Comments on: Sig 556 rifle review http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:05:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Larry http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/comment-page-1/#comment-86579 Larry Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:30:51 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/#comment-86579 I got cut off before, sorry. Sig informed me that the 556 is designed for 62 grain NATO ammo, not .223 or 55 gr. 5.56. They also said that the brass will get beat up during extraction. They said not to use reloads and that the extracted brass cannot be reloaded after being shot from the 556. My Sig has a pattern 3 times larger than my old AR15. It is heavier and the trigger is heavier. It may be a great combat weapon, but for my money, I will not buy another one. I have a Rock River, a Panther and a 30 year old Colt AR15 that will shoot circles around it. Style over substance seems to be Sig's program. I got cut off before, sorry. Sig informed me that the 556 is designed for 62 grain NATO ammo, not .223 or 55 gr. 5.56. They also said that the brass will get beat up during extraction. They said not to use reloads and that the extracted brass cannot be reloaded after being shot from the 556. My Sig has a pattern 3 times larger than my old AR15. It is heavier and the trigger is heavier. It may be a great combat weapon, but for my money, I will not buy another one. I have a Rock River, a Panther and a 30 year old Colt AR15 that will shoot circles around it. Style over substance seems to be Sig’s program.

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]]> By: Larry http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/comment-page-1/#comment-86575 Larry Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:23:56 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/#comment-86575 I have 3 Sig pistols and that is why I bought a Sig 556 Swat. Problems, yes. 1. Jams - answer from Sig: Did you clean your weapon? Yes, I answer. What ammo are you shooting? 5.56 I answer. How many grains? 55, I say. Well, I have 3 Sig pistols and that is why I bought a Sig 556 Swat. Problems, yes.
1. Jams – answer from Sig: Did you clean your weapon? Yes, I answer. What ammo are you shooting? 5.56 I answer. How many grains? 55, I say. Well,

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]]> By: TONY http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/comment-page-1/#comment-81901 TONY Fri, 30 Dec 2011 03:48:10 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/#comment-81901 GET A COLT.MY 6940 IS THE BEST SHOOTING AR TYPE I'VE EVER OWNED AND I'VE HAD ROCK RIVER, STAG,BUSHMASTER,DPMS AND AN EAGLE ARMS.WITH THE REAR SIGHT AT MECHANICAL ZERO IS DEAD ON AND GROUPS 3-4 AT 200 METERS.ALOT OF MFG. ARE TRYING TO GET A PIECE OF THE AR MARKET BY INTRODUCING AN INFERIOR RIFLE FOR LESS $.I DON'T THINK SIG EVEN CHROME LINES THERE BARRELS.NO MALFUNCTION WITH THE 6940 WITH SS109 OR BLACK HILLS 62 GR.HP MATCH.I ALSO HAVE BOUGHT A 6920 AFTER BEING SO PLEASED WITH THE 6940 AND IT HAS ONLY BEEN SHOT ONCE AND IT IS DEAD ON WITH THE REAR SIGHT AT MECHANICAL ZERO.COLT KNOWS HOW TO BUILD THEM. GET A COLT.MY 6940 IS THE BEST SHOOTING AR TYPE I’VE EVER OWNED AND I’VE HAD ROCK RIVER, STAG,BUSHMASTER,DPMS AND AN EAGLE ARMS.WITH THE REAR SIGHT AT MECHANICAL ZERO IS DEAD ON AND GROUPS 3-4 AT 200 METERS.ALOT OF MFG. ARE TRYING TO GET A PIECE OF THE AR MARKET BY INTRODUCING AN INFERIOR RIFLE FOR LESS $.I DON’T THINK SIG EVEN CHROME LINES THERE BARRELS.NO MALFUNCTION WITH THE 6940 WITH SS109 OR BLACK HILLS 62 GR.HP MATCH.I ALSO HAVE BOUGHT A 6920 AFTER BEING SO PLEASED WITH THE 6940 AND IT HAS ONLY BEEN SHOT ONCE AND IT IS DEAD ON WITH THE REAR SIGHT AT MECHANICAL ZERO.COLT KNOWS HOW TO BUILD THEM.

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]]> By: Bama Fan http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/comment-page-1/#comment-71345 Bama Fan Mon, 12 Sep 2011 22:44:23 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/#comment-71345 Guy’s, I was having the same problem with my Sig 556, could not get it to shoot consistence groups and it would not recycle either, about every 3rd round would hang up. I swapped rounds to 5.56 Nato BVAC 75 Grain rounds. That seemed to solved my problem. Recycles fine now and shoots 1-2 inch groups at 100 yards. The Ammo makes a lot of difference in these rifles. I tried all the major brands before I found one that works. Good luck finding an ammo that your Sig likes. Guy’s,

I was having the same problem with my Sig 556, could not get it to shoot consistence groups and it would not recycle either, about every 3rd round would hang up. I swapped rounds to 5.56 Nato BVAC 75 Grain rounds. That seemed to solved my problem. Recycles fine now and shoots 1-2 inch groups at 100 yards.
The Ammo makes a lot of difference in these rifles. I tried all the major brands before I found one that works. Good luck finding an ammo that your Sig likes.

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]]> By: juan http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/comment-page-1/#comment-55017 juan Wed, 09 Feb 2011 18:03:53 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/#comment-55017 yes, it happens to all of them. yes, it happens to all of them.

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]]> By: mike http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/comment-page-1/#comment-53651 mike Mon, 24 Jan 2011 02:25:13 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/#comment-53651 got a sig 556 ,is it common for the spent cases to get dented when they are ejected got a sig 556 ,is it common for the spent cases to get dented when they are ejected

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]]> By: Tharsh http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/comment-page-1/#comment-53643 Tharsh Mon, 24 Jan 2011 00:15:42 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/#comment-53643 I picked one up Friday. put an Eotech on it and headed to the range. target started at 20 mtrs. First shot was 3 inches low and 1/2 inch left of center. I shot a follow up to baseline the first and hit the same hole. Walked the target out to 30 mtrs, cranked the Eotech four clicks. fired on dead centered still low. Cranked up 16 clicks and first shot was bullseye, fired three more all in the black at about one inch spread. I was using sandbags and lake city 855. I shot 100 rounds. Had a blast. Second shot follow ups are really easy. I took the target out to 50 yds and hammered it. The trigger alone makes a huge difference. I think the weight helps even out recoil of which there isn't much. For grins I disassembled the weapon to learn how and to check it out. Chamber really clean, gas tube took a little solvent and a few patches, wiped up everything, greased the bolt/hammer section and put it back together. I need the 3x magnifier to get out past 50mtrs. My eyes aren't what they used to be. Overall this is a fine weapon. i am keeping my colts and armalites but until I win the lotto and can afford a LaRue the Sig is gonna be my play toy and primary home defense weapon. I picked one up Friday. put an Eotech on it and headed to the range. target started at 20 mtrs. First shot was 3 inches low and 1/2 inch left of center. I shot a follow up to baseline the first and hit the same hole. Walked the target out to 30 mtrs, cranked the Eotech four clicks. fired on dead centered still low. Cranked up 16 clicks and first shot was bullseye, fired three more all in the black at about one inch spread. I was using sandbags and lake city 855. I shot 100 rounds. Had a blast. Second shot follow ups are really easy. I took the target out to 50 yds and hammered it. The trigger alone makes a huge difference. I think the weight helps even out recoil of which there isn’t much. For grins I disassembled the weapon to learn how and to check it out. Chamber really clean, gas tube took a little solvent and a few patches, wiped up everything, greased the bolt/hammer section and put it back together. I need the 3x magnifier to get out past 50mtrs. My eyes aren’t what they used to be. Overall this is a fine weapon. i am keeping my colts and armalites but until I win the lotto and can afford a LaRue the Sig is gonna be my play toy and primary home defense weapon.

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]]> By: Bill http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/comment-page-1/#comment-47129 Bill Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:03:59 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/#comment-47129 Gentlemen, I have been watching this thread. I too have a zeroing problem with my SIG 556 ER purchased in late 2008. Rifle sat in closet until Sig came out with new diopter sights. Took it to the range in June '10. It will not zero. Elevation is ok but front sight is all the way left and rear sight is all the way right and still the groups are 3" to the left - @ 25meters(82feet). There is no more windage adjustment remaining in the sights. Sights were installed correctly. I don't believe its the ammo, it is a rifle problem. Used 55gr Lake City, Federal, PMC and for comparison PPU(in a Wolf labeled white box). Grouping of shots is fine with any of the above ammo, but the groups themselves are off to the left in my case. Using heavier weight bullets may improve group "tightness" but I have serious doubts that my (and others) zeroing issues will be solved by changing bullet weights. I believe this is one of the SIG556 "lemons" that came out of a certain production batch. Other owners are apparently experiencing the same issues. Gentlemen,
I have been watching this thread. I too have a zeroing problem with my SIG 556 ER purchased in late 2008. Rifle sat in closet until Sig came out with new diopter sights. Took it to the range in June ’10. It will not zero. Elevation is ok but front sight is all the way left and rear sight is all the way right and still the groups are 3″ to the left – @ 25meters(82feet). There is no more windage adjustment remaining in the sights. Sights were installed correctly. I don’t believe its the ammo, it is a rifle problem. Used 55gr Lake City, Federal, PMC and for comparison PPU(in a Wolf labeled white box). Grouping of shots is fine with any of the above ammo, but the groups themselves are off to the left in my case. Using heavier weight bullets may improve group “tightness” but I have serious doubts that my (and others) zeroing issues will be solved by changing bullet weights. I believe this is one of the SIG556 “lemons” that came out of a certain production batch. Other owners are apparently experiencing the same issues.

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]]> By: Robert http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/comment-page-1/#comment-46301 Robert Fri, 05 Nov 2010 03:49:36 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/#comment-46301 I went out tested a bunch of different ammo after my last posting. I fired 55g, 62g, 69g out of my Sig556. The 69g shoots awesome, i was doing .5 MOA with my 4x Leupold AR on top. The big surprise is that I was having no problems hitting a steel plate at 300m even with the 55g. The SS109 62g shot just fine too. I would still try your zero with 62g+ and if it still doesn't work for you .......well...I think it might the shooter??? Also, try making your zero at 25m, I think you will like you bullet path much better. I went out tested a bunch of different ammo after my last posting. I fired 55g, 62g, 69g out of my Sig556. The 69g shoots awesome, i was doing .5 MOA with my 4x Leupold AR on top. The big surprise is that I was having no problems hitting a steel plate at 300m even with the 55g. The SS109 62g shot just fine too. I would still try your zero with 62g+ and if it still doesn’t work for you …….well…I think it might the shooter??? Also, try making your zero at 25m, I think you will like you bullet path much better.

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]]> By: Peter http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/comment-page-1/#comment-45104 Peter Thu, 21 Oct 2010 13:40:01 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/#comment-45104 I have to agree with Robert here - shooting with 55gr rounds sends the rounds everywhere 62gr or better and you start seeing *much* tighter groupings on your shots. Performance with 77gr ammo is unbelievably superb - far tighter groupings than my AR at over 200yds. This holds true for pretty much any rifle I've ever shot with a 1:7 twist - they are designed specifically for stabilizing 70gr or heavier rounds. I have to agree with Robert here – shooting with 55gr rounds sends the rounds everywhere 62gr or better and you start seeing *much* tighter groupings on your shots. Performance with 77gr ammo is unbelievably superb – far tighter groupings than my AR at over 200yds.

This holds true for pretty much any rifle I’ve ever shot with a 1:7 twist – they are designed specifically for stabilizing 70gr or heavier rounds.

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]]> By: Robert http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/comment-page-1/#comment-43906 Robert Fri, 01 Oct 2010 03:43:20 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/#comment-43906 I would almost bet the zero problem is due to people using 55gr bullets. The 1:7 twist of the SIG is gonna send those things flying all over the place. Go with a heavier bullet and you should marked improvement. Good luck! I would almost bet the zero problem is due to people using 55gr bullets. The 1:7 twist of the SIG is gonna send those things flying all over the place. Go with a heavier bullet and you should marked improvement. Good luck!

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]]> By: barehander54 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/comment-page-1/#comment-37762 barehander54 Tue, 06 Jul 2010 01:07:56 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/#comment-37762 Hello sig owners I just bought a sig 556 classic rifle when i went a look i couldn't decide on what I wanted I've had a couple of buddy talk about the Sig556 so I ended up buying one thought it was a little bit pricey thought that maybe that it was a better rifle I always hear pros and cons about rifles so it made it really hard to pick I did like the way it looked, got the diopter rear sights the gun dealer kinda persuade me a little bit now seeing these blogs after buying one I'm not so sure if I made a right decision now I shot about 300 rounds since I got it bout 4 days ago I know i'm having a really hard time zeroing the rifle with iron sights at 50 yards its want to shoot low right seems like no matter how many times I move it still hits the same spot what the hell, today I got it as close to the center as i could everything that I've been reading is that people are not happy with there 556 I've never had a Ar so I can't tell which is better dose everybody have problems with there Sig. I thought Sig made good firearms now I'm wondering if I should sell it and get a bushmaster or something. What good is a rifle if it doesn't hold up when you need it the most If there's anyone with 556 classic e-mail me tell me what you think are all there rifles junk or is it something that maybe your use to a different style weapon also want to know if it will shoot any Ar Mags the factory ones are way to expensive Hello sig owners

I just bought a sig 556 classic rifle when i went a look i couldn’t decide on what I wanted I’ve had a couple of buddy talk about the Sig556 so I ended up buying one thought it was a little bit pricey thought that maybe that it was a better rifle I always hear pros and cons about rifles so it made it really hard to pick I did like the way it looked, got the diopter rear sights the gun dealer kinda persuade me a little bit now seeing these blogs after buying one I’m not so sure if I made a right decision now I shot about 300 rounds since I got it bout 4 days ago I know i’m having a really hard time zeroing the rifle with iron sights at 50 yards its want to shoot low right seems like no matter how many times I move it still hits the same spot what the hell, today I got it as close to the center as i could everything that I’ve been reading is that people are not happy with there 556 I’ve never had a Ar so I can’t tell which is better dose everybody have problems with there Sig. I thought Sig made good firearms now I’m wondering if I should sell it and get a bushmaster or something. What good is a rifle if it doesn’t hold up when you need it the most If there’s anyone with 556 classic e-mail me tell me what you think are all there rifles junk or is it something that maybe your use to a different style weapon also want to know if it will shoot any Ar Mags the factory ones are way to expensive

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]]> By: Taz http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/comment-page-1/#comment-26751 Taz Tue, 16 Feb 2010 23:37:41 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/#comment-26751 I ran Basic SWAT schools in 2008 & 2009 and some of the students from other agencies brought Sig 556 rifles. I had no previous experience with them but they looked and felt great and being made by Sig I figured they would perform well. Sadly they did not. In both classes we put students through 1,000 rounds of ammo in one day and both Sig 556 rifles broke after only 500 or so rounds. I don't recall the exact problem but it was the same part in the bolt carrier group or buffer spring system that broke in both rifles. I would not buy one. I ran Basic SWAT schools in 2008 & 2009 and some of the students from other agencies brought Sig 556 rifles. I had no previous experience with them but they looked and felt great and being made by Sig I figured they would perform well. Sadly they did not. In both classes we put students through 1,000 rounds of ammo in one day and both Sig 556 rifles broke after only 500 or so rounds. I don’t recall the exact problem but it was the same part in the bolt carrier group or buffer spring system that broke in both rifles. I would not buy one.

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]]> By: bird223 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/comment-page-1/#comment-26569 bird223 Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:26:34 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/#comment-26569 Are you guys looking at your ammo. 1:7 twist is a 70 gr and higher bullet. Shooting 55gr bullets, good luck. My friend has the Sig 556 and that rifle is dead on and a lot of fun at all ranges from 50 yards to 200. but he's using 62 gr bullets, it sucks with anything less. Are you guys looking at your ammo. 1:7 twist is a 70 gr and higher bullet. Shooting 55gr bullets, good luck. My friend has the Sig 556 and that rifle is dead on and a lot of fun at all ranges from 50 yards to 200. but he’s using 62 gr bullets, it sucks with anything less.

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]]> By: Heath http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/comment-page-1/#comment-24245 Heath Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:37:49 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/#comment-24245 Folks, Sig is offering a rebate of $300 on the Sig556. Folks, Sig is offering a rebate of $300 on the Sig556.

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]]> By: Dave http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/comment-page-1/#comment-22967 Dave Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:44:43 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/#comment-22967 I have had a 556 holo for about a year. I think the stock holo sight is worthless. I sent in the original unit because it would not stay on target. The second one lasted longer but is now having the same issues. I have noticed Sig no longer shows the holo unit on it's website. They are showing a red dot. I have had a 556 holo for about a year. I think the stock holo sight is worthless. I sent in the original unit because it would not stay on target. The second one lasted longer but is now having the same issues. I have noticed Sig no longer shows the holo unit on it’s website. They are showing a red dot.

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]]> By: Uber Grease http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/comment-page-1/#comment-15056 Uber Grease Fri, 25 Sep 2009 03:06:26 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/#comment-15056 Well, thanks for the input on from the owners. I was really interested in these but I think Al the negatives I'm hearing now that I'm actually doing the research will point me in another direction. Disappointed but I will get over it. Well, thanks for the input on from the owners. I was really interested in these but I think Al the negatives I’m hearing now that I’m actually doing the research will point me in another direction. Disappointed but I will get over it.

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]]> By: SigdobetterQC http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/comment-page-1/#comment-8908 SigdobetterQC Wed, 22 Apr 2009 06:54:56 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/#comment-8908 I'm very disappointed with Sig Sauer. I was told rifle was in stock, paid with plastic and it took 3 months for my order to arrive. Funny thing is about 5 of us ordered at the same time and they got theirs 2 months before me. And yes this was before the elections. Finally, it (rifle) was sent to them to get it fix. One of the issues like everyone else is zeroing!!! It's been 1 month and haven't received any word on the status. I’m very disappointed with Sig Sauer. I was told rifle was in stock, paid with plastic and it took 3 months for my order to arrive. Funny thing is about 5 of us ordered at the same time and they got theirs 2 months before me. And yes this was before the elections. Finally, it (rifle) was sent to them to get it fix. One of the issues like everyone else is zeroing!!! It’s been 1 month and haven’t received any word on the status.

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]]> By: Zeus http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/comment-page-1/#comment-5968 Zeus Tue, 03 Feb 2009 01:29:18 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/#comment-5968 I find it very strange your having such problems zeroing your 556. At 100 yards with a basic Bushnell Trophy red dot I shot 1 inch groups with 55gr Winchester Q3131. When I switched to Privi Partizan 75gr Match ammo I shot even tighter groups like 3 shots that a quarter could cover. The 1 in 7" twist barrel shoots the heavier bullets best. I tested all the ammo off a bipod and bench setup with a fwd vertical grip attachment as well. I did however have to adjust zero quite a few inches down from the 55gr zero for the 75gr to be on target. I find it very strange your having such problems zeroing your 556. At 100 yards with a basic Bushnell Trophy red dot I shot 1 inch groups with 55gr Winchester Q3131. When I switched to Privi Partizan 75gr Match ammo I shot even tighter groups like 3 shots that a quarter could cover. The 1 in 7″ twist barrel shoots the heavier bullets best. I tested all the ammo off a bipod and bench setup with a fwd vertical grip attachment as well. I did however have to adjust zero quite a few inches down from the 55gr zero for the 75gr to be on target.

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]]> By: tyler http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/comment-page-1/#comment-5798 tyler Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:49:08 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/10/30/sig-556-rifle-review/#comment-5798 yeah my 556 is a little weird also (its actually back at the factory right now) it was shooting nice groups at 100 yards but the were however WAY WAY low. so low infact i ran out of adjustment on every scope i have, trying to get it zeroed. hopefully sig will tell me what the heck was wrong with it when it gets back!! ill keep you posted. ive also heard of a few probelems like this from guys at three gun matches they said it has something to do with the rifling or something!!! yeah my 556 is a little weird also (its actually back at the factory right now) it was shooting nice groups at 100 yards but the were however WAY WAY low. so low infact i ran out of adjustment on every scope i have, trying to get it zeroed. hopefully sig will tell me what the heck was wrong with it when it gets back!! ill keep you posted. ive also heard of a few probelems like this from guys at three gun matches they said it has something to do with the rifling or something!!!

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