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	<title>Comments on: Convert a Glock or 1911 pistol into a carbine</title>
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		<title>By: Vaughan Pederson</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/09/25/convert-a-glock-or-1911-pistol-into-a-carbine/comment-page-1/#comment-80487</link>
		<dc:creator>Vaughan Pederson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 05:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I like the idea, how about a little less ugly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I like the idea, how about a little less ugly?</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 04:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl, the barrel doesn&#039;t tilt. The carbine conversion has a fixed barrel. The only parts of the pistol used are the frame assembly and magazine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl, the barrel doesn&#8217;t tilt. The carbine conversion has a fixed barrel. The only parts of the pistol used are the frame assembly and magazine.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how such a long barrel manages to tilt when fired without stressing the pistol too much...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how such a long barrel manages to tilt when fired without stressing the pistol too much&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 04:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have one of these for my Kimber Classic (1911) and the carbine conversion unit (CCU) makes for a great &quot;plinker.&quot; CCU&#039;s maker (Mech Tech System in Montana) has updated the styling, adding as M4-style options such as collapsible stocks, &quot;iron&quot; sights, and Picatinny rails all along the barrel shrouds.

See their Web site:

http://www.mechtechsys.com/

Which should also help the poster who&#039;s looking for help in breaking down the CCU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have one of these for my Kimber Classic (1911) and the carbine conversion unit (CCU) makes for a great &#8220;plinker.&#8221; CCU&#8217;s maker (Mech Tech System in Montana) has updated the styling, adding as M4-style options such as collapsible stocks, &#8220;iron&#8221; sights, and Picatinny rails all along the barrel shrouds.</p>
<p>See their Web site:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mechtechsys.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mechtechsys.com/</a></p>
<p>Which should also help the poster who&#8217;s looking for help in breaking down the CCU.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/09/25/convert-a-glock-or-1911-pistol-into-a-carbine/#comment-2004#comment-2004&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Steve&lt;/a&gt;:

The best thing would be to contact the manufacturer for a manual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2007/09/25/convert-a-glock-or-1911-pistol-into-a-carbine/#comment-2004#comment-2004" rel="nofollow"> Steve</a>:</p>
<p>The best thing would be to contact the manufacturer for a manual.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have this conversion for a Glock 17. I was given to me after a friend passed away. I do not have any paper work for it but was wondering how you break it down?? Can you help me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have this conversion for a Glock 17. I was given to me after a friend passed away. I do not have any paper work for it but was wondering how you break it down?? Can you help me</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Beamish for that infomation. You are right!

I was not aware pistol to rifle conversions were legal but your explanation makes complete sense.

Apparently under Californian law it is illegal:

&quot;Although the product of itself is legal, the resulting combination with a pistol frame becomes illegal under California law&quot; from http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=80662811.

As far as I know in many other countries it is illegal as pistol are classified differently to rifle in the local laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Beamish for that infomation. You are right!</p>
<p>I was not aware pistol to rifle conversions were legal but your explanation makes complete sense.</p>
<p>Apparently under Californian law it is illegal:</p>
<p>&#8220;Although the product of itself is legal, the resulting combination with a pistol frame becomes illegal under California law&#8221; from <a href="http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=80662811" rel="nofollow">http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=80662811</a>.</p>
<p>As far as I know in many other countries it is illegal as pistol are classified differently to rifle in the local laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Beamish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beamish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You cannot add a shoulder stock to a pistol without registering it as a short-barreled rifle (SBR) and paying the tax.  An SBR is defined as having a barrel of less than 16&quot;.  These &quot;Carbine kits&quot; have 16&quot; barrels with the shoulder stock and so are therefore legal - you are taking a formerly &quot;concealable&quot; pistol and making it into a non-concealable rifle.

Going the other way - converting a rifle into a &quot;pistol&quot; is not permitted without further ATF taxes and approvals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You cannot add a shoulder stock to a pistol without registering it as a short-barreled rifle (SBR) and paying the tax.  An SBR is defined as having a barrel of less than 16&#8243;.  These &#8220;Carbine kits&#8221; have 16&#8243; barrels with the shoulder stock and so are therefore legal &#8211; you are taking a formerly &#8220;concealable&#8221; pistol and making it into a non-concealable rifle.</p>
<p>Going the other way &#8211; converting a rifle into a &#8220;pistol&#8221; is not permitted without further ATF taxes and approvals.</p>
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