you want ten round mags? Are you living in California? If you are, I’m sorry for that condition, but there is a solution that I will entertain at another time. If you need ten tounders for competition, IE IDPA, then just load to ten. There you go problem solved. Your welcome.
Looking for 10rd mags. I have a full size P250 in .40
Need 10rd mags
Dbro,
I don’t know which model you have, but most of the problems were with early releases and with the full size version. There are 3 versions; full, compact and subcompact all of which offer a variety of chambers. I have the Subcompact version and have fired over 1500 rounds without a hiccup. You’ll find people who Love it (as I do), and people who hate it, as with any handgun. You may want to call Sig Sauer and give them the serial number, asking if there are any known issues with your particular handgun. This will be of great benefit and a worthy call. If I were you, I would take it to the range, maybe with your friend, and put some rounds down range. This is the only way you’ll be able to tell if the handgun fits you and you are comfortable with it. In one aspect your pretty lucky, as a 1st time gun owner, you don’t yet have a trigger style deep rooted in your brain, unlike many of us. The P250 is a “Double Action Only”